The myth persists that Roy Keane not only injured Haaland but also ended his career... The challenge in question took place on April 21st 2001.. when United played City at Old Trafford... However.. the truth is that Haaland finished that game and then went on to play in a friendly for Norway four days later... He did undergo surgery that summer but it was on his left knee.. not his right knee which Roy Keane had kicked... Haaland retired due to injury in 2003.. yet sheeple like you continue to peddle the myth.. not the facts.
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The myth persists that Roy Keane not only injured Haaland but also ended his career... The challenge in question took place on April 21st 2001.. when United played City at Old Trafford... However.. the truth is that Haaland finished that game and then went on to play in a friendly for Norway four days later... He did undergo surgery that summer but it was on his left knee.. not his right knee which Roy Keane had kicked... Haaland retired due to injury in 2003.. yet sheeple like you continue to peddle the myth.. not the facts.
Still not sure we'll go wild. Net spend over last two seasons is just £62m even with the big outlay (picked the two covid affected seasons). We'll likely sell a lot of fringe players this summer to fund purchases
The agent of superstar striker Erling Haaland will reportedly jet in to England today for transfer talks with Manchester United and three other Premier League clubs.
Haaland is a top transfer target for Unitedheading into the summer window, but the club faces stern competition to sign the 20-year-old.
Manchester City are also in the running and the MEN understands Pep Guardiola is confident of landing Haaland as the replacement for the departing Sergio Aguero
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www..../erling-haaland-transfer-man-utd-20309365.amp
Haaland is a top transfer target for Unitedheading into the summer window, but the club faces stern competition to sign the 20-year-old.
Manchester City are also in the running and the MEN understands Pep Guardiola is confident of landing Haaland as the replacement for the departing Sergio Aguero
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www..../erling-haaland-transfer-man-utd-20309365.amp
He broke his back and has had an ankle injury since we played Liverpool that he needs surgery on. This is pretty common knowledge...
Aren't you just backing up what he said? It was reported they were going to, but it doesn't appear that it actually happened.
Total bollocks. He ain't going to Chelsea this Summer.
Exactly my point. Played to the ground in the wrong position carrying injury culminating in his horrow show in the europa final.
And it's not like its 2 months on a crunch period. 2 years.... plenty of time to get that sorted.
Rashford has been handled poorly this season in my opinion, but to make some silly statement that it’s destined to happen to whoever we sign is impressive negativity for negativity’s sake.
We're derailing the thread now. I'm not saying you're wrong but Bruno and Rashford, maybe Cavani some days are the only match winners we've got. Solskjaer would have been sacked if it wasn't for Rashford and Bruno's goals over the last season and half. If anything the finger needs to be pointed at the upper management for not being able to identify and sign a player that would allow Rashford to be rested. Martial needs to have a long hard look at himself also.
Well but try to look from Halaand point of view. He could pick most club he wants. He's young and finally ready to flourish and wins major trophies.
His stardom is on the rise with or without United. He doesn't really need us compared to players like dan james or lingard who needs united to further their image.
He wants services, as any striker would love. He would prefer a tactically solid team that can offer him services instead of a dysfunctional team like united where he's expected to score on his own. Might work for us, but if i were him I'd choose city or even chelsea.
Wage is not an object. City or chelsea or madrid he'll still get massive salary.
And then there's teammates, stability, improvement. Playing for pep improves player. Playing for ole... not so much.
And chances to actually win trophies.
Bottom line is that we're not a logically good destination to be honest.
If you cant even handle your homegrown prodigy then it sends a weak signal yes?
And it's not only rashford. Pogba, Martial, VDB, daniel james, even Cavani and bruno are pissed at our tactical approach at times.
We're a counter attacking team who fails to win against fellow top 6 while only scoring 1 goal.
Not a healthy choice for a striker
Apart for the doom and gloom here, his wage demands, if true, would seriously destroy Chelsea's wage structure if he would get it.
