pauldyson1uk
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Lewis and Russel and really struggling
You forgotten Bahrain so quicklyHas Leclerc lost every 1v1 duel with Verstappen so far this season? Reliability issues aside, Max always seems to come out on top in these duels.
this is the best post everthey’ve worked out how to deal with the porpoising; toto has been on to race control and demanded that the other teams go slower so they can be competitive again.
New regulation made this certainly more exciting.that was a quite enjoyable sprint race. few will admit though
that was a quite enjoyable sprint race. few will admit though
Has Leclerc lost every 1v1 duel with Verstappen so far this season? Reliability issues aside, Max always seems to come out on top in these duels.
when Max took the lead, they were like an over excited kids in the playground, who had seen the ice cream man coming though the gates.Definitely the best sprint race we've seen. But still not sure it adds what the sky team are desperate for us to believe it adds.
I still don’t understand it quite yet but I did liked it. The Red Bulls had an awesome pace and Checo ended 3 seconds from Leclerc and like 10 ahead of Sainz.when Max took the lead, they were like an over excited kids in the playground, who had seen the ice cream man coming though the gates.
The sprint race for me is a waste of time and money, does not add anything to the weekend for me.
Glad you enjoyed it, that what matters.I still don’t understand it quite yet but I did liked it. The Red Bulls had an awesome pace and Checo ended 3 seconds from Leclerc and like 10 ahead of Sainz.
Rank | Driver | Number | Team | Laps | Time | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Max VerstappenVER | 1 | Red Bull | 21 | 30:39.56730 | 8 |
2 | Charles LeclercLEC | 16 | Ferrari | 21 | 2.975 behind | 7 |
3 | Sergio PerezPER | 11 | Red Bull | 21 | 4.721 behind | 6 |
4 | Carlos Sainz JnrSAI | 55 | Ferrari | 21 | 17.578 behind | 5 |
5 | Lando NorrisNOR | 4 | McLaren | 21 | 24.561 behind | 4 |
6 | Daniel RicciardoRIC | 3 | McLaren | 21 | 27.740 behind | 3 |
7 | Valtteri BottasBOT | 77 | Alfa Romeo | 21 | 28.133 behind | 2 |
8 | Kevin MagnussenMAG | 20 | Haas | 21 | 30.712 behind | 1 |
9 | Fernando AlonsoALO | 14 | Alpine | 21 | 32.278 behind | 0 |
10 | Mick SchumacherMSC | 47 | Haas | 21 | 33.773 behind | 0 |
11 | George RussellRUS | 63 | Mercedes | 21 | 36.284 behind | 0 |
12 | Yuki TsunodaTSU | 22 | AlphaTauri | 21 | 38.298 behind | 0 |
13 | Sebastian VettelVET | 5 | Aston Martin | 21 | 40.177 behind | 0 |
14 | Lewis HamiltonHAM | 44 | Mercedes | 21 | 41.459 behind | 0 |
15 | Lance StrollSTR | 18 | Aston Martin | 21 | 42.910 behind | 0 |
16 | Esteban OconOCO | 31 | Alpine | 21 | 43.517 behind | 0 |
17 | Pierre GaslyGAS | 10 | AlphaTauri | 21 | 43.794 behind | 0 |
18 | Alexander AlbonALB | 23 | Williams | 21 | 48.871 behind | 0 |
19 | Nicholas LatifiLAT | 6 | Williams | 21 | 52.017 behind | 0 |
not classified | Guanyu ZhouZHO | 24 | Alfa Romeo | 0 | did not finish completed | 0 |
Rank | Team | Wins | Points |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Ferrari | 2 | 116 |
2 | Red Bull | 1 | 69 |
3 | Mercedes | 0 | 65 |
4 | McLaren | 0 | 31 |
5 | Alpine | 0 | 22 |
6 | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 15 |
7 | Haas | 0 | 13 |
8 | AlphaTauri | 0 | 10 |
9 | Williams | 0 | 1 |
10 | Aston Martin | 0 | 0 |
Rank | Driver | Team | Wins | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 2 | 78 |
2 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | Ferrari | 0 | 38 |
3 | George Russell | Mercedes | 0 | 37 |
4 | Sergio Perez | Red Bull | 0 | 36 |
5 | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1 | 33 |
6 | Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 0 | 28 |
7 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 0 | 20 |
8 | Esteban Ocon | Alpine | 0 | 20 |
9 | Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 14 |
10 | Kevin Magnussen | Haas | 0 | 13 |
11 | Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | 0 | 11 |
12 | Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | 0 | 6 |
13 | Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauriA | 0 | 4 |
14 | Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 0 | 2 |
15 | Guanyu Zhou | Alfa Romeo | 0 | 1 |
16 | Alexander Albon | Williams | 0 | 1 |
17 | Mick Schumacher | Haas | 0 | 0 |
18 | Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 0 | 0 |
19 | Nico Hulkenberg | Aston Martin | 0 | 0 |
20 | Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 0 | 0 |
21 | Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 0 | 0 |
To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix thisNew regulation made this certainly more exciting.
