If Patrick Bamford can score 13 goals (possibly more before season end) in the EPL, I'd wager Haaland and Lewa could do a bit better. Maybe not 30+ but certainly 20+ is within reality, with or without taking penalties. What would United look like right now with a routine 20+ league goal scorer at forward?
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Against Bayern? He had 20. Not good, but he still got 2 goals. He had 21 touches against Arminia too, not sure if thats down to Dortmunds tactics or the player himself.
Cavani had similar level of touches against Palace and West Brom though.
The Haller and Werner comparisons apply more to Sancho who has shown little of note outside the Bundesliga. Haaland's phenomenal CL record proves he will score truckloads wherever he goes.
Fair enough. Would be interesting to see how he fits into a team that dominates the ball. No doubt about his quality though, has great movement and finishing.
Bundesliga somewhat skews some stats as the defence in that league is shocking.
Heard on talk radio that now that Laporta is at Barsa, there's a good chance that they go all in with Haaland. Laporta aparently has a very good relationship with Raiola and has no qualms about paying huge agent commissions.
Barsa shouldn't have the money for an operation like this, but their line of credit is bottomless it seems.
Barsa shouldn't have the money for an operation like this, but their line of credit is bottomless it seems.
You would have to think they will be restricted in this area this summer.
I despise the vile leach Raiola however I'd give him one last United pay day if it meant getting Haaland.
So many stories about Haaland leaving this summer in last 5-6 days... Clearly, Raiola's already working on it.
Watching that with subtitles on was quite amusing, YouTube subtitles are often way off but Jane Sancho and Ellen Holland made me chuckle.
Edit: Bruce Dormand and further on Mario Godzilla
who does the subtitles for YouTube?!They're broke, there's no way they can afford the fee nor the wages.
or Arse
Pretty much
Add his CL conversion rate to the numbers and it gets even better: 16 goals in 25 non-penalty shots on target (64%) is insane. Or 16 goals in 42 non-penalty shots total (38%).
There's a ton of difference between 1,7 (59%) and 2,2/2,4 (41-45%) conversion rate by the way. Besides all the players you compare numbers with takes penalties and there is a lot of other factors playing in.
Haaland's finishing this season has been fantastic, and in the same ballpark as it has been since he moved to Salzburg. He has consistantly beaten his xG with 20-35% in all competitions.
Lewandowski is having a career best season, beating his xG with around 25%. Lewandowski has scored on par with his xG on average through out his career, and has taken his finishing to the next level only the last 2 seasons, after turning 30.
His goal per shot on target ratio is even higher in the CL, both for Dortmund and for Salzburg, and it is the same for the national team as well. Can you come up with a smart "excuse" for this?
I think all these numbers suggests he is an elite finisher with the ability to get into great scoring positions and shake his marker more often than others. That he consistantly beats his xG with 20-35% in all competitions he plays supports the theory that he is an absolute elite finisher.
If we're talking stats (percentile numbers):
npG: 99th
npXG: 99th
Shots: 86th
xA: 90th
npXG+xA: 99th
Touches in oppo penalty box: 84th
These are offset by frankly some terrible stats in terms of pressures (doesn't run around a lot), passes / touches in def / middle 3rd of the pitch (doesn't really help with build up), dispossessed (a lot) and carries (not a great ball carrier).
https://fbref.com/en/players/1f44ac21/scout/365_euro/Erling-Haaland-Scouting-Report
You just have to build your team around getting the ball to Haaland in and around the box and he'll put it in the net for you. He doesn't really have the vibe of a City / Barca type player.
I don't get arguments like this. Torres was great at Liverpool and extremely bad for Chelsea. It's not all down to the league, players perform differently in other clubs especially if it is a step up, not to mention that it's still a bit early to make any judgement.
Also you examples don't include Aubameyang who is a pure counter attacking striker that didn't have any problems to adapt to the EPL.
People who genuinely think there is any significant difference between the top leagues is just deluding themselves.
Imagine spanish posters arguing that the EPL is bad because Hazard doesn't perform in LaLiga while a washed up Bale is again scoring for fun in the EPL.
He wouldn't have to score one goal pr game - but is it completely unrealistic that he would score the extra goal we need against Everton, a couple of goals against Sheffield United, the extra goal against WBA, a goal against Chelsea and Arsenal.
Those 7-8 extra goals would have taken us to the top of the table. I am not saying it would have happened - but if we had a striker who scored 15 goals - we would not be more than max 3-4 points behind City.
I know you guys don't like Riola but if he gets a nice fat payday from you signing Haaland, he's more likely to be on your side when it comes to Pogba staying.
No they aren't. Laporta has an alledged €800mil credit facility agreed for Barcelona. Was a key part of his campaign win. Now he has to pony up and show the money.
