Evra | (Soon to be Ex-)Pundit Thread | Patman Watch

Tel074 said:
So because he has a different opinion to yours he's a idiot . Ahh I see how this works .
I don't believe much that I see or dont see on the news does that also make me a idiot ?
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Either we accept education and science or we don't. These anti-intellectualism movements are so dangerous.

Anyone who believes the entire medical and science communities in the world are lying abiut covid are bat shit crazy.

Fine for people to have opinions - but not all opinions are equal or deserve respect. An unqualified person like Evra thinking he knows more about the pandemic and vaccine that the experts in that field is laughable. Evra should not ever be employed by United or any reputable organisation after using his platform to endanger lives.

People can't pick and choose if science and the medical world can be trust. He is saying the vaccines are lethal - so bascially accusing the medical professional of a mass conspiracy to commit genocide...
 
Lennon7 said:
Really well spoken but he still backed Woodward and the Glazers. He’s saying we’re making so much money yet not spending it but at the same time saying Woodward is not the problem and his only downfall is trusting the wrong people, and that the Glazers love United so they’re fine too.
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Unfortunately he is totally wrong. As the CEO the buck stops with Woodward. If it's other people at fault, it's Woodward's job to deal with them. For now the Glazers are happy but eventually the on pitch failure will spread to the business side.
 


This is concerning the way the club is being run and yet some glazers and Woodward apologists will just blame the manager and act as if changing them will get us back to top, not realizing there are many things wrong and broken.
 
nokillingmoths said:
Do you believe covid conspiracy theories, vaccines will kill you and hate 5g? If so I've got some bad news for you pal.
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Its because of people like you so that's why the masses are so brainwashed. Go and believe everything you see on the news.
 
The Man Himself said:
Man, Patrice! Love the guy. Amazing if true that a director of a big club has to call him to tell Matt Judge to answer the phone! And if as he says the main fault of Glazers and Woodward is having wrong people around and trusting wrong people, it is still their responsibility. What are they doing to fix or change it?
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If Avram loves the club like Evra claims then why is he and his family letting this shambles play out. I understand he's not a football man but get people in who are and get rid of people who aren't doing their jobs well (that includes Ed).

Ole and Carrick should be the ones going to meet players and selling the United vision. If not him then at least someone like Evra, Vidic, Park whoever they can get that's respected and embodies what the club stands for.
 
duffer said:
He posted a long speech on his social media telling people that Covid 19 is man-made to de-populate the planet. Advised that we stop watching the news.
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And he is absolutely spot on with that. Evra has went up in my books.
 
DarkLord said:
And he is absolutely spot on with that. Evra has went up in my books.
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I'm curious. Do you believe that COVID was man made by the Chinese government to target their aging population? Since the virus hits them, much much worse. If so, you realise that the majority of people in power, not just in China. But around the world, are in the age bracket that the virus effects the hardest? And the virus decimated china's ability to export trade. I'm curious as to what you think happened.
 
rcoobc said:
Zaha and the managers daughter.

This is Romeo and Juliet stuff

Someone get holywoo on the line. See if Ashton Saunders and Dakota Johnson are available
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Mr Peanutbutter to play Alex Buttner.
iHicksy said:
I'm curious. Do you believe that COVID was man made by the Chinese government to target their aging population? Since the virus hits them, much much worse. If so, you realise that the majority of people in power, not just in China. But around the world, are in the age bracket that the virus effects the hardest? And the virus decimated china's ability to export trade. I'm curious as to what you think happened.
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I think it's the Lizard People.
 
AshRK said:


This is concerning the way the club is being run and yet some glazers and Woodward apologists will just blame the manager and act as if changing them will get us back to top, not realizing there are many things wrong and broken.
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People always blame the manager, you’d think getting Mourinho in would have put that nonsense to bed. Klopp would fail here, Pep would fail here. Would love to see people turning on Klopp after 3 games, it’s fun to wonder what excuses they’d come up with as to why the manager is terrible.
 
Love Evra's comments there, one of the rare former legends who care more about and want the best for the club over any self interest unlike a few other of our high profile legends
 
David Gill and Ferguson were holding this club together until they couldn't anymore . Their exit was the perfect chance for the Glazers to start turning the club into a perfect business , it's sad times .
 