Mostly true, but now its far easier to get within drs range.To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this
To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this
Glad you enjoyed it, that what matters.
I think the sprint race was brought in for the newer F1 fans, those that have been watching DTS on Netflix, a lot of more established F1 watchers I have found dont like it.
only on modern tracks with enough width to safely send one down the outside will there be more natural overtakes. tracks like imola are tiny with little run off room. it’s safer just to keep close behind then power down the straight.To be honest, “overtaking” is still mainly due to DRS. They need to fix this
Im not only talking about today. We have had more than 1 race this season and its improved but its still clear that DRS is required which in my opinion is poor for F1only on modern tracks with enough width to safely send one down the outside will there be more natural overtakes. tracks like imola are tiny with little run off room. it’s safer just to keep close behind then power down the straight.
Hold on a moment. This actually reads like a serious post? What joke did I miss?!yeah. i get the feeling it’s just there to have another race start over a race weekend. without pit stops and strategy calls is just means the cars sort themselves out during the first few laps and it’s almost a procession. can’t blame drivers for being cautious either, a big shunt on saturday could impact their race on sunday, where the big points are to play for.
Don’t get me wrong, if cars could overtake consistently naturally without needing a significant speed advantage to do so, then great. But why is DRS necessarily poor for F1? The reality is that even before DRS, most overtakes would happen on or at the first turn after a straight due to slip stream.Im not only talking about today. We have had more than 1 race this season and its improved but its still clear that DRS is required which in my opinion is poor for F1
Don’t get me wrong, if cars could overtake consistently naturally without needing a significant speed advantage to do so, then great. But why is DRS necessarily poor for F1? The reality is that even before DRS, most overtakes would happen on or at the first turn after a straight due to slip stream.
The potential issue with DRS presently is not its existence in my view, but the fact that at times it’s so powerful that it reduces the skill level needed to pass, or taking Saudi as an example, leads to drivers doing odd and unnatural things to get DRS rather than be ahead. It’s the balancing that needs fixing.
Are you really suggesting that historically, even long before DRS, the majority of overtakes did NOT take place on or at the end of a straight? Because if so, it’s false. And otherwise I think we are aligned. Like I said, it’s not that it exists, it’s that it guarantees you the overtake, as you said.That is completly untrue. DRS was brought in after the issues got so bad that what you say occurred but it was not always the case. DRS basically guarantees you the overtake. I don’t think its a good thing but yes its better than the current alternative.
As I said before it needs fixing
No I am saying it didn't occur with an artifical speed boost that practically guaranteed you an overtakeAre you really suggesting that historically, even long before DRS, the majority of overtakes did NOT take place on or at the end of a straight? Because if so, it’s false. And otherwise I think we are aligned. Like I said, it’s not that it exists, it’s that it guarantees you the overtake, as you said.
They should run sprint races in reverse championship order, with qualification determining the Sunday grid and functioning as a tiebreaker if people have the same amount of points. Gives someone else a chance at points and creates a different challenge for the top teams.This current format of sprint racing is pointless. No different to the actual GP on the sunday. Unless the grid is reversed or ballast added im starting to think sprint races are entirely skipable. Takes the shine off the sunday race.