Everton 2017/2018 thread

So apparently they are also signing Sandro Ramirez, an excellent signing IMO. However for some reason there are plenty of strikers who fail to shine in the PL like Zaza, Soldado, Calleri etc.
 
So apparently they are also signing Sandro Ramirez, an excellent signing IMO. However for some reason there are plenty of strikers who fail to shine in the PL like Zaza, Soldado, Calleri etc.
Simple, because they aren't good enough. Soldado should've done better though. I'm not convinced by Sandro either, won't score more than 10 goals imo. Lukaku will be a HUGE blow to Everton but hopefully Rooney (please!) can fill the gap left by him.
 
They are building a very fine team - even with losing Lukaku
Agree. Will be a different side with goals distributed throughout the team. Whereas previously they were depending solely on Lukaku.

Not sure about the wingers though. Having Deulofeu would have been great with Sandro coming in. As of now, the starters will be Mirallas and.. Lookman?
 
Barkley will play on the right side of midfield assuming he stays. He was great in that position last year. Would love a top quality left winger and one more centre back if no one was to leave.
 
There's still a few areas lacking in quality, Williams and Jagielka both have at least one howler a game in them and Lookman has real potential but they definitely need another attacker who can consistently provide service for the strikers and score a few themselves.
 
feck - that's how you do well in the transfer market. Just pick up the players ready to take the step up to the top level before the big clubs step in. This is a typical sign of a great manager.
 
Never heard of Onyekuru, but the other 4 are all good players, nothing world class yet but they all have good potential. They are doing their business early and want to try and maximise the potential of their signings from the beginning with a proper pre season.
 



A cool £95.8M spent already. That's a big statement of intent.

Couple of unknown gems there but really not sure if it would be a Big improvement on what they already have.
People just fail to understand the importance of having a 25 goal striker.

Would Keane make them better defensively ? Imho, no- defending was never an issue for Koemans teams.
Would Sandro make them better in attacking ? No, any striker is now a downgrade unless you get CL quality.
Klassen - No idea on his talent so can't comment but would he get a game above Morgan,Gana and Barkley in midfield - yet to be seen.

I would have spent money on a quality winger even if it meant paying above the odds unless they have more budget to burn.
 
Couple of unknown gems there but really not sure if it would be a Big improvement on what they already have.
People just fail to understand the importance of having a 25 goal striker.

Would Keane make them better defensively ? Imho, no- defending was never an issue for Koemans teams.
Would Sandro make them better in attacking ? No, any striker is now a downgrade unless you get CL quality.
Klassen - No idea on his talent so can't comment but would he get a game above Morgan,Gana and Barkley in midfield - yet to be seen.

I would have spent money on a quality winger even if it meant paying above the odds unless they have more budget to burn.

Keane is better than what they have. Sandro is a talent, you need more than one striker. Klaassen is a good player, he is better than Morgan, but also plays a different position. Dont know if he is better than Barkley, but he could leave and would be an excellent replacement. Pickford is also better than Robles or Stekelenburg
 
Couple of unknown gems there but really not sure if it would be a Big improvement on what they already have.
People just fail to understand the importance of having a 25 goal striker.

Would Keane make them better defensively ? Imho, no- defending was never an issue for Koemans teams.
Would Sandro make them better in attacking ? No, any striker is now a downgrade unless you get CL quality.
Klassen - No idea on his talent so can't comment but would he get a game above Morgan,Gana and Barkley in midfield - yet to be seen.

I would have spent money on a quality winger even if it meant paying above the odds unless they have more budget to burn.

Defending was an issue last season, their centre backs made far too many mistakes and when you add that to two dodgy keepers, they conceded lots of avoidable goals.
 
Fair play to Everton for having a go, but there is a bit of the what Spurs did with the Gareth Bale money going on here, their star man is ultimately leaving, and will pay for alot of good, but mostly unproven players, could go either way.
 
Keane is better than what they have. Sandro is a talent, you need more than one striker. Klaassen is a good player, he is better than Morgan, but also plays a different position. Dont know if he is better than Barkley, but he could leave and would be an excellent replacement. Pickford is also better than Robles or Stekelenburg

It would be a 4231 like below

-------Morgan - Ghana
Barkley -Klassen- Bolasie

Is it better than current top 6 midfield ? No - but a solid midfield and good enough for top 8
 
It would be a 4231 like below

-------Morgan - Ghana
Barkley -Klassen- Bolasie

Is it better than current top 6 midfield ? No - but a solid midfield and good enough for top 8

Yeah, Pickford, Klaassen and Keane will go straight into the first team. Sandro maybe, depends on their other business. I expect them to go for another winger or striker, they still need more offensively and they have only spend the Lukaku money so far, so there is still cash for another one or two players.
 
