I agree with his positioning but i find it hard to judge his finishing when he's scoring against the likes of Parndorf and Hartberg. I'm not denying his talent but some here make him out to be a sure thing which he absolutely isn't.
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I agree with his positioning but i find it hard to judge his finishing when he's scoring against the likes of Parndorf and Hartberg. I'm not denying his talent but some here make him out to be a sure thing which he absolutely isn't.
Youngest ever scorer to score in 5 group games in a row. In a group with Napoli and Liverpool - I'd say he's definitely got something.
If it was that easy everybody would do it right?
Obviously there's always an element of risk, but if there's as close to a "sure thing" then it has to be him. He's just a natural finisher.
De Ligt and De Jong are both starters for their teams. So they choose development AND silverware. The same goes for Mbappe.
And if we win the EL we will be in the CL next year.
Patson Daka only scored 3 goals fewer than Haaland in the league. If we count the goals in the CL than Haaland scored 3 against Napoli (over 2 legs) and 1 against Liverpool. I'm not counting Genk because we're not looking for a striker of that level.
So that's a difference of 4 elite goals when you compare him with Daka. He's only 19 years old. We're betting on whether those 4 goals are a fluke or not. If he isn't able to reproduce those goals than we're buying a good striker who scores against the likes of Genk and Hartberg.
It's a big gamble if you ask me. If possible i would wait another season.
Well I very much doubt we will get that luxury. He won't be in RBS beyond this summer.
He might head to Leipzig but he'll end up costing a fortune. It's now or never basically.
That's the great thing about being rich, you can take such risks.
If Salzburg qualify for the next round of the Champions League if they beat Liverpool which is highly unlikely and he keeps his scoring record up against the teams he faces, we may see that those goals against Napoli and Liverpool weren't a fluke. Time will tell.
You make it sound like any chump can win the EL.
This is a notoriously difficult trophy to win and given how bad we are, it is highly unlikely we will win the EL.
Some fans need to realise that we are a mid table team.
In my opinion, Haalands finishing is already world class. He fires as soon as he has a shot, no cuddling the ball, just bam! He prefers to shoot low, either between the legs of the keeper or in one of the bottom corners, and the shots he misses are usually longshots or shots taken too close to the keeper. Inside the box he is absolutely lethal.
Some stats on his finishing:
- Around 40% of his shots end up in the back of the net (Highest % in Europa), in CL 57%! of his shots have ended in the back of the net.
- More than 60% of his shots is on target
- Rashford, Martial, James and Greenwood finds the back of the net with less than 20% of their shots i the PL.
I don't think goalkeepers in the PL saves more than double what they do in Austria, not even for Parndorf or Hartberg.
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My understanding is that a deal can be struck at anytime, but the contract would begin on Jan 1st when the window opens.
If memory serves me correct, we made the agreement with M.Depay in around April and he officially moved to us when the Summer window opened.
IMO, we won't be getting anybody in January, as our plan was to save money last Summer and it wouldn't make any sense to penny pinch in the main window, but to splurge in January.
We may of course get players on loan or on a free transfer - that's definitely possible.
Didn't realise his stats were that good. Truly amazing
It's January or never I believe, if we can't get him signed then, we've no chance in the summer.
I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be an extremely exciting signings, especially if we back it up with a midfielder too.
I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be an extremely exciting signings, especially if we back it up with a midfielder too.
Maybe it's January with a joining next Summer deal?
Haaland did well against every opponent. The Austrian Bundesliga is not the best, but Wolfsberg and LASK are playing well 2019. LASK beat PSV and Wolfsberg Gladbach in the EL, both teams have the chance to qualify for the EL KO phase. United would have problems to beat teams like PSV, Roma, Sporting and Gladbach this year. So the level of the Austrian Bundesliga has risen.
Most teams park the bus against Salzburg, so Haaland has to operate with limited space in the Bundesliga. United has problems in every game, when an opponent sits back and defend. Would Haaland a goal every match in the PL? I do not think so. Would he help United to score? Absolutely! He would give this team a new dimension.
Once Haaland starts using his head to score, he will give a PL team 20 to 30 goals a year.
My favorite formation would be:
Play Haaland up front with Martial or Rashford as 2nd striker in a 4 4 2 diamond and a new No.10 or in a 4 3 3 with James on the right and Rashford or Martial on the left. DM: McT CM: Pogba and Fred
Most teams park the bus against Salzburg, so Haaland has to operate with limited space in the Bundesliga. United has problems in every game, when an opponent sits back and defend. Would Haaland a goal every match in the PL? I do not think so. Would he help United to score? Absolutely! He would give this team a new dimension.
Once Haaland starts using his head to score, he will give a PL team 20 to 30 goals a year.
My favorite formation would be:
Play Haaland up front with Martial or Rashford as 2nd striker in a 4 4 2 diamond and a new No.10 or in a 4 3 3 with James on the right and Rashford or Martial on the left. DM: McT CM: Pogba and Fred
I don't think he'd improve us much, but the transfer makes sense on all accounts. He'll be here come next August.
Glad to see such positivity in our chances of signing him. Hope you are right
Doesn't work like that. If City is well stocked on striker area, buying him for 60M and not playing him regularly will only reduces his value. How can his value increase if he doesn't have the games to improve? Not to mention he'll command a high wage, probably not 500k high, but he certainly won't come cheap.
Hence I think city won't even look at him, 5M is just a small number to show that in extreme condition only they'll probably take a punt.
Plus, buying a 19 yo players for 70M is a stupid business IMO, especially one unproven as Haaland.