Think he'd rather take him to City than us, bigger money and it would wind United up
It would get him bigger money this time but also be a more difficult club to move him on from again in a few years.
Unfortunately, as much as we might want to - we can't just refuse to do business with Raiola. He has been allowed to run his operation for too long now and has become an ingrained part of the system. It'll take legislation to curb his influence on transfers.
I think our current trend of doing the necessary business with him and causing a fuss/drawing media attention to his activity is the only way we can prompt UEFA to act without damaging the clubs transfer activity.
Edit: so a long winded way of saying...get Haaland.
I think our current trend of doing the necessary business with him and causing a fuss/drawing media attention to his activity is the only way we can prompt UEFA to act without damaging the clubs transfer activity.
Edit: so a long winded way of saying...get Haaland.
Raiola is a massive pain, but I think Haaland is just plain good enough that we have to suck it up and deal with him. The lad is a generational talent and would be an incredible fit for our team. Him and Rice would be my top two priorities.
He won’t care as long as he gets paid.
If a player does well at Man City - does it seem like a club that will make it easy for you to leave when you want even when you are in good form?
I just ask because Haaland is very obviously a player that wants to spend some time in the PL and then make a move to spend some time in La Liga once he has accomplished well in the PL. Maybe after that he joins Serie A or Ligue 1.
He has said this himself hasnt he? He wants to play in the PL and La Liga in his career?
Haaland isnt going to stay at a club for a decade like someone like Aguero or David Silva. I'm not particularly sure City will buy Haaland and allow him to leave the club after 4-6 seasons of good form.
United however has done this - sold players like Ronaldo after being the best in the world, sold Di Maria when he was unsettled but still producing in some of his games etc. Even Lukaku was scoring goals for us even if he wasnt settled.
City only let their relative flops/players they dont need leave the club in my opinion for example Sane, Dzeko, Angelino etc.
I'm not sure Raiola/Haaland can do his thing at Man City.
I just ask because Haaland is very obviously a player that wants to spend some time in the PL and then make a move to spend some time in La Liga once he has accomplished well in the PL. Maybe after that he joins Serie A or Ligue 1.
He has said this himself hasnt he? He wants to play in the PL and La Liga in his career?
Haaland isnt going to stay at a club for a decade like someone like Aguero or David Silva. I'm not particularly sure City will buy Haaland and allow him to leave the club after 4-6 seasons of good form.
United however has done this - sold players like Ronaldo after being the best in the world, sold Di Maria when he was unsettled but still producing in some of his games etc. Even Lukaku was scoring goals for us even if he wasnt settled.
City only let their relative flops/players they dont need leave the club in my opinion for example Sane, Dzeko, Angelino etc.
I'm not sure Raiola/Haaland can do his thing at Man City.
They wouldn't need to. City pay massive backhanders in the form of 'gifts' to their players in the offseason while they're all over in Abu Dhabi. You can bet Riaola wants a bit of that action.
Too old. We should move on to his cousin. Even Erling thinks he's past his peak.
If he goes to City he'll be for a long time. When do City players leave unless the manager/club want them out?
But that's the thing, isn't it? No question that if Barsa was a German or an English club for that matter, they would not be able to purchase anyone of note. But I can see La Liga and the Catalan authorities doing everything in their power to help Barsa overcome their financial difficulties. Hence my line about their "bottomless credit"
Cant see it. Lower profile as a club, lessen his appeal and almost impossible to move on from.
he'd be a player to get excited about for sure.
Is the muppet express warming up for this as the new Saga?
Is the muppet express warming up for this as the new Saga?
I honestly can't decide which train to board. The Sancho express, or the Haaland slow train, the latter looks like a much more complicated journey.
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What's the deal with Hansi Flick's comments on Haaland?
He could just refuse to talk about his rival's key player as a potential target openly?
He could just refuse to talk about his rival's key player as a potential target openly?
Being a wanker in public is just how Bayern operate.
If he actually wants to join United, it is best Dortmund qualify for the CL and he stays another year.
Financially it works better for us, and I think we may also want Sancho from them, which we can do this summer.
Financially it works better for us, and I think we may also want Sancho from them, which we can do this summer.
I went on the Dortmund Reddit and no one seemed bothered by it. It's like they've just accepted their place or something.
What's your deal? He was asked, he gave a generic answer. Did you also moan about Solksjaer talking in length about Haaland the other week?
Ole on Haaland
This is very different to Flick's response. Ole refuses to engage the question about transfer interest;
Flick, in contrast, however? "Very, very much is possible in life, nothing can be ruled out."
If you cannot see the distinction between the former and the latter then I don't really know what else to say.
"let's see what life will bring later on" vs "much is possible in life"
you don't need to say much else, it's ok
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