They'll be an interesting team next season, I wonder how Koeman wants them to play. Perhaps a midfield diamond and Lukaku-Ramirez up top?
 
The only really good piece of business so far, for me, has been Sandro who could go on to be a fantastic signing. Klassen could really go either way, I'm far from sold on Pickford and Keane is a decent signing but I think he's very overrated.

Edit: Forgot Onyekuru but he's been farmed out on loan for a season and I know next to nothing about the lad.
 
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Everton have had a good start to the window (the best start I think ) but it's still early, they might still lose their key goal scorer and the teams around them will strengthen aswell. If I was an Everton fan I would still expect one or two more attackers
 
Yea, Pickford and Keane have shown talent in the bottom half of the table but still have to be proven as top tier PL players pushing for CL places.
I think they could prove to be astute purchases but they could also take time to transition, regarding the mental side of the game.

Both Lukaku and Barkley still want out, who were their best two players last season, so it'll be interesting to see how their team looks come the start of the season.
 
Credit where it's due though, they've done a-lot of business very early on which is important. They're still linked with Sigurdsson but the £40m valuation seems pretty steep.
 
95 mil for players who are great for them, but are not gonna make them top 4 material.
 
95 mil for players who are great for them, but are not gonna make them top 4 material.
Top 4 is hard to make, especially now that we have Europa commitments. United spent that amount on one player and even they couldn't make it.

I'd rather us just put our eggs in the Europa basket and try do that route.
 
I can't say I know much about Sandro Ramirez, but how have Everton gotten a highly rated Spanish Under-21 player off the back of a good season for only 5 odd million?
 
feck - that's how you do well in the transfer market. Just pick up the players ready to take the step up to the top level before the big clubs step in. This is a typical sign of a great manager.

I'd say it's more a case of spend the money you know you're going to get (Lukaku, possibly Barkley also) before you get it, and thus before the selling clubs see you as having cash to burn. It's the wise way to do things.
 
In theory really sensible approach - spend the money you're going to make from Lukaku - but...

...if Chelsea want to be d*cks about it, wait til August 31st with a 45m offer. Because Everton HAVE to recoup a large part of this outlay. They've kind of shown their hand already.
 
In theory really sensible approach - spend the money you're going to make from Lukaku - but...

...if Chelsea want to be d*cks about it, wait til August 31st with a 45m offer. Because Everton HAVE to recoup a large part of this outlay. They've kind of shown their hand already.

Well, maybe, but Everton still have a potential Barkley sale up their sleeve ... so if push comes to shove they could sell him, keep Lukaku and probably live with the cash shortfall for a season.
 
In theory really sensible approach - spend the money you're going to make from Lukaku - but...

...if Chelsea want to be d*cks about it, wait til August 31st with a 45m offer. Because Everton HAVE to recoup a large part of this outlay. They've kind of shown their hand already.
Everton simply would not have spent the money if they wasn't prepared to deal with the potential non sale of Lukaku.
 
I don't think the spending really amounts to much improvement. They're very likely to lose Lukaku, which will weaken their first team considerably. Barkley, in part due a growing anti-English sentiment, is criminally underrated. Klaasen isn't an improvement. Keane is an obvious improvement, likewise Pickford. But unless they bring in some additional quality in attacking areas (more goals out wide) I see more of the same for Everton. Which isn't a bad thing, really, just a little fruitless?
 
They need better cover at full back, Baines is an injury worry for a full season and Im not sure how long Coleman will be out for.
 
Top 4 is hard to make, especially now that we have Europa commitments. United spent that amount on one player and even they couldn't make it.

I'd rather us just put our eggs in the Europa basket and try do that route.
Yeah, for sure. You are surely just behind the big boys though ;)
 
Well, maybe, but Everton still have a potential Barkley sale up their sleeve ... so if push comes to shove they could sell him, keep Lukaku and probably live with the cash shortfall for a season.
Still don't think anyone sane would pay for Barkley. Some talent , but hugely overhyped by his friends in the English media. Incredibly inconsistent and not improved his decision making since youth level.

Lukaku will go, but knowing Everton have yo sell...if there's no bidding war could be interesting.
 
@BigDunc9
What do you think your transfer kitty for this window is (net)?
I mean, do you think these signings you made mean you have to sell a few players to balance the books, or will any departures fund more incoming payers?

Edit: And also, have there been any concrete offers/interest in Barkley yet?