RUCK4444 said:
There are MANY non believers, I’m actually in the minority in my workplace who believes it’s real and not massively exaggerated.

I’ve had so many heated arguments with colleagues over their idiocy.
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Just textbook conspiracy theorists. Sad.
 
Evra would be the perfect person to negotiate with players. He's a pure charm offensive guy. You wouldnt want to say no to that face.
 
His video today I really liked. Be is so passionate about the club and it must be frustrating as he clearly has links to Woodward etc. but even he can't get through to them.

Also liked how he threw Bebe's name in :lol:
 
11101 said:
Unfortunately he is totally wrong. As the CEO the buck stops with Woodward. If it's other people at fault, it's Woodward's job to deal with them. For now the Glazers are happy but eventually the on pitch failure will spread to the business side.
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Will it? We’ve hit record revenue figures since Fergie left having won very little. As long as we can still sell the brand and get the sponsorship deals, therefore making money, I can’t see how anything at the top will change.

Very likely that the next shirt sponsor we get will be another record because we’re just a brand now.
 
El Zoido said:
People always blame the manager, you’d think getting Mourinho in would have put that nonsense to bed. Klopp would fail here, Pep would fail here. Would love to see people turning on Klopp after 3 games, it’s fun to wonder what excuses they’d come up with as to why the manager is terrible.
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While I'm sure they would have issues with the board they are currently managers who are currently light years ahead of any manager we've appointed since SAF retired. The structure is probably the root cause of our issues, but they have not been the only issue. Under a competent structure, I think we'd have had issues with all of the manager we've appointed.

While Evra says the Glazers love the club, which may well be true, the most worrying thing is that they don't seem to understand football or any of the flaws of our current structure. It seems like it's the same with Woodward who just doesn't see anything wrong with the club. Given Woodward is one of the Glazers' people, unfortunately I don't think much will change any time soon.
 
Lennon7 said:
Will it? We’ve hit record revenue figures since Fergie left having won very little. As long as we can still sell the brand and get the sponsorship deals, therefore making money, I can’t see how anything at the top will change.

Very likely that the next shirt sponsor we get will be another record because we’re just a brand now.
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It takes time to filter through. Look at Liverpool. They were still a huge club throughout the 90s despite winning nothing, but not long after that they were left behind by us and others. If we continue to be irrelevant on the pitch it will eventually hurt us off it. We are already struggling to get a new shirt sponsor at the valuation we want.
 
Great from him to expose the frauds of our board directly and honestly in front of everyone. Needed an outsider to do it because no one from the inside would have dared.
 
Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell said:
Either we accept education and science or we don't. These anti-intellectualism movements are so dangerous.

Anyone who believes the entire medical and science communities in the world are lying abiut covid are bat shit crazy.

Fine for people to have opinions - but not all opinions are equal or deserve respect. An unqualified person like Evra thinking he knows more about the pandemic and vaccine that the experts in that field is laughable. Evra should not ever be employed by United or any reputable organisation after using his platform to endanger lives.

People can't pick and choose if science and the medical world can be trust. He is saying the vaccines are lethal - so bascially accusing the medical professional of a mass conspiracy to commit genocide...
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Agreed.
 
He loves United that’s for sure.
 
Very emotional outpour, but nothing of real consequence in that speech. Lot of talk about how we are doing things wrong or how he is not afraid to take names, but the only name he took was Matt Judge.

Clearly a guy who is frustrated (like all of us) but needs to keep some of it under check to make sure that he doesn't lose his future job opportunity with Man United.
 
AshRK said:


This is concerning the way the club is being run and yet some glazers and Woodward apologists will just blame the manager and act as if changing them will get us back to top, not realizing there are many things wrong and broken.
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Nothing prevent a manager from talking to a player the club is officially trying to purchase. Football negotiations and behind the door talks are indeed mainly done with lawyers, agents and COOs, players will be involved because they have legal papers to sign and agree on. The rest, informal talks about football are on top of it and generally done directly by the manager and/or the DOF.
 
And there's posters on here who defend the owners and Woodward. Nah, the club is fecked.
 
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