@Sky1981 Are you sugesting we dont pursue him because....why? We scored 15 goals more than Chelsea in the league this year, with our top scorer being a midfielder. Not saying us signing him this summer is realistic at all, but if he produced the same numbers here as he did in Germany he would improve us immensely
Outside of a 34 year old Cavani, we have not had a proper CF since Lukaku, and even that is debatable, since his work rate and record against the big teams were abysmal. Suggesting its pointless to sign a 20+ league goals CF because we lack a 20+ league goals CF is just absurd
Outside of a 34 year old Cavani, we have not had a proper CF since Lukaku, and even that is debatable, since his work rate and record against the big teams were abysmal. Suggesting its pointless to sign a 20+ league goals CF because we lack a 20+ league goals CF is just absurd
We have bigger issues, spending 175m on Haaland wouldn't be wise
Oh for sure, especially at that price, but that was not the point
They dont seem to have that issue. Hazard, sheva etc.
It's a good thing for us to go after him.
Him coming to is another matter.
I agree and would like us to sign a forward for the reasons you have listed. But I think adding Sancho to the right, freeing up Greenwood to play across a couple of positions including up front, and hopefully Cavani playing more should help. The funds available concern me as I am worried about CB and CM, and improving those areas is key.
But I do agree, a centre forward is also needed.
Playing devils advocate, Haaland is available for £67m next year. If you were Dortmund would you take one more season of Haaland and get £67m next year, or would you accept a bid of double that (£134m) now?
Let's say they accept £134m, add on Raoila and Haalands signing on fees (£20m and 10m rumoured) and the transfer is £164m before wages.
It's a gamble BUT if Haaland is as good as many assume he'd at the very least retain that value over his 5 year deal. Assuming he is not allowed to run his contract down at 25-26 years old the club would still have a player worth £150m+ on the books.
If you sell him you likely recoup all of your outlay and get 5+ years of a prolific striker, if you keep him for his whole career you can say that £164m for 10-15 years of a top striker is peanuts.
The issue comes if he doesn't perform, runs down his deal or has serious injuries etc. Certainly a gamble but could be an incredible deal in the end.
Let's say they accept £134m, add on Raoila and Haalands signing on fees (£20m and 10m rumoured) and the transfer is £164m before wages.
It's a gamble BUT if Haaland is as good as many assume he'd at the very least retain that value over his 5 year deal. Assuming he is not allowed to run his contract down at 25-26 years old the club would still have a player worth £150m+ on the books.
If you sell him you likely recoup all of your outlay and get 5+ years of a prolific striker, if you keep him for his whole career you can say that £164m for 10-15 years of a top striker is peanuts.
The issue comes if he doesn't perform, runs down his deal or has serious injuries etc. Certainly a gamble but could be an incredible deal in the end.
None of the HG players such as Abraham, Tomori, CHO etc have any amortised value so any transfer fee results in a 100% profit alongside that other players such as Moses, Zappacosta, Rahman and yes even Barkley have a written down value below the sum they are in all probability going to be sold for
If Haaland is an option my guess it would be on a 5-6 year deal ( I doubt that he would be around that long although the same was said of Hazard) Assuming his red were say £150 million that would impact in the FFP calculations between £30 and £ 25 million pa. In the overall scheme of things not that high. It won’t be finding the cash that challenges Chelsea it’s how to make it fit into FFP and looking at the last couple of years accounts, as opposed to just the FFP figures the numbers actually could be ok
What will be interesting is how many more youngster TT will integrated into next seasons squad, because that becomes a significant factor when you look at the affordability of Haaland.
For instance for a variety of reasons Gilmour hasn’t quite yet cemented a regular match day squad berth but others like Ampadu, Gallagher, Gehui and Broja who potentially are close to being considered chelsea ready.
