Expectations for the New Season

I hope for a league title and winning the Europa League.

I expect us to barely stay in contention for 6th until christmas or so, only for Ten Hag to be replaced, we get a new manager bounce for a couple of weeks, and end 5th.
 
RedBanker said:
Finally the manager part of things is settled. The powers that be chose stability and now that this will be his third season in charge with the humongous investments made till date, what would be the expectations?

For me top two finish and Europa League would be the expectation. Don't really care about domestic cups.
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Comfortable top 4 finish and a Europa League trophy. Maybe I can accept top 5 with the Europa League that secures CL football, but in all honesty, anything other than top 4 is a failure.
 
If they replace Varane and Martial adequately then would expect consolidation around 3rd to 5th with a title challenge the following season.
 
Depends on the transfer window. But a big club who sorts itself out should be fighting for top 4. The focus has to be with our play on the pitch, last season was pathetic for the most part and we simply have to be an organized team. If he coached a system that is functional, we should see that on the pitch regardless of level of squad (and let's be real, at United that level will always be enough to push for CL). But we are quite a ways away from doing more than that.

We need a good window to give us a fresh start next season, and we need to start implementing a good system. Beyond that... We'll see.
 
For me, the bare minimum is qualification for the Champions League. Anything less is unacceptable, even the cup double. We shouldn't be satisfied with being a cup team that only turns up for 5 games each season. Yearly CL qualification isn't just about being among Europe’s elite, it's about consistently showing we belong there, competing with the best, attracting top players, and securing that sweet financial boost. It's also a statement that we’re a serious side. Last year was nothing short of an embarrassment and it's no wonder the season went the way it did after that disaster campaign.

The qualification method doesn't even matter. Personally, I'd like us to win Europa again because we don't have enough European trophies. It'd also be a good experience for our younger players and provide momentum for the next season.

Top 4/5 + Europa would be ideal but, just getting back to CL football should be the priority.
 
Difficult to say until the window is over. The current squad has huge issues and it’s up to INEOS to rectify as many of them as possible.

If we can bring in a few genuinely excellent players in key positions such as central defence and midfield then top four will be about right.
 
City have the title wrapped up so ideally we close the gap and finish top 3/4

Win the Europa League (I really want this as love European competitions, but also after a few beers after the cup final booked a flight to Bilbao)

Win a domestic cup (if the Europa League not won)
 
You won't make up 30 points on City and Arsenal who won't stand still.
Liverpool, Tottenham and Villa could be vulnerable to you.
One of EL, CC or FAC is a realistic aim.
 
K Stand Knut said:
wow, you are in for a long and probably disappointing season.

Well, OTT with your expectations. If he succeeds and gets 2nd and the Europa League, it would be a monumental success
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I have had enough of mediocrity and disappointments. I am in the mood for some monumental success. :devil:
 
Top 4 and much improved tactical concepts from ETH. Need to see some actual progress in the style of play, no more excuses.
 
- Top 4
- Clear progress/development towards an attractive recognizable style of play
- Further player/talent development
- Remain the level of fighting spirit the players have for the manager
- Good runs in the FA CUP / EL

Ask me again after the summer window
 
I would expect top 6. About par really. I don't really care about the cups. Style of play doesn't seem to make any sense anyway.
RedBanker said:
Are we expecting an improvement in general play and perhaps not getting bullied in games, even at home?
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That would be unreasonable. There might be a player injured.
 
Some bewildering takes on here concerning the season just gone, the team finished 9 points off the mark and those points should have been accumulated in:
Palace (L) - terrible form under Roy,
Fulham (L)
Bournemouth (L)
Notts Forest (L)
Burnley (D)

With no reinvention of history top four should be a minimalistic expectation. You don't set out to improve upon a bad season, you correspond with reaching the competitive and commercial standard.
 
Top 4 finish and get us scoring goals. This is an absolute minimum, my expectations for next season when Baldie came in was to be challenging for the league.
 
