European football next season | United - Europa League, Chelsea - Conference League, wee club in the north-east - feck all!

It’s fantastic quality, perfect HD, get Sat 3pm games, films that have come out at the cinema in the last month and never buffered. And cost £20.

So I hear.

Your idea of perfect quality and mine might be very different. I watch TV on very large high end screens. The bandwidth of a pirate IPTV stream will never come close to that of a sat feed. That's why you don't see any 4K IPTV (or didn't maybe I'm out of date).
 
They should have done that as well this season. Fact is, only four English teams will start in next seasons CL because they fecked up. There is no guarantee that they will perform as expected next season. It's surely more probable than not, but I wouldn't trust in that.
There are 7 English teams in Europe this season against 8 from Italy and Germany

CL - Liverpool, City and Arsenal should all go deep 1/4 final to potential winners
EL - Spurs and Man United without teams being relegated from CL should both go deep No Madrid, No Barcelona, No Bayern no Juventus, no inter, AC Milan, No PSG none of those teams can be relegated no Atlanta no Bologna
Both teams should go deep

ECL - Chelsea reserves could win that and they have 33 players to rotate and give game time too?
There is a reason that English clubs have only finished outside the top 2 in ye last 12 years three times, 75% chance they get the extra place this time.
 
Surely this guy has this completely wrong, we would go in to the Conference League instead of the Europa and Newcastle would still get nothing.

Tbe co-ownership issue will only apparently become an issue if Sir Jim ups his stake to 30% or more over the summer anyway.

 
Surely this guy has this completely wrong, we would go in to the Conference League instead of the Europa and Newcastle would still get nothing.

Tbe co-ownership issue will only apparently become an issue if Sir Jim ups his stake to 30% or more over the summer anyway.


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With no CL teams dropping into the Europa anymore, we're massive favorites to win it next season.
 


With no CL teams dropping into the Europa anymore, we're massive favorites to win it next season.

I personally wouldn't rate United currently much above Roma. They just have been much better in Europe recently. But those two I would definitely see as favourites on par.
 
Are we? Based on what?
The coefficient which is calculated from the results of the past five years allows to see how strong clubs have recently performed. United clearly being second in that ranking is a pretty good indicator.
 
I personally wouldn't rate United currently much above Roma. They just have been much better in Europe recently. But those two I would definitely see as favourites on par.

I didn't even consider the coefficients. Roma are no better off in a weaker league than we are in the PL.

I think United and Spurs are way better than any other team here, maybe Bilbao and Sociedad are the 3rd and 4th favorites for me.

United will also strengthen more in the summer than any of these teams can.
 
Ineos confident of Man Utd-Nice Europa League solution

Ineos is "confident" of finding a solution that allows Manchester United and Nice to compete in next season's Europa League. Uefa rules restrict the influence any organisation can have over more than one club in the same competition. An independent panel will rule on the matter before next season's competition starts in the middle of July with the qualifying rounds.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz77d910jkdo
 
Is it just me or is there only one Spanish team in those groups? That would certainly bode well for a trophy lift if we can avoid our Achilles heel!
How does it work? 2 games from each pot to make up the 8 games in the group? And if I'm right we can play Spurs at any point as well can't we?
 
Is it just me or is there only one Spanish team in those groups? That would certainly bode well for a trophy lift if we can avoid our Achilles heel!
It's just you, as I see two: Athletic Club (Bilbao) in Pot 3 and Real Sociedad in Pot 2
 
How is it possible for Ranger to be in Pot 1 and Spanish teams are in Pot 2 and 3?

For Man Utd we will be the heavy favourite. Another route to CL next year. Go for it!
 
How is it possible for Ranger to be in Pot 1 and Spanish teams are in Pot 2 and 3?
By playing several solid seasons. The last five count, Rangers got these club coefficient points in those:
11.0015.0019.004.0014.00

Sociedad only became a successful club in Europe recently (didn't play in Europe five years ago):
8.009.0016.0018.00

Bilbao haven't played in Europe at all in the last five seasons, they are only in pot three due to the country coefficient.
 
I hope we’re in a position where we have enough squad depth that we can rotate can keep key players fresh or at least take them of if winning.

I know the current manager plays a regular 11 but his generally claimed it’s due to lack of depth. If we get the players in we need I think we can give squad/youth players like Gore and Kambwala games.
 
We could still end up the Conference League at this point, if we do it wont be the best but at least it'll still be European football and we'll play 2 less games as you only play 6 games in the Conference League League stage while you play 8 in the other 2 competitions.
 
going from that projected pots what do you guys see as a possible 'Group of Death';

BTW this media Ratcliffe / conference story is a load of clickbait nonsense, we will be in the Europa.

i'll go with;

Utd, Sociedad, Hoffenheim, Besiktas
 
Not arrogant, but looking at the Pot 1, we are the clear favourite by far.

