Andrew Moran who is also a Brighton player
Evan Ferguson - Top Irish Prospect
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Yeah, he was a Brighton coach so obviously.Andrew Moran who is also a Brighton player
Great performance Ireland - deserved a draw at least
Cucurella was 60m? He will cost more, 75m plus 25m in add-ons?
Can't see Brighton wanting to sell for 40 million. What for? He is going to be the main striker which by its nature means he's an important player, he's got bags of totally realistic improvement over the next few years that should see his value rise. A guy like Tony Bloom is not going to be stupid enough to see that overly hasty cash out to be good value. We'd have to massively compensate Brighton for where they believe Ferguson is going as a footballer. I think that's the problem, you will have to pay that fee for someone who probably isn't yet a United 9 for a gruelling season across all competitions.
I think it's smarter leaving him at Brighton unless we get wind of others being in for him. He can grow there and we don't have to pay that markup for his potential, we pay the premium for a more developed product a few years down the line and get someone more suitable for our current goals right now. There's no better place for him to improve, he's under a good manager, in a creative team.
I think it's smarter leaving him at Brighton unless we get wind of others being in for him. He can grow there and we don't have to pay that markup for his potential, we pay the premium for a more developed product a few years down the line and get someone more suitable for our current goals right now. There's no better place for him to improve, he's under a good manager, in a creative team.
It's all set up for this boy to do for us in the semi isn't it?
(Yes, I am aware this is a potential "posts that sound sexual" candidate)
(Yes, I am aware this is a potential "posts that sound sexual" candidate)
There were a few occasions in that game where he made something out of a layoff/lovely piece of hold up play that makes you realise his talent isn't just confined to goalscoring. His link up play is very good - and phenomenal for his age.
It wasn't clear, so play nice.
Under current circumstances it is mad to think we would sign 2 big money strikers................but if we had Qatari ownership there is more than a chance something like this would happen tbh.
Hojlund looks silkier/easier on the eye
I agree. This kid being Irish makes everyone overhype him greatly. He is good for his age but so are very many other young players. Rasmus looks better than him at everything and to me he has a much higher ceiling especially given his pace. We should be going for Rasmus hojlund in the summer...he will be much cheaper too
I know what you mean I think, though. Would love to see us sign him
Delighted he’s Irish but I was at the game and I think he’s far too slow for United
Everyone (including me!) used to say the exact same thing about Harry Kane.
Have said it elsewhere, he reminds me of a young Teddy Sheringham. Got a bit of everything.
he doesn’t have to be blinding quick, he needs to be a fulcrum for the others & chip in goals. He is very young but he certainly looks like he has the tools to do that. Nothing to do with his nationality
True hopefully he will be even 3/4 as good as Kane
yeah been really impressed with him so far this season. It was great watching an Irish player who can actually hold it up up top
He's not rapid but he's quick and agile enough from what I've seen.
The french center backs are beasts though
I’ve never heard of someone being overhyped because they’re Irish before.
That’s a new one on me
That’s a new one on me
On this site? Are you kidding?
It wasn't long ago that the Southampton goalie was seen as the reincarnation of Lev Yashin, that Parrot kid at Spurs was going to be a star and some of us oldies will remember the "Richard Dunne - Vidic with Pace" thread.
Then you missed the James McCarthy hype train on here many years ago.
None of these players were being hyped because they're Irish though (ok, maybe the Richard Dunne one). They were being hyped because they looked like good players.
Bazunu still will be a top PL keeper.
Bazunu still will be a top PL keeper.
I can't believe there are Irish people in this thread denying that players get hyped on this forum because they're Irish 
Only fans to overrate Irish talent are the English when they have a chance to steal them over.
But who? We get excited about Irish players breaking through but that’s between us Irish and it’s all relative.I can't believe there are Irish people in this thread denying that players get hyped on this forum because they're Irish
I’m not seeing 80m valuations put on players just because they’re from Meath.
