Erling Haaland

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No agent makes 45 million unless they have agreed part of transfer fee like in Pogba's case.

Highest agent fee spent by clubs per year is around 22-23 million, which involves multiple transfers and contract extensions.

If Haaland goes for as cheap as 70m, that is an absolute bargain, you’re naive if you don’t think Raiola will be making an absolute killing there.
 
If Haaland goes for as cheap as 70m, that is an absolute bargain, you’re naive if you don’t think Raiola will be making an absolute killing there.

There is absolute killing and then there is ridiculous figures you posted. Liverpool paid highest agent fee for few years in a row and they spent around 22-23 million per year.

Even free transfers like Lewandowski didn't get anywhere near that fee.
 
Genuinely do not care how much Raiola makes off this. That's between the clubs to decide what piece of the buy they want to part with.
 
A lot will depend on Rose IMO. A good enough coach to persuade him to stay one season more

Same coach who didn't give Haaland a chance the half season they spent together in 2019. Doubt Rose's opinion will be the deciding factor.
 
Same coach who didn't give Haaland a chance the half season they spent together in 2019. Doubt Rose's opinion will be the deciding factor.
Different time. Like I said a lot will depend on Rose. I didn’t say he’ll stay just Rose will have some work to do
 
There isn't.

But he plays like there is such a thing.

Beast of a player.
Yeah I’m all seriousness, he is excellent and will match Mbappe stride for stride as the standard bearers of the next generation of football imo. Immense pace, power, finishing, dribbling, and now passing and hold-up play too. He has absolutely everything and arguably, he’s actually harder to stop than Mbappe.

At this present moment though, I must say he’s still not as good as Lewandowski. That guy is an absolute goalscoring machine. He’s going to break Gerd Muller’s Bundesliga record and get 40+ in a Covid season, in a league where every team only plays 34 games. Truly remarkable.
 
City are already a great team. I worry about the elevation of Chelsea if he goes there

Chelsea have to be the biggest concern, even more so than City. Now they have a manager who knows what he is doing they're defending and keeping the ball like peak level early 90s Milan. Further, their squad is ridiculously young in the attacking areas, so if he goes there they would grow together for the best part of 10 years.

For me, if you put him in their team and he scores even 20 league goals a season, I am not sure even City would catch them as they look like they are setting up to be one of those European teams where they just do not give you anything.

City would also be awful, but at least KdB is nearly 30, Walker is 30, Mahrez is 30, Gundogan is 30. So, in a few years they would be gone. I mean Sterling is 27 next year, which typically means for a player who relies on pace like him he either has another 2-3 years peak, then he will either have to adapt his game or fade.

The core of Chelsea's side is a lot younger. I think Silva and Azpilicueta are their only core outfield players who are 30+.

Who's gonna pay 120m to convince Dortmund to sell now + the extra 30 million agent fee Raiola and his Dad will demand because they'll defo get that next Summer?

Seriously? 150m quid + 350k /week, you all think a club is gonna do that?

Oil funded clubs could do. I mean lets be serious, he may completely fail, but he is starting to look like he will be one of the players to fill the void Messi and CR7 are going to leave. If you allow a competitor to get him, you could be looking at 5 years minimum of having a serious goal deficit to them.
 
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There is absolute killing and then there is ridiculous figures you posted. Liverpool paid highest agent fee for few years in a row and they spent around 22-23 million per year.

Nar, in 2019-20 Liverpool spent 30 million in agent fees. They spent 43.7 million the year previous on a 177m spending spree.

If you're gonna lecture me about it @roonster09, I'd hope you'd actually research it yourself first.

So yeah, if Haaland goes for as cheap as 70, I absolutely see a chance for 30m to be made. The oil clubs would find a nice sneaky way of doing it for sure, everyone in the World will want him, and at that price, every club in the World would be more than happy to lob a load on the top to get him.

You can doubt that, but I was doubted in the Summer and laughed at when I suggested PSG or City would pay Messi 2 million a week, not least by @berbatrick. Little did they know the fecker was already getting paid more than that :lol: There is some silly money in football, and Haaland at 70m is gonna make a very silly deal indeed, in wages, in the interest from every single top club, it'll be a bidding war and a massive massive agent fee.
 