I agree, the only thing I'd add is Spurs can be the other big favorite or even the odds-on favorite depending on their transfer business. However, I don't think they can strengthen more than we can in one summer.

Still, it's only them who are on our level from this list and people are seriously overrating other leagues, and underrating United when they say the likes of Roma are on par with us.
 
going from that projected pots what do you guys see as a possible 'Group of Death';

BTW this media Ratcliffe / conference story is a load of clickbait nonsense, we will be in the Europa.

i'll go with;

Utd, Sociedad, Hoffenheim, Besiktas
Lyon from Pot 2 and Athletic Bilbao from Pot 3 are also tough potential opponents.
 
going from that projected pots what do you guys see as a possible 'Group of Death';

BTW this media Ratcliffe / conference story is a load of clickbait nonsense, we will be in the Europa.

i'll go with;

Utd, Sociedad, Hoffenheim, Besiktas

Its not really groups its random fixtures generated digitally with each team being given a fixture against 2 other teams from each of the 4 pots and you cant play teams from your own country but can play up to 2 teams from 1 other country so from pot 1 for example we cant be given a fixture against Spurs but could be given a fixture against Roma or Lazio from pot 1 and also a fixture against Fiorentina from pot 2.
 
I still have no idea how this all works

We play 8 matches against 8 different teams (4 home and 4 away)

Do all the teams within our 8 just play each other or could they play different teams within the wider group of 36?
 
I still have no idea how this all works

We play 8 matches against 8 different teams (4 home and 4 away)

Do all the teams within our 8 just play each other or could they play different teams within the wider group of 36?

No we play 2 randomly chosen teams (1 home and 1 away) from each of the 4 pots, we cant play Spurs but can play up to 2 teams from the same country.
 
I still have no idea how this all works

We play 8 matches against 8 different teams (4 home and 4 away)

Do all the teams within our 8 just play each other or could they play different teams within the wider group of 36?
Everybody plays different teams and there is one "league table" for all of them, it's not a group stage any more. And then the best teams of this league table enter the knockout stage.
 
The coefficient which is calculated from the results of the past five years allows to see how strong clubs have recently performed. United clearly being second in that ranking is a pretty good indicator.

Yeah apologies, I didn’t realise how it worked and we couldn’t play spurs in the first bit.
Seems a bit convoluted but we’ll see how it works out.
 
A possible fixture list for us from the pots in the screenshot if we are in this competition could be:-

From Pot 1

Porto - Home

Roma - Away

From Pot 2

Real Sociadad - Home

Fiorentina - Away

From Pot 3

Hoffenheim - Home

Athletic Bilbao -Away

From Pot 4

Anderlecht - Home

Besiktas -Away
 
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A possible fixture list for us if we are in this competition could be:-

From Pot 1

Porto - Home

Roma - Away

From Pot 2

Real Sociadad - Home

Fiorentina - Away

From Pot 3

Hoffenheim - Home

Athletic Bilbao -Away

From Pot 4

Anderlecht - Home

Besiktas -Away

We best hire a good manager otherwise we wouldn’t last long with them fixtures based on last years performances.
 


With no CL teams dropping into the Europa anymore, we're massive favorites to win it next season.


Slavia Prague (away)
Roma
Lyon
Salzburg (away)
Athletic Club
Union SG (away)
Twente (away)
Besiktas

Would be my preference.

Some good away trips and also some decent home marches to look forward to.
 
We best hire a good manager otherwise we wouldn’t last long with them fixtures based on last years performances.

Those were just guesses based on the pots in the screenshot, the pots in the screenshot are incorrect though as they have guessed to qualifying round winners and Fiorentina are listed despite not actually qualifying for this competition.
 
Why there is an issue with us and Nice, while City and Girona is not? Or Uefa is investigating that as well? Am I missing something really obvious?
 
Why is United and Nice being in the same competition an issue when we had Red Bull Leipzig and Salzburg in the CL this season? Not to mention City and Girona next.
 
Why is United and Nice being in the same competition an issue when we had Red Bull Leipzig and Salzburg in the CL this season? Not to mention City and Girona next.
RB actually was forced to take organisational measures when both qualified together for the first time for the CL. How effective these are I don't know, but they definitely had to reduce their ties.

People involved with both clubs at the same time is an issue. So if currently people are sniffing around at United who usually work for Nice that could be a problem.