They’re being talked about because they’re Irish. Similarly talented non-Irish players get discussed less. For the incredibly obvious reason that there are loads of Irish members on Irish-owned redcafe.net, who couldn’t give much of a shite about the latest prospect from Finland/Iceland/England/Kazakhstan. All of which is absolutely fine my me!
Was at both games and he was ok. Amazing for an 18 year old but just ok in terms of his actual contribution.
As mentioned by a previous poster he doesn’t seem too mobile as of yet and while he still has loads of developing to do - I’m not convinced he is the starting striker we are crying out for.
Still an amazing prospect for us Ireland fans. The crowd love him already and it’s great to have a top player coming through playing for agood premiere league side. If Micky Johnston can get into that Celtic side next season - things will be looking up!
As mentioned by a previous poster he doesn’t seem too mobile as of yet and while he still has loads of developing to do - I’m not convinced he is the starting striker we are crying out for.
Still an amazing prospect for us Ireland fans. The crowd love him already and it’s great to have a top player coming through playing for agood premiere league side. If Micky Johnston can get into that Celtic side next season - things will be looking up!
At 18 he should be at his most mobile?
He is bulky though - could see him still toning up a bit more and maybe gaining a yard. Like I said - for an 18 year old he doesn’t look out of place at all…but at Utd we need someone for the here and now that genuinely takes us up a level. It’s definitely not this kid imo.
As an Ireland fan - we are bloody lucky to have him.
Yeah we either need a young CF who is ready become a major striker in Europe (but not yet top class) or the finished product.
It's still happening though, people are hyped and then fail to deliver, nothing wrong with it as we are dealing with scraps most of the time, but it does happen.
This. Kane has started to to slow down slightly (having never been the quickest compared to, say, a Rashford type), but by all accounts he was definitely more mobile at 21/22 and through into his mid 20s than at 18, due to diet/general conditioning. With the right coaching and self-discipline (and luck, with injuries and the rest), Ferguson has a shot of making that kind of level, especially with his existing short hold-up play, instinctive movement into space and strength - even the other stuff, like Kane's long passing playmaking and first-time release passes down the channels only really started to come to the fore when he was about 24, so EF has time to develop.
He looks to me to have football intelligence, plus the physique to become something special. Sign him up
Richard Dunne was awesome. Much better than Harry Maguire but not as good as Vidic.
I think I remember he beat the speed record at Everton.
A real warrior old school defender but actually good on the ball too.
I haven't seen enough to judge his ceiling. He might just be a solid lower mid level PL striker.
The standards so high in the PL, that's still a good level.
He's perfect for Ireland cos his hold up play is very good which we need. Also he's good in the air. He seems to have real natural body strength which will actually improve.
Good close control also.
Would make a big difference for him to get the right coaching, diet, physical work etc now
Who was the last player or sprinter who was ever at his fastest or most mobile at 18 (Rooney perhaps?)? Look at how much faster Ronaldo was at 25 than at 18. You only start to lose those fast muscle fibres after 25, but because of training, stronger muscles, running technique etc, most sprinters are at their best at 30 or higher. I'd argue Robben was faster at 32-33 than he was at 22-23.
It depends what you want. He's not as mobile as Hojlund and I don't agree that he's agile like one poster has said - he looks heavy on his feet even if he's quite fast once he's built up a head of steam but he's a good presser, holds the ball up well and is a great finisher. One thing that stands out for me for someone so young is that he's a shot monster, takes almost double the amount of shots/90 than Greenwood did in his age 17 season but unlike him he mostly takes his shots from good positions. He's also very good at not giving the ball away. He's also a bit aerial presence already and you can see that he will turn into a beast once he gets his man strength as he's already tough enough to handle himself against physically imposing defenders like Saliba and Konaté
I think he's getting well coached to be fair - he's miles ahead of most lads 3-4 years older than him in that position from a tactical point of view.