Because Gibraltar is an English territory while the other islands are just British.
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Because Gibraltar is an English territory while the other islands are just British.
By voting leave, we don't turn our backs on globalisation and competition. Leaving the EU doesn't mean a stop to immigration, a block to international competition to our companies and workers.
This whole, I was there before the EU and things were better, that a lot of older people trot out is complete nonsense. Back then we lived in a more racist society, workers had a lot fewer rights, the environment was dying a lot quicker than it is now and unemployment was actually higher.
Either way, the changes, good and bad, are not purely down to the EU.
Not liking all this confidence that remain has it in the bag. It's the kind of mood that might drive lower turnouts later in the day and give leave momentum.
It could have the same affect on leavers too tbf.
After going back and forth for past month, having no one on the leave campaign been able to put to rest my economic concerns, but no one on the stay campaign has been able to quell my immigration concerns.
Ive been called racist for voting out, i've been called not British for voting in..... the whole thing has been disgusting when all most people are trying to do is figure out whats right and vote that way, and all you get in return most of the time is hate and abuse from both sides!
so i just don't know, and i'm not gonna pretend i do, so I'm not gonna vote.
Ive been called racist for voting out, i've been called not British for voting in..... the whole thing has been disgusting when all most people are trying to do is figure out whats right and vote that way, and all you get in return most of the time is hate and abuse from both sides!
so i just don't know, and i'm not gonna pretend i do, so I'm not gonna vote.
Just checked and it says his birth year is 1949... apologies if calling that elderly offends any of our older and wiser posters on the CAF
No offence taken but , I just wondered if he lived in the same world as I did, thankfully I am a few years younger than him .Not many people went to university, unemployment was terrible, the country was in a mess, immigrants coming in from the commonwealth, rinse and repeat. - this is the 60s. I remember in the mid/late 70s buying my first flat, weekly shopping was £10 for a family of 3. £5 filled up you car with petrol and I still could barely afford the mortgage of £49/month despite having a good job.
Spoil your vote.
When is a first projection expected?
I'm 22, and I haven't voted for anything since I've been 18 as I haven't really had much interest in politics.
I've been pushed into making a vote this time, and now I'm glad I have. Definitely seems the most important vote I'll need to do for a very long time.
To me, it's a no-brainer.
I've been pushed into making a vote this time, and now I'm glad I have. Definitely seems the most important vote I'll need to do for a very long time.
To me, it's a no-brainer.
Welcome to the club
Make sure you vote though, even if it's to spoil your ballot.
I've done my bit.
There are going to be 2 polls released at 10pm. Actual results are expected around 7am tomorrow.
that sounds like a planWelcome to the club
Make sure you vote though, even if it's to spoil your ballot.
Thanks!
Looking on oddschecker and the Remain odds are now averaging around 1/8 and 1/9. Looks more and more likely we're definitely staying at this stage, Leave odds drifting.
If it helps, our annual migration accounts for a population rise of 0.5% ... which really isn't an uncontrollable amount. Also, as most of our immigration comes from outside the EU, we have to sort out our own countries immigration policy, as opposed to simply blaming the EU.
Lots of Chicken counting going on in here
I read something yesterday, in the FT I think, that said we should have a clear idea by about 3.30am tomorrow morning, unless it it very, very close. Then we'll have seen what way enough marginal areas are going to see the broader trend.
Pound's losing some of it's earlier gains
Yeah, that's part of where I'm struggling to understand the Leave camp's argument. We're not restricted by the EU when it comes to non-EU immigration...yet it's still well over 100,000. So how would leaving the EU act as a fix towards that? I'm not sure it's been explained well, if at all.
The odds on a Brexit are falling too... was about 6/1 half an hour ago and now it's more like 4/1.
Surely any fluctuations in betting odds at this stage are based purley on betting patterns, given the lack of exit polls?
Don't worry, you can get a lubricated splint from the chemist for that.
Trading companies and bookies have undertaken private polls.
Its because its actually not really about stopping immigration, its about finding a scapegoat to deflect working class anger away from the politicians who have cut their services.
That's why Boris and everyone else who is asked directly refuses to actually say they will cut immigration to the tens of thousands level they say they want if they get control of their borders. They only say that is what they would like to do.
Its because once they get control (if they do) theyll be faced with the reality that we need hard working immigrants to come in, work, pay taxes and pay the pensions for our aging population.
Seems the latest suggesting it's not over, given the sudden changes in the odds and sterling.
I'm expecting leave to win, as someone who lives in a safe Tory seat where local elections are usually uncontested it's nice to feel like my vote's worth something for once though.
Hedge funds are conducting their own exit polls.
US jobless figures were good so that accounts for some of that (Euro fell against $US too).
Yes for sure, I'm keeping an eye on the £/€ that is a clearer indication for this vote, this has gone back to roughly what it was this morning
The result is going to be announced in Manchester Town Hall apparently. Might pop down if the result is likely to be favourable.
All the UK major indices are trading up at the moment as are the major markets across the world.
Market vols for GBP suggest its remain.
Looks that way at the moment
Still a relatively large £ rise and 1/6 odds from 1/4 this morning
Indeed. Already slipping back again to 1/7 or 1/8 with most.
Same.
I think this is the first time in my life me and my MP have ever been on the same side of anything.
no one at ours apart from me & 3 bored-looking Polling Official persons,
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1-0 to REMAIN
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