As for us, what's the purpose of buying a 19 years old? So many cons:
1. He might / might not make it, at 19 you could still go both ways, not every 19 yo is ronaldo
2. Even if he made it, he'll make a lot of error along the ways. For 80M why are we the one who should provide the learning, we should expect ready made player for 80M
3. If he made it, great, but we cant claim he's ours when we bought him for 80M
4. He'll serve us for years? Probably, but it won't come cheap, by the time he's 25 (if he actually made it) he'll command like absurd wages.
5. All the risk for nothing guaranteed
6. We're better off buying proper established 25 years old strikers, less risky, sell him when he's 28. Rinse and repeat.
Any proper established strikers that you recommend we sign?
Yeah let's hope so. Would make the decision easier in the summer.
How did i make it sound like that?
He said we won't be able to offer CL, which is a lie because we don't know yet. I just stated that we might have a chance if we win the EL. Personally i don't think we will win it but it's too soon to rule out CL completely.
So you’re saying that 4 goals (+1 wrongly dissallowed) and 1 assist in 90 minutes against the Belgian Champions isn’t an indication of talent/quality? Is there anyone out there with a better scoringrecord against them? Even when you are cherrypicking he stands out...
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I don't think the Europa League is easy to win but if we make some decent additions in January and have very good luck with injuries, I think we have a fair chance of winning it.
You can agree a deal outside of a transfer window, you're just unable to register the player.
This was your contribution, to a poster who has provided interesting insights into a possible United target...
Pot, kettle, finito finale. Goodbye now.
That is a different ballgame, Haaland would never start in any of the big clubs. Heck, he wouldnt even start for us probably
This forum...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dont be silly, I was joking around with him given his consistent praise and admiration of haaland. I even threw in a legit question asking what was the maximum fee he would pay for haaland before looking away at other targets. His valuation of haaland would provide more insight to how he sits with mpabbe, ousmane demebele and sancho according to the poster . Thats more of a contribution than you who had nothing better to say than to tell me he would get promoted before me like there was some prize to it
.You are basicly saying that United is not for the biggest talents in football, unless you come out of the academy. Am I getting it right? I'm not saying that I ever want to sell if it turns out Haaland is the generational talent I believe he is, but what would a 25 year old Mbappe or Neymar go for these days? 200 - 300 - 400 M. Do we not want players of this caliber in Manchester United? Imagine having a peak Mbappe, Ronaldo, Messi here happy and with Man United in his spine, being here since 19. Why is it important to claim he's our if it turns out his talent was real? Why would he make a lot of errors along the way and is it guaranteed that he is not ready made? How much does a world class 25 year old striker with less risk cost? Would that be guaranteed success?
The only risk I can see is that he doesn't become the player we hoped for and we sell with loss in a couple of years.
Can you see that there might be a chance of reward in doing a 80M deal for a talent like this?
You'alls thoughts on this:
How many goals and assists would Martial have this season playing for Salzburg? League and CL. (Martials record in CL so far: 33 matches 5 goals)
Is there a chance this guy is a more natural goal scorer?
Define big club! Barca and RM apart, if any club bought him, it wouldn’t be to sit on the bench. He’d start for us without a doubt. We have too many games where we wouldn’t start with our regular front 3, and there’s also injuries
If we were to sign him for £80m. We could have him here for 10 years at £8m a year, which could turn out to be a bargain.
Your posting style is kind of obnoxious, so I just wanted to call you out on it. Glad you took it to heart, judging by your long reply. I already explained the prize.Dont be silly, I was joking around with him given his consistent praise and admiration of haaland. I even threw in a legit question asking what was the maximum fee he would pay for haaland before looking away at other targets. His valuation of haaland would provide more insight to how he sits with mpabbe, ousmane demebele and sancho according to the poster . Thats more of a contribution than you who had nothing better to say than to tell me he would get promoted before me like there was some prize to it
Its not a long reply, I just thought I had to explain it to you in more detail since you missed the joke the first time. I wont derail the thread anymore going back and forth with you so carry on.
How many Mbappe are there in the world?
and we're being mugged for Martial, 45M and 4 years after (not to mention the opportunity cost of him blowing hot and cold for 4 years) we're not that much better off. Sure it's romantic that our team consists of 21 years old with potential and all that. But if Martial is sold today I don't think he'd command more than 60M at best.
And you assume Halland would turn out to be a 400M player in 4 years? For that prediction to be true he's gotta be the next Messi or ronaldo, cause that's the only way anyone would pay 400M for him even in today's inflated market. Can Halland become that player? Possibly, but highly unlikely if not extremely unlikely.
And an established 25 years old striker off course would be a safer bet in the next 2-3 years. hence why they're proven, they've done their rough learning times somewhere else.
I don't know, I'm no scout.
But if you gonna beat me with the "you can't name better" then by all means go ahead
Oh noooooooooooo. We will never be good again.
HA HA HA
30 goals in the PL alone? You know that number is very high even for PL legends (henry, shearer, cantona, etc). 30 goals for PL isn't a given.
There's this one prodigy from Holland that scores for fun, i believe he's called Memphis depay. Where's he now?
I wasn't trying to say it to sound cocky. I apologise if it came across that way
. It was a genuine question. I would be happy to take Haaland.Wouldn't that be great, huh?
There are several of us that thinks this guy has more potential than the legends you refer to....
Maybe if he use some of your "famous" norwegian skiing doctors haha.
Great reply
I never said they didn't. I said, they chose both. So will Haaland! We are not an exciting project Atm.
If we win the EL? Big if!
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