Etienne Capoue to Spurs?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Big amateur WUM who wants to be Storey.
You were very interested in Modric last summer, but he only wanted to go to Chelsea.
Because we weren't in the market for a CM for some reason and went for Kagawa and van Persie instead. Turned out to be a good piece of business looking at a league table.
You were in for Moutinho but refused to pay Porto's asking price which wasn't far off from what you offered, you ended up outisde CL once again. And Monaco didn't even have this sort of money last year, they were only in for him this year after you messed it up last time.
Bollocks you weren't. You were interested in yet another unattainable player, namely Modric.
It's amusing that our failure to sign Moutinho is a source from criticism you when, as I've said, we've still made several successful moves to improve our CM whilst your successful attempts are a big fat zero so far.
How do you even know that? We've barely been linked with Modric, ever. Another ITK of yours?
And why do you use CM as some separate criteria? We've improved the team all over the pitch by going for quality footballers. Congratulations, you've won the we signed more midfielders than you trophy, now you can go back to enjoying the Europa League football.
Google is your friend ... to give just one means of finding abundant linkage.
As for the rest, this thread is about a CM and the whole discussion so far has been about CMs. But I'll understand if you wish to change the subject.
Papers have linked us with every player on the planet by now, it's no proof of anything. We know for sure we were in for Hazard and Lucas last Summer, nothing else.
Our policy of going after top quality players who can improve the team doesn't limit to CM only, it stretches to the whole sides and gives good results. There are lots of reasons why we've not signed a CM over the last years, most of them are very questionable and all United fans admit it, stop going about your superiority in that aspect though since our way has got us the title while yours could't even get you a CL spot in spite of amazing midfield.
Maybe the same one who told him Bale had already signed a new contract at Spurs?
It was because i said that Kagawa was on a similar level to Bale which was true before the start of the 2012/2013 season, and you could probably have argued Kagawa was better, however Bale took his game to a whole new level and is the better player now.
To be fair Spurs CM is stronger then ours. Capoue is a great signing.
Sorry dude, bed time called last night!
I'm pretty sure we were interested, but as soon as Roman entered the race, we were never going to enter a bidding war - that's not how we operate. So we weren't exactly "turned down", we simply didn't proceed and formalise our interest.
Glaston's so full of shit, it's a struggle to assess when he's being truthful or just wumming. It's amusing though. He's thick-skinned, credit to him for that.
You may say that but in the meantime every season is a blank sheet and there's no guarantee that United will finish top 4 or even stay in the league next May and Spurs have been improving their CM every month.
What is the actual arguement here?
Glaston being his usual 'Spurs are so amazing while United are deluded and shite' self and criticising United for not going for the likes of Paulinho and pursuing better players instead. Also, he reckons Paulinho is already a PL star.
Ah, and then we finish above his lot in the league (again) and he goes into hiding until the next round of transfer rumours start.
To be fair, Spurs do have an impressive central midfield, although they could use a craftsman to knit it together. I've said before I'm a big Tom Carroll fan, and he could be that man. There are also a lot of rumours linking them to Pjanic, who could do a similar role. They do seem to have more brawn than brains in the middle though.
If they hold on to Bale (and get Pjanic) I'd say on paper their team is as good as any in the league. That said, they'll probably find a way to feck up when they draw 8 out 10 games from February onwards.
More lies from you. Only the bolded part is actually correct, if expressed in a distorted manner.
This. I'd take any of Sandro, Dembele or Paulinho. Capoue i'm less sure on, he looked a nice player for Toulouse but still not convinced what his best position is. He'll be a decent signing for Spurs though as it gives them a bit of insurance in CB with dodgy Dawsons injury record.
You used Paulinho as an example of a good midfielder you signed when pete accused you of signing crap ones, it's not really a lie that you've been hyping him up beyond belief for the past couple of months (well, from the moment he signed as you probably didn't know he existed before).
Europa League.
It's this:
In response to another poster I had said that Paulinho is a part of Brazil's first XI. A statement that is simply true.
Sarni then wades in to say: "Paulinho failed at LKS Lodz, you need to see him play in PL first before you can proclaim him a quality midfielder." .... even though I had merely made a true statement (not an opinion) and have already said that it remains to be seen how well he'll adapt to the Prem.
Sarni then continues to pretty much write off Paulinho - motivated by reasons best known to himself, but which we can suspect stem merely from a desire to attack any post that I make and/or to compensate for United's lack of CM signings.
When I pointed out that at least Spurs have signed some CMs, whilst United have not and might have done better to focus on targets like Paulinho (or Gustavo or others) rather than pursue 'big name' targets, Sarni then takes his attacks into ever widening spirals.
This in a nutshell is what the argument is about ... although it's an argument almost entirely of Sarni's making and desire to have an argument about something/anything.
We've not been signing midfielders because we aim for top quality ones that'll improve us, no point signing someone who isn't better than Cleverley and Carrick.
You've used Paulinho as an example of a good midfielder that you signed in response to pete's post, you've also used him as an example of the sort of player United should go for numerous times even though he hasn't played in a good league and you've probably watched him about twice. For all you know he could be a big fail. After hyping up virtually every player you've ever signed you should have worked out by now that half of them turn out to be pretty crap. But that's you again, it was hilarious in January how you hyped up Holtby who came from Schalke just six months after downplaying the signing of Kagawa from Dortmund. Players suddenly turn shite when they sign for someone else than Spurs or they're unproven but the minute they get to Spurs they are the best in the world in their position.
