Europa League Final | Atalanta vs Leverkusen | Match thread

This being the first Leverkusen match I've seen all season:

German football is turd?
 
Hoof the ball said:
I swear that I read this every other week.

Pep has won 24 of the 27 finals he's been involved in.

That's an 88.8% finals record over nearly thirty games.

Where does the overthinking Pep idea stem from, because it sure isn't from the stats.
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Just one of those redcafe-things.
 
kouroux said:
From what I've watched, Leverkusen needs a central striker. They're getting easily stopped by Atalanta
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I'm smarter than Xabi Alonso. Maybe I should try my hand at this "football manager" malarkey :lol:
 
Hoof the ball said:
I swear that I read this every other week.

Pep has won 24 of the 27 finals he's been involved in.

That's an 88.8% finals record over nearly thirty games.

Where does the overthinking Pep idea stem from, because it sure isn't from the stats.
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Probably from one of his biggest games of his career. A CL final against Chelsea where he dropped his DM. Where as every other game he played. He could and should have 2 CL now with city
 
Alonso not putting a striker has just let Atalanta press them high up the park with no outlet.

This is like when Pep used to do mental line ups in big games and f*ck it.
 
Alonso overthinking this and it's costing him. There is zero presence in the center and Atalanta are eating up any balls forward. Really need to get either Schick or Boniface in there and Hofmann.

Alonso has rode his luck all season with those comebacks and it's made him arrogant. It's similar to the overthinking Pep used to in his early days at City.
 
Xabi doesn't just want to win, he wants to win in style. This is nothing new.
 
Cheech Wizard said:
They have one in Schick. But Alonso has gone in ‘Pep the overthinker’ mode and left him out.
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hasanejaz88 said:
Alonso overthinking this and it's costing him. There is zero presence in the center and Atalanta are eating up any balls forward. Really need to get either Schick or Boniface in there and Hofmann.

Alonso has rode his luck all season with those comebacks and it's made him arrogant. It's similar to the overthinking Pep used to in his early days at City.
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Seems like it. Pep did something crazy like this but with a different player in Rodri in a CL final
 
I'm tired, so i don't feel like overthinking much right now.
 
hasanejaz88 said:
Alonso overthinking this and it's costing him. There is zero presence in the center and Atalanta are eating up any balls forward. Really need to get either Schick or Boniface in there and Hofmann.

Alonso has rode his luck all season with those comebacks and it's made him arrogant. It's similar to the overthinking Pep used to in his early days at City.
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Atalanta are a good team.
 
1 bad half from Leverkusen and people have already started to say that their 51-games undefeated streak is extremely overrated :(
 
hasanejaz88 said:
Alonso overthinking this and it's costing him. There is zero presence in the center and Atalanta are eating up any balls forward. Really need to get either Schick or Boniface in there and Hofmann.

Alonso has rode his luck all season with those comebacks and it's made him arrogant. It's similar to the overthinking Pep used to in his early days at City.
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There it is again.

24 wins in 27 finals for Pep tells me that the overthinking Pep thing is a myth.

If he is overthinking with a record better than anyone else, then everyone else must be overthinking as much, or more than he does.
 
Really enjoying the first half as a neutral, neither of them got my sympathy but at least they play football and avoiding to try be divas. We can talk about the quality but it's been a while I saw a match so open in the EL. The second half should be crazy if both of them keep this way of playing, almost no tactics at all I would say. Lovely
 
Gasperini is very underrated, he has done an amazing job with atalanta, not just in terms of achieving ucl and europa league football for atalanta but even the style of football his side plays, it was only a few seasons back that they were right up there as the most exciting attacking sides in europe
 
Markolan said:
1 bad half from Leverkusen and people have already started to say that their 51-games undefeated streak is extremely overrated :(
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I mean, the entire season will be just mediocre if they lose today. Which is why they won't.
 
it'll be tough for atalanta to keep up this same level of defensive pressure for a full 90
 
Terrific performance from Atalanta so far. I watched them a few times including in the europa league semis and I'm not surprised they're doing well tonight.

Leverkusen can't be counted out though. Alonso needs to make tactical changes.
 
I think it's actually a case of Atalanta having made Leverkusen look shaky and nervous and it got to them. It's a case of Atalanta having been great. Leverkusen have buckled because Atalanta made them buckle.
 
People not giving Atalanta enough credit. Don't like this narrative that Leverkusen have 'messed it up'

Atalanta have been fantastic.
 
Hoof the ball said:
There it is again.

24 wins in 27 finals for Pep tells me that the overthinking Pep thing is a myth.

If he is overthinking with a record better than anyone else, then everyone else must be overthinking as much, or more than he does.
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I think the issue is that one time when everyone understandably wondered what the feck was he thinking.
 
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