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I wouldn't get our hopes up. If he wanted to join n us he would have before the Dortmund move. He'll stay this year and move to City or Real the following season for 70m.
 
Nar, in 2019-20 Liverpool spent 30 million in agent fees. They spent 43.7 million the year previous on a 177m spending spree.

If you're gonna lecture me about it @roonster09, I'd hope you'd actually research it yourself first.

So yeah, if Haaland goes for as cheap as 70, I absolutely see a chance for 30m to be made. The oil clubs would find a nice sneaky way of doing it for sure, everyone in the World will want him, and at that price, every club in the World would be more than happy to lob a load on the top to get him.

You can doubt that, but I was doubted in the Summer and laughed at when I suggested PSG or City would pay Messi 2 million a week, not least by @berbatrick. Little did they know the fecker was already getting paid more than that :lol: There is some silly money in football, and Haaland at 70m is gonna make a very silly deal indeed, in wages, in the interest from every single top club, it'll be a bidding war and a massive massive agent fee.

Yeah, from 2018 Feb to 2019 Jan they spent around 40 million when they signed multiple big players and also extended few contracts.

I remember creating thread for it too (it was around 20 million in all seasons except 1). Go ahead and show me when agent made 40+ million from single transfer when they didnt have clause like in Pogba's case.

Lecture? :lol:

Not even free transfers get 40 million in signing on fee + agent fee.

Ok now we are in territory of "oil club and sneaky way" which can never be proven. Also dropped from 45 million to 30 million. Few more posts and we might actually end to agreeing with each other when the fee will be in 20-25 million range.
 
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That stat can't be real, can it?


Pure BS, I remember a similar Stat being released a few months ago. If I remember correctly, it includes all goals he's scored in his career including from Norway but the data from his time there doesn't record shots on target. So essentially they've assumed all those goals without even adding shots on target during his time in Norway
 
For us to have a chance in getting him, Pep needs to think Haaland as a very good talent that City doesn't need. Like Sancho. Otherwise it's game over. They could afford Haaland.
 
For us to have a chance in getting him, Pep needs to think Haaland as a very good talent that City doesn't need. Like Sancho. Otherwise it's game over. They could afford Haaland.

If there’s the slightest chance of United getting him, I think there’s a good chance City will go for him regardless of whether he is a good fit for them or not. It just makes good sense from a competitive angle. If it doesn’t really work out, they can sell him for a small loss at the age of 22/23/24 but at least he hasn’t lifted United to a level where they are competing for the title.
 
Do we have a good chance of getting this guy?

Don't think so.
I guess the only way for us would be to lure him with money but he doesn't strike me as someone that cares about being "the toppest" earner around.

Heck, if I were him I wouldn't join United and this comes from a life-long United supporter. If he is ambitious and I believe he is, why would he join a club without ambition to return to its previous grandeur?
 
Don't think so.
I guess the only way for us would be to lure him with money but he doesn't strike me as someone that cares about being "the toppest" earner around.

Heck, if I were him I wouldn't join United and this comes from a life-long United supporter. If he is ambitious and I believe he is, why would he join a club without ambition to return to its previous grandeur?
You’ve answered the question there. If he’s not concerned about the ‘money’ then his options are: Join a club that’s ambitious but you’re saying Utd aren’t and that’s absurd. Join a club to return to its former glories, well Barca need that right now. Join a club that will offer money and titles? Well PSG can do that and City of course. Paris over Manchester? Not a difficult choice IMO. Would he join a club that has a worldwide stature but needs a player to lift it? I don’t know. He’s very young and it could appeal, it depends on his advisors and Raiola. The latter isn’t that interested in all the imponderables but probably what his clients want short and long term. Suggesting that Utd aren’t an attractive proposition is ridiculous. City are right now but it doesn’t mean it has to be the only one. Chelsea with the lure of London are also right in the mix. He’s lucky he has an embarrassment of riches right now.
 
