F1 2022 Season

hobbers said:
Hamilton must really be rueing passing on the chance to join Ferrari.
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I doubt it. I doubt the drivers really care that much about having one bad season. He just won 8 straight constructors championships, having a bad season isn't the end of the world and he'd have been where he is now performing poorly for multiple seasons with Ferrari just to have this one good season finally? I'll bet he's more than completely satisfied with his choices.
 
Zarlak said:
I doubt it. I doubt the drivers really care that much about having one bad season. He just won 8 straight constructors championships, having a bad season isn't the end of the world and he'd have been where he is now performing poorly for multiple seasons with Ferrari just to have this one good season finally? I'll bet he's more than completely satisfied with his choices.
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I can see your point, but I think he will be bothered he has to drive a dog of a car, he will be gutted he has gone from WC winner to out in Q2 with 2 seasons.
You could see he was gutted after qualifying.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Mercedes appears to be nowhere near solving the chronic porpoising issues impacting its W13, with the bouncing phenomenon so severe in FP1 at Imola that it led to a floor stay rupture on George Russell's car.

Russell concluded Friday's single practice session which took place on a wet track P10, a massive 4.860s off the pace from the leading Ferrari of Charles Leclerc, while teammate Lewis Hamilton was a lowly P17.

Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff said that porpoising issues coupled with tyre warm-up problems undermined the reigning world champion team's practice session at Imola.

"We had George bouncing so much that he actually broke the stay on the floor," Wolff revealed. "You can’t drive – you have to lift on the straight.

"They are trained – I have never experienced bouncing like this in my life. But it’s clearly not drivable."

Mercedes as been working hard to try and mitigate its bouncing complications, but so far with very little success.

While the Brackley squad isn't the only team suffering from the ground effect issue, it hasn't succeeded in reducing its troubles without compromising its car's performance.

Ferrari on the other hand has been able to live with its porpoising predicament as it hasn't hindered the overall performance of its F1-75 car.

"Their porpoising looks a little bit different to ours," Wolff said. "Our frequency looks higher and the main difference is that when they hit the brakes, their car stabilizes – ours not."

Wolff suggested that the massive pace deficit in FP1 between Mercedes and Ferrari was rooted in tyre temperatures in the precarious track conditions and therefore grip.

"The Ferraris seemed to unlock that, everybody else is pretty much all over the place," commented the Austrian.

"Feedback that we are getting from Lewis and George is that there’s literally zero grip and that these gaps point to the tyres.

"When you are able to unlock that issue, you will do a jump and where that will end, I don’t know.

"I think there will be quite some discrepancies in performance and you could see a team [really behind in qualifying later on Friday].

"We were five seconds off the pace – it’s not the car and not the driver."
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I dont see Mercedes making any improvements till they get a new floor for the car. Easier said than done.

I do wonder if the FIA will have to step in and do something, not sure what to eradicate the porposing for all the cars. Its making a mockery of F1 as the pinnacle of motorsport and there has to be medium to long term health concerns for the drivers. Bouncing up and down like that at 180mph with g forces to contend with must be doing or has the serious potential to do damage to their brain and spine.
 
dinostar77 said:
I dont see Mercedes making any improvements till they get a new floor for the car. Easier said than done.

I do wonder if the FIA will have to step in and do something, not sure what to eradicate the porposing for all the cars. Its making a mockery of F1 as the pinnacle of motorsport and there has to be medium to long term health concerns for the drivers. Bouncing up and down like that at 180mph with g forces to contend with must be doing or has the serious potential to do damage to their brain and spine.
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Not all the teams are experiencing it, the Aston in qualifying looked very stable.
At times the Ferrari looks worse than Mercedes, but I do agree it needs to be sorted, cant be good for the drivers being bounced around like that.
I doubt the FIA will set in, they will just say some teams don't have it , its a design issue, no safety.
 
dinostar77 said:
I dont see Mercedes making any improvements till they get a new floor for the car. Easier said than done.

I do wonder if the FIA will have to step in and do something, not sure what to eradicate the porposing for all the cars. Its making a mockery of F1 as the pinnacle of motorsport and there has to be medium to long term health concerns for the drivers. Bouncing up and down like that at 180mph with g forces to contend with must be doing or has the serious potential to do damage to their brain and spine.
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RB doesnt bounce. So its not the rules that are the pronlem.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
I can see your point, but I think he will be bothered he has to drive a dog of a car, he will be gutted he has gone from WC winner to out in Q2 with 2 seasons.
You could see he was gutted after qualifying.
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Sure he will be annoyed that fixing the issue is slower than everyone expects, but generally if you win everything for almost a decade straight then having one poor season isn't enough to make you regret not moving somewhere you'd have had even less success every year just because they're having one good season. That's dumb.
 