You've used Paulinho as an example of a good midfielder that you signed in response to pete's post, you've also used him as an example of the sort of player United should go for numerous times even though he hasn't played in a good league and you've probably watched him about twice. For all you know he could be a big fail. After hyping up virtually every player you've ever signed you should have worked out by now that half of them turn out to be pretty crap. But that's you again, it was hilarious in January how you hyped up Holtby who came from Schalke just six months after downplaying the signing of Kagawa from Dortmund. Players suddenly turn shite when they sign for someone else than Spurs or they're unproven but the minute they get to Spurs they are the best in the world in their position.
This is all just more distortions and crap from you. I say again, I cited Paulinho in response to Pete's post by stating a fact, namely that's he's part of Brazil's 1st XI ... whether that makes him crap or not crap is up to the reader to decide.
The latest lie that I've 'hyped up Holtby' when in fact I've barely mentioned him.
I can't be bothered with your tiresome shit anymore. If you think that Paulinho's not a good player, that's fine. So why don't you now feck off to some thread concerning United's latest marquee signing.
Two guns up from Glaston I must say. Points seem valid enough. I doubt many United fans would be dissapointed if we went after Little Pauly this summer to be fair.
I think you have a potentially title-challenging team if you keep Bale tbh.
A line up of:
-------------------Lloris-----------------
-Walker--Kaboul---Vertonghen---Rose/Ekotto
--------------Sandro/Capoue------------
---Dembele----------------Paulinho------
Lennon/Chadli------------------------Bale---
------------------Soldado-------------
With the likes of Dawson, Sandro/Capoue, Lennon/Chadli on the bench is very strong. I'd think you could use one or two more in the squad, and if you get Pjanic you will be very strong.
Spurs are very unlikely to keep Bale though, and you never know how their players will settle. They appear to have done very good business though, and they are a team I'll look forward to watching.
I think you have a potentially title-challenging team if you keep Bale tbh.
A line up of:
-------------------Lloris-----------------
-Walker--Kaboul---Vertonghen---Rose/Ekotto
--------------Sandro/Capoue------------
---Dembele----------------Paulinho------
Lennon/Chadli------------------------Bale---
------------------Soldado-------------
With the likes of Dawson, Sandro/Capoue, Lennon/Chadli on the bench is very strong. I'd think you could use one or two more in the squad, and if you get Pjanic you will be very strong.
Spurs are very unlikely to keep Bale though, and you never know how their players will settle. They appear to have done very good business though, and they are a team I'll look forward to watching.
He probably would, only you'd still be in there, being a ballbag.
Behave. They'll challenge for Top 4, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them take one of those Champions League places, but they aren't even close to challenging for a title.
To be fair TN, they were keeping up with us 2 years ago until it got to February. Last season they had a poor start which cost them. They've strengthened their squad and more importantly their first team since then. I think they'll keep up the pace but injuries will cost them in the end. They need another CF and a first team Winger to replace Lennon, who is far too injury prone.
I think with the current squads they'll finish ahead of Arsenal though.
Spurs need a better backup striker incase soldado doesnt adapt or gets injured. Preferably someone who can operate on the wings as well as upfront(Bale maybe if they get a new winger). If they manage to do this and bale replicates last season then they can challenge for the title in theory but wont as the rest of the top 3 has better first XI on paper.
More interesting then their midfield should be who will replace Bale. What's the alternative on the left wing? Holtby?
Oh look! It's the Witchfinder General, on temporary leave from endlessly trawling through threads to sniff out the slightest whiff of heresy - i.e. any United fan daring to say anything critical about Moyes or United's transfer policy this summer.
What's up? Have you run out of people to argue with?
I'm not sure that is necessarily the case, or at least cannot be confirmed until we see how their new players adapt.
That said, they have the best wide man (or whatever you want to call Bale) in the League, Vertonghen was probably the best centre-half in the league last season, and in Soldado, they have brought in a striker with a similar goalscoring record to Persie in recent seasons. The supporting cast around those players are also very good, and generally amongst the league's best in most people's opinion in their position (Lloris, Dembele, Walker - the latter of whom I don't really rate admittedly). Their central midfield is very strong too.
I think if football was played on paper, their first XI is now probably as good as ours. I fully expect us to finish above them though.
No, I just found it funny that as a way of avoiding you, you'd send him to the threads you've spent all summer in.
So they'll probably finish fourth, and won't challenge for the title, then?
If only i'd have said that......
Our fullbacks are better imo, Vidic still remains one of the best CBs in the world. Carrick is better than anyone they have in midfield and we have two great strikers. Persie and Rooney while they only have soldado right now, who is unproven in the league. So our squad is marginally better if we just compared individual players but united have always been more about the team than the individuals. Plus our squad absolutely destroys their's although they have an edge managerial wise.
Should be an interesting season.
I fully agree with that, and expect us to finish above them. I think that while Carrick is better, or at least was better than all of their midfielders last season (I think Dembele has the capacity to reach his level at least), as a unit, they have a stronger midfield I think.
Overall, I don't think personnel wise, there is much between them, and I think Fergie could win the League for us with their team, and it would probably be nowhere near the worst collection of players to have won it either.
Agree with all of that. A lot depends upon injuries I think but still we should be okay going into the season.
Vertonghen was in no shape or form the best center half the league last season.
The only Spurs players I would take are Bale and Dembele. We are better in every other area
On the contrary, he was probably in every shape or form, the best centre-half in the league last season. He made the team of the season too, it is hardly a controversial claim.