I’m expecting us to get all our transfer business done very quickly now the managerial position is decided upon. Free transfers and a few young players will be expected to arrive, can’t see any big name signings arriving, FDJ MDL etc
 
BorisManUtd said:
Positive goal difference? Should happen.
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I know you're sarcastic here.
It could happen, but I wouldn't bet on it. :(

The last ten league games we played this season we managed to produce a positive expected goals goaldifference twice (against Burnley and Sheffield United).

This is the xG for and against for the other 8 games:

Brentford (A) 3,16 xG vs. our 0,99 xG (result 1-1 - lucky)
Chelsea (A) 3,48 xG vs. our 1,57 xG (result 4-3 loss)
Liverpool (H) 4,43 xG vs. our 0,81 xG (result 2-2 - lucky)
Bournemouth (A) 2,39 xG vs. our 1,52 xG (result 2-2 - lucky)
Palace (A) 2,07 xG vs. our 0,34 xG (result 4-0 loss - Should have been ETH's last match as manager and was rock bottom)
Arsenal (H) 1,73 xG vs. our 0,55 xG (result 1-0 loss)
Newcastle (H) 2,28 xG vs. our 1,50 xG (Result 3-2 win - lucky)
Brighton (A) 1,97 xG vs. our 1,00 xG (result 2-0 win - lucky)

xG for and against total, including the games against SHU and Burnley:

24,62 expected goals conceded (21,51 from the 8 games above)
vs.
14,85 expected goals scored (8,28 from the 8 games above).

That's a negative expected goal difference from the last ten games of this season of 10 goals, including games against the weakest teams in the league. Over the whole season we had an expected goal difference of -14,45 (15th in the league)
We conceded exactly 200 shots in the last ten league games of the season (20th in the league - SHU conceded 174 shots in 19th).

Expected points the last 10 seasons:
14/15 - 1,66 xPts/90 (4th in the league for xPTs)
15/16 - 1,49 xPts/90 (8th in the league for xPts) (LVG fired two days after winning the FA cup - Imagine that. Can't say that I miss LVG football much)
16/17 - 1,87 xPts/90 (4th in the league for xPTs)
17/18 - 1,64 xPts/90 (6th in the league for xPTs)
18/19 (Mou) - 1,41 xPts/90 (9th in the league for xPTs) (Mou fired mid season)
18/19 (Ole) - 1,81 xPts/90 (3th in the league for xPTs)
19/20 - 1,87 xPts/90 (4th in the league for xPTs)
20/21 - 1,73 xPts/90 (4th in the league for xPTs)
21/22 (Ole) - 1,30 xPts/90 (11th in the league for xPTs) (Ole fired mid season)
21/22 (Rangnick) - 1,50 xPts/90 (6th in the league for xPTs)
22/23 - 1,75 xPts/90 (6th in the league for xPTs)
23/24 - 1,17 xPts/90 (15th in the league for xPTs) over the entire season and ETH gets to start another season in charge.

And this is just some of the numbers. It looks the same in every measurable team parameter. Then comes the eye test, tactical in game management and subs, why so many injuries(?), man management, etc.....

ETH is also the only manager between Mou, LVG, Ole and him, where it's impossible to see on the pitch what he is trying to do with the team.

To expect Manchester United with ETH behind the wheel to suddenly become a top team again next season is, well.....betting on United to finish top 4 should give you good odds, to put it like that.

I guess we'll just have to buckle up and put the mud goggles on.
 
My bare minimum expectation is that EtH will be gone if we serve the same shit as we did last season rather than gaslight ourselves we can't expect anything better

Realistically we should be aiming at at least top4 and getting to the latter stages of EL/domestic cups, but I am sceptical if the players and manager will feel any pressure to perform and if we will be motivated enough to achieve this
 
Top 3 should be the minimum expectations with top 4 to keep his job.

The club think last season was an anomaly, the manager and previously rated players have a clean slate. It's easily a top 4 squad if setup correctly so we'll make some signings to strengthen that position and expect around top 3 I reckon.
 