He doesn't strike me as a Guardiola centre-forward. Clever passing around the box and more involvement in build-up are the Pep style. I might be wrong, but I think he's more suited to the old running game style. As played by us (on a good day).
 
Messi or Haaland?

you’ve got to think city will be all over messi, so that’s the only thing that gives me more hope.
 
If ever a player had Bayern Munich written all over him.

Really, really hope he doesn’t come to England.
 
Didn't realise that until yesterday, he was on his worst drought of the season: hadn't scored for two games! two...!

Took him less than two minutes to rectify that against Bayern...
 
Messi or Haaland?

you’ve got to think city will be all over messi, so that’s the only thing that gives me more hope.
I now this may sound stupid but I'd take Haaland over Messi every time...
 
I think he would come here for three years and then go to Spain and after that Italy.

I speculate, based on his choosing to go to Dortmund, that he has a plan to step from one club / league to the next, partly for money and partly to have a varied career to experience and look back on (as there is quite a risk he won’t get top tournament experiences at international level).
 
He's not coming to us. We might have to settle for his lesser known cousin, Erling Albert Tjaaland.
 
God your all negative sods in here. Let me show you.

If ever a player had Manchester United written all over him. Can't wait for him to get here.
 
If ever a player had Bayern Munich written all over him.

Really, really hope he doesn’t come to England.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they got him. Some might disagree but to me they're deadly in the transfer market, if the price is right and they want the player they generally get them without any hassle.
 
Messi or Haaland?

you’ve got to think city will be all over messi, so that’s the only thing that gives me more hope.
Graham Hunter on friday said its 50/50 if Messi leaves Barcelona and if he does he will go to PSG to play with neymar and under Poch.

Also Dortmund CEO said he doesn't expect either Haaland or Sancho to leave this summer.
 
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they got him. Some might disagree but to me they're deadly in the transfer market, if the price is right and they want the player they generally get them without any hassle.
They won't tolerate dealing with someone like Rioala
 
I can see a few big clubs putting up €120mil+ and letting Dortmund keep him on loan for 1 more season.

Dortmund get to keep him for another year and dont have to take the low buyout clause.

:lol:
 


That stat can't be real, can it?


100% not real. Here is the Bundesliga stats for the previous season (19-20) and this season (20-21) combined. He's still on 33% conversion rate which is insane. I threw Sancho in there for fun.
Player​
Minutes​
Goals​
Shots​
Conversion Rate​
Goal X Min​
Robert Lewandowski​
4716​
65​
236​
28%​
73mins​
Erling Haaland​
2665​
32​
96​
33%​
83mins​
Jadon Sancho​
4069​
23​
96​
24%​
177mins​
 
I'd be amazed if that wasnt bullshit
Pure BS, I remember a similar Stat being released a few months ago. If I remember correctly, it includes all goals he's scored in his career including from Norway but the data from his time there doesn't record shots on target. So essentially they've assumed all those goals without even adding shots on target during his time in Norway
100% not real. Here is the Bundesliga stats for the previous season (19-20) and this season (20-21) combined. He's still on 33% conversion rate which is insane. I threw Sancho in there for fun.
Player​
Minutes​
Goals​
Shots​
Conversion Rate​
Robert Lewandowski​
4716​
65​
236​
28%​
Erling Haaland​
2665​
32​
96​
33%​
Jadon Sancho​
4069​
23​
96​
24%​

Thank Christ. I was actually slightly scared. :lol:
 
The thing with Haaland is that he's going to get better. His heading and hold-up play will improve with training, but his ability to strike the ball cleanly with both feet isn't going away, nor is that preternatual anticipation that you just can't teach.

But Raiola so I'm not fussed. I never want to see that man near our club again.

Also from watching the Bundesliga a bit more this season, 'defending' is a bit of a lost art there. Teams are far more gung-ho and open than the prem, which has become absolutely dire in the past few months. I think he'd struggle at any club bar City, relative to what he does in Germany. I'm sure at some point he'd adapt, but it'll make me feel a tiny better when we inevitably don't sign him.
 
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