For once it's nice to see Mercedes struggling to nail something isn't it?

Over the last 8 years they've been smugly imperious, a seemingly unstoppable well oiled machine. Even when things look bad they still came out on top.

This time though they've got it very badly wrong :lol:
 
VorZakone said:
The sprint race concept seems...odd. What's good about it?
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The idea isn't bad, it's 1 less practice session and a race instead - the problem is it's not really any different than the actual race on sunday. It could be more exciting, they could have done something more out of the box like reverse grid order, random grid slots, reverse qualy order. Just jazz it up a bit.

The main issue though was the previous generation of cars couldn't overtake well enough to make it exciting in a short amount of laps.
 
Zarlak said:
Sure he will be annoyed that fixing the issue is slower than everyone expects, but generally if you win everything for almost a decade straight then having one poor season isn't enough to make you regret not moving somewhere you'd have had even less success every year just because they're having one good season. That's dumb.
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I agree with you about the one bad season, and he would not have had the sucess he did at Mercedes.
 
Adam-Utd said:
The idea isn't bad, it's 1 less practice session and a race instead - the problem is it's not really any different than the actual race on sunday. It could be more exciting, they could have done something more out of the box like reverse grid order, random grid slots, reverse qualy order. Just jazz it up a bit.

The main issue though was the previous generation of cars couldn't overtake well enough to make it exciting in a short amount of laps.
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But doesn't it dilute the Sunday race? For me, the Sunday race is still the main event. Anything else unnecessarily takes away the prestige of it.
 
VorZakone said:
But doesn't it dilute the Sunday race? For me, the Sunday race is still the main event. Anything else unnecessarily takes away the prestige of it.
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For me more racing can never be a bad thing, but it is a little too similar to the normal sunday race which makes it feel that way.

They should have been braver and done something a bit more spicy
 
pauldyson1uk said:
what's going on in FP2 ? Russel in P1 and Lewis in P3 !!!
Forgot it was on to be honest.
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they’ve worked out how to deal with the porpoising; toto has been on to race control and demanded that the other teams go slower so they can be competitive again.
 
Parc ferme Conditions
Despite this morning being a practice session, as qualifying happened yesterday, there can be no further changes to these cars before the Sprint gets underway.
So, however these cars have been set up will have to last them for the day- can all the teams make it work?
 
Adam-Utd said:
For once it's nice to see Mercedes struggling to nail something isn't it?

Over the last 8 years they've been smugly imperious, a seemingly unstoppable well oiled machine. Even when things look bad they still came out on top.

This time though they've got it very badly wrong :lol:
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I would agree, if not for the injustice last season!
 
Merc with fuel in it seems to bring them forward, they clearly just can't get one lap pace out of the thing.
 
This feels like one of those McLaren years for Lewis. He won’t beat his teammate but can see him winning one race at some point.
 
Those Ferrari road cars they're driving are gorgeous, I'd love to get to drive one, or even better own one!
 
Was I right in hearing the sprint is a race in its own right but yesterday's pole remains the same for the race regardless where they finish today?

So no matter where he finishes today, Max is on pole?
 
United Hobbit said:
Was I right in hearing the sprint is a race in its own right but yesterday's pole remains the same for the race regardless where they finish today?

So no matter where he finishes today, Max is on pole?
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He has the pole position in the record books from yesterday's quali

But the race start order will be determined by the sprint race

So if max was to finish 2nd in the sprint race he starts second but in the record books had the pole at imola 2022
 
United Hobbit said:
Was I right in hearing the sprint is a race in its own right but yesterday's pole remains the same for the race regardless where they finish today?

So no matter where he finishes today, Max is on pole?
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As far as I know it just counts as a pole for Max but if he doesn't finish first he won't start from pole position regardless. (Do correct me if i'm wrong but that's how I've understood it since the start of these sprint races)
 
OK thanks that's what I thought, as last year they started the race based on their sprint finish position and qualifying was to determine their starting position for the sprint

But could have sworn sky said there'd been a rule change and they start based on their qualifying positions but must have misheard, the superbru prediction implied the sprint picks the race grid order too.
 
This is going to be a shite race tomorrow, doubt we will get going if people keep spinning off.
 
Think I'd prefer red flags in the sprint as they're so short it negates a large section of it with the SC
 
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