Hes repeatedly said he wants to play in the PL. Outside of City, which other club is a banged on better destination than us? You make it sound like him signing for us would be a huge blow to his career, but if you look at Oles other signings (outside VdB of course) they have all worked out pretty well. To put it in other words. If we put Maguire, AWB, and Bruno up for sale tomorrow i am sure they would have had plenty of suitors
Also consider the close personal relationship he has with our manager
Injuries isnt an issue financial wise. They have insurance for a premium.
But off course we neee the player, not the wage.
You seem to know a lot about what players think . . You must be ITK?
Or you know, just watching the game where they made that run and found nobody there and scratching their heads?
None of the HG players such as Abraham, Tomori, CHO etc have any amortised value so any transfer fee results in a 100% profit alongside that other players such as Moses have a written down value below the sum he is being sold for.
Of Haaland is an option my guess it would be on a 5-6 year deal ( I doubt that he would be around that long although the same was said of Hazard) Assuming his red were say £150 million that would impact in the FFP calculations between £30 and £ 25 million pa. In the overall scheme of things not that high.
What will be interesting is how many more youngster TT will integrated into next seasons squad, because that becomes a significant factor when you look at the affordability of Haaland.
For instance for a variety of reasons Gilmour hasn’t quite yet cemented a regular match day squad berth but others like Ampadu, Gallagher, Gehui and Broga
You're stretching. Even RVP made runs and wasn't found and would be frustrated. Every player does. That's football.Then thinking theses players are looking at Rashford playing through injury and thinking it'll stop them joining?
You should do creative writing.
Is he going to be playing for free? He'll want £400k a week on his first contract which will obviously increase exponentially assuming he reaches expectations. Multiple reports of him wanting to play for Madrid as well so it sounds fanciful he'll stick around for 10-15 years. Also, you're dealing with Raiola and his most valuable client ever. If you don't think he's going to piss about and guarantee the most favourable outcome for himself and Haaland (potentially leaving on a free to guarantee gargantuan signing on bonus) you're kidding yourself.
All the sources saying Chelsea are after him also says his wage demands is a big hurdle in regards to the wage structure, not the financing of it itself.
The highest earner is Chilwell on £190.000 /w, and Haaland want what, minimum £300.000?
Sjevtsjenko, yes I remember him being a roaring success at Chelsea, no problems there at all.
United buying Haaland this summer (however unlikely) equates to Newcastle purchasing Shearer during summer 1996.
Kante is their highest earner, earns 290-300K.
I very much doubt that he'll be anywhere near as productive as he has been in Germany.
Not to mention the fact that other players in Chelsea’s squad will rightly start queuing up for pay rises the moment their agents find out how much the new signing is being paid.
United had the same issue when they signed Alexis.
No, but his high wages never cause a ruckus there.
Then thinking theses players are looking at Rashford playing through injury and thinking it'll stop them joining?
You should do creative writing.
You think everyone would cream themselves playing for the Manchester United, under the mighty Ole Gunnar ?
Sure, if the alternatives if playing in the championship, but if the alternatives is City/Madrid/PSG/Chelsea/Barcelona, I don't think we're the clear winner here.
That boy chooses Dortmund over us by the way.
Haaland chose Dortmund to progress his career, to play games in a less demanding league, to get game time and develop.
Knowing that if all goes to plan, he would not be there long.
worked out pretty well.
the fact he didn’t come to us in the first instance means zip.
Where did I say that?
Your reasoning for why they wouldn't though is hilarious. Of all the reasons available.
I agree. Your forgot to add that they're in London. The big city market, big social life possibilities. That's a big magnet right there for many young players that perhaps only Paris can offer.
Insulting another member
You need to calm down abit man, when did I ever say he has caused long term injury to Haaland which ended his career? Don’t try to be an assuming prick and put words into my mouth for things I’ve never said. All I am saying here is, Keane has deliberately trying to seek revenge and it was his intention to break his leg, as he has admitted in his autobiography. They are surely not on good terms!
Being a good son, moving to his father enemy’s club surely wouldn’t be top priority for him, and that’s the whole point here. Blame Keane as much as you like , don’t blame the readers!
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