Everton deducted 10 points for PSR breach (reduced to 6) | Deducted further 2 points for second breach
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Seems fecked up considering Chelsea and Man City have skated for years.
Just like in Trump's NYC fraud case, it's not just leveeing a fine as punishment; it's about disgorgement, or forcing the fraudsters give up all of the gains they made through any fraudulent schemes. So for Chelsea and Man City, it's not only taking away the things they stole (league titles, Champions League wins, FA Cups) but also taking away all of the revenue the generated from these higher profile games. Relegate both clubs, void all of their titles, levee fines against them at that are penurious, like on the order of $2Billion each.
Oh yeah, and mean old Everton stripped of 10 points. What in the feck.
Oh yeah, and mean old Everton stripped of 10 points. What in the feck.
When Dyche keeps them up after a 10 point deduction, its going to be some flex for old gravel throat.
With the shite that came up this season, Lampard could probably have kept them up.
The trouble is Everton have been truthful in there Finances.. and it's cost them.. other clubs are not .Reading spurs were docked 12 pts years ago for same thing then dropped to 6 then dropped to 0.. after appeal. New rules now that it has to be dealt with within same season or 3 mths something along those lines..
It's a lot of points , I do think there still good enough to gey out of it.. just hope it starts after they played Utd..
It's a lot of points , I do think there still good enough to gey out of it.. just hope it starts after they played Utd..
I'm an old geezer. I don't understand why city has not been punished. Did they offer bigger bribes?
115 charges v 1 charge.
I guess I think if the reduction piece (sponsorship levels decreasing due to performance) is well know, it’s odd we’ve never heard of the latter.
All bluster.
City and Chelsea have big dick money. They'll swat away any attempts at punishment, or lock it up in legal proceedings forever.
I wonder if it depends on the general level of the club.
United's deal is a maximum that assumes CL qualification, and is reduced if that isn't achieved, but a side like Brighton might have more of a baseline deal that involves "bonuses" for European qualification.
Righto chief
I feel like this is justice, American style. Poor Everton could only afford the public defender and gets the books thrown at them while City/Chelsea get the high-priced lawyers and buy their way to freedom.
Interesting. Thanks, yes hopefully we find out the details of what City has.
That is a good point - maybe more common when clubs look upwards at big qualification targets.
Are Everton's owners too broke to hire some goons who could have influenced their ruling one way or another?
If that’s the formula, why did the PL ask for a 12 point deduction?
Penalising the wrong team in blue.
It's a start. Just hope they work their way through Everton and Chelsea and eventually they'll end up at those other cheating cnuts.
It's a start. Just hope they work their way through Everton and Chelsea and eventually they'll end up at those other cheating cnuts.
Probably outsourced their accounting dept to PGMOL
One is backed by a nation state with limitless funds and huge influence in UK and european football.
The other is a business with links to Russia.
FFP : prevents Leeds, Portsmouth from happening again.
10 points seems very fair to me.
If clubs doing this just get a fine or a couple of points then it's hardly a deterrent is it.
If clubs doing this just get a fine or a couple of points then it's hardly a deterrent is it.
But who are city. Everton are a bigger club than city. City were a league 2 bumbling mess who only got lucky because they had Manchester in their club name. Without the cheating they wouldn’t be winning that treble
Fine is deserved and all that but i simply can't understand how the feck they got a fine already while City with 100 charges is winning trebles and buying players . Unbelievable shit
If City are found out then relegation would be the minimum based on this.
Wait, wait; they admitted that they did it? Oh boy....what a bad move.
@SilentWitness . Am i reading that right? You did admit it (instead doing City and stalling)?
@SilentWitness . Am i reading that right? You did admit it (instead doing City and stalling)?
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Hard to take the league seriously when Everton were massively punished like this and this fast too, while City has been alleged with ton of FFP charges for years and there hasn't been a single decision taken, not even a fine.
Hard to stall on something you're dead to rights on
Well the powers that be have set a precedent now, 10 point deduction per FFP breach.
So presumably City are now inline for a potential points deduction of 1,150 points...
Well the powers that be have set a precedent now, 10 point deduction per FFP breach.
So presumably City are now inline for a potential points deduction of 1,150 points...
They'll just spread the deduction out over the next 1,150 seasons and be fine.
It was fast because they pled guilty and it was a single charge
City have 115 charges so logically it takes a lot longer to investigate and actually prove it, City not helping slows it down as well, maybe the PL needs to re-think the number of charges and reduce them to a level they can prove right now and take action immediately
Given what has just happened to Everton , city are in for one hell of a beating, danish commentator 1981 style
I assumed we thought we were doing the right thing (by owning up) and due to previous punishments handed out, believed we would only get a fine rather than points deductions.
Well the powers that be have set a precedent now, 10 point deduction per FFP breach.
So presumably City are now inline for a potential points deduction of 1,150 points...
Should simply make these clubs start again in North West Counties or equivalent wherever they are based
Is there any explanation why City havent been hit with this sort of fine?
I dont mean any conspiracy theory but any sort of explanation from the EPL?
I dont mean any conspiracy theory but any sort of explanation from the EPL?
Still investigating.