Win Europa league. It keeps up ETH's record of a trophy per season and is a stronger accomplishment than the domestic cups. And gets us straight into the following Champions League.
 
surf said:
Win Europa league. It keeps up ETH's record of a trophy per season and is a stronger accomplishment than the domestic cups. And gets us straight into the following Champions League.
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The Europa League is the trophy with which I’ll be happiest winning as well. We’re not guaranteed to finish in the top 4 so at the very least we should be going deep into it, semi-finals at minimum.
 
We will a much worse season if Ten Hag remains in charge for the whole season.
 
All depends on the injury situation. A lot less injuries than the season just finished my expectation will be 4th at least in the Premier league table. If a similar set of injuries again it will be 6th to 8th in the table. Three cup finals in two seasons winning two so my expectation is to win another trophy in 2025, hopefully lifting up the Europa League in the San Mames Stadium in Bilbao.
 
It's too early . We Need to see who comes and goes first . If they get good offers for Bruno or Rashford, are they selling ? It sounds like they might , but we don't know ? Without knowing who comes in its impossible .
 
Depends on signings , sales and injuries. With some good additions and better luck with injuries no reason cant win the Europa league or get top 4. Think we could find ourselves in a situation Jose had where we get to a point in the season where we need to prioritise one. Nice to have a decent recruitment team in place for the first time in decades. I am positive.
 
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i would like to see
  • Just play some decent football that doesn't have us banging our heads against the wall (better coaching and less injuries would give this a better base platform); and
  • Hopefully get rid of some deadwood / players who don't want to be (or shouldnt) be here followed by some decent 1st team signings (other leagues exist outside of the Netherlands Erik!)
if the above happens no reason why we cant
  • Win the Europa;
  • Top 4; and
  • Decent cup run.
to much to hope for??
 
80+ points in Premier League
A strong cup run in Europa League
& Cohesive play style all across the season.
 
it's impossible to say until we see how the summer goes, for us and everyone else. The squad we have now is probably capable of 5th, and we need 2-3 good signings to bring us to the top four threshold. If EtH does get those, then absolutely top four should be an expectation, with a decent run in Europe. But improving both results and performances in the league has to be the priority.

Honestly, I'd just like to see us look like a well coached side consistently, and look like we're making progress as a team.
 
Start with a functioning team. A solid defense with a goal keeper that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. A midfield with Mainoo and Bruno that works and us scoring lots and lots of goals
 
Score more; concede less.
Get the basics right and build from there.
 
Need to see the transfers and pre-season form/injury issues solved before we can really assess.

Optimistically, third place and a trophy. Pessimistically, EtH sacked mid season.

I do hope the club rally round EtH though because everyone in the media and even some of our own fans are just waiting for the club to fail and to rip the manager apart. It would be good to shove it back in their faces with a great season. That might not happen though.
 
Back up CF, starting DCM, starting CB to replace Varane , backup CB, winger.

Sell or phase out Rashford. Give more chances to Amad.

Start playing a better style of play. But still maintain the pragmatism in big matches that gets results against big teams.

Top 4 finish, ideally dreaming of a title challenge till around Feb/March. Not too fussed about Europa.

It’s more about progress in play, continued development of young players, getting rid of or dropping the players with big egos who don’t suit the system. But also improving results.

From ineos. Fill the mentioned positions. Sell who needs to be sold. Bring stability at the boardroom level. Put players in their place.
 
Our aims for the season should be to qualify for the cl and win a cup but it’s unfair to set them as expectations before we’ve even signed anyone. Slow summer?
 
Depends on ins and outs, rumours of Olise when we have Rashford, Garnacho, Amad, Sancho and Anthony at least 2 of those have to go. Midfield needs a very dynamic player to compliment Mainoo and Bruno and even then if E.T.H. tries the same tactics again we will have problems. 2 Centre backs required and some outgoings needed, LB needed and RB cover if AWB leaves, striker needed to cover RH a lot of issues to resolve at one go. We will probably be in asimilar position this time next year.
 
Tyrion said:
I would expect top 6. About par really. I don't really care about the cups. Style of play doesn't seem to make any sense anyway.


That would be unreasonable. There might be a player injured.
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So true.
 
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