I would say it is bigger between Sweden and Finland.
There is a good reason to speculate about it. I think nobody outside Norway believe Johaugs explanations.
Erling Haaland / signs for Dortmund
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I would say it is bigger between Sweden and Finland.
There is a good reason to speculate about it. I think nobody outside Norway believe Johaugs explanations.
Hehe I like your style dude.
Fecking hell guys, get me on the hype train now.
I need something to look forward and believe instead of current sh|te we're playing.
Getting Pogba back is like a new signing is Ole’s latest line. And that will get plenty of mileage.
Actually I think the January line is going to be something like ‘We have players coming back from injury and the youngsters are knocking on the door so the squad is in good shape now’
Actually I think the January line is going to be something like ‘We have players coming back from injury and the youngsters are knocking on the door so the squad is in good shape now’
Basically, yeah. Haaland looks to me like the most ready-made Lewandowski replacement i've seen, I just have this feeling he's going to be at Bayern within a couple of years. We aint signing anyone this January, it's all bluster as usual. I also think we'll be around 12th come January too, so it'll be hilarious seeing these soudnbites you've mentioned above from Ole.
I really hope you are wrong and that we make some quality additions. Although if we do get players in I believe it will be on loan. It does make me fear what you said in bold has a good chance of coming true and that is something I've been dreading. Have no faith in Woodward at all.
Haha! Let’s hope your pessimism is unjustified, and put a little positivism into the mix. That comment from Ole could mean so many things. Here is a couple of suggestions:
- He could try to justify us going all in for a top class striker in stead of a midfielder or both.
- It could be that he is just trying to inject some positivity into the equation before a tough schedule with 9 matches in December. Telling us that the midfield situation is not all that bad when we have our.best midfielder back.
- Could also be that he is «talking to» Paul, trying to make him feel like a part of the future here.
- It could also mean nothing or all the above, or something else.
My point is that it’s funny how some in here automaticly put the most negative interpretation of anything said or done around the club, and feel this strong urge to put it into words here for some reason.
I’d like to wait till after the january window to hang Ed and the Glazers for not spending in January. I do think that not spending in January would show some serious lack of ambition and be a great step towards lowering the standards further...
Let’s just hope that’s not the case.
You guys realise how hard it is finding the right players in January and then purchasing them for realistic fees? Obviously not...
Add that to the fact of how long it took Woodward to get to get deals over the line in the summer window when he had 3 months instead of just and this could turn out it be a frustrating window. Really hope not.
There is a great chance that Haaland would be signable in January, possibly Sancho and a few others of great quality as well. And, yes! It will not be cheap, but that is the kind of money we need to spend to get back there.
I wistfully remember the days when we snapped a certain Wayne Rooney who was being hailed as the biggest talent. Does this kid have the same potential?
Not sure why people are all of a sudden changing our system to suit Haaland. Ole clearly wants to play a 4231 and I guess because it looks like he sees Rashford as more as a winger, buying a striker to compete with Martial seems like the most sensible things to do. Greenwood isn't quite ready, so having two first team choice strikers is a must.
I admit, I haven't seen much of Haaland play, but I would ideally like a striker with a bit more experience. That said, if he's as good as people are saying, then its probably something we shouldn't pass up if we have the chance of signing him.
Martial, Haaland and Greenwood are three good options for a team playing with one up top.
No other team, unless playing with two up top, has more than that.
I admit, I haven't seen much of Haaland play, but I would ideally like a striker with a bit more experience. That said, if he's as good as people are saying, then its probably something we shouldn't pass up if we have the chance of signing him.
Martial, Haaland and Greenwood are three good options for a team playing with one up top.
No other team, unless playing with two up top, has more than that.
We're finding the summer windows difficult, nevermind the January one. But there is players that could be signed in January that I deem would be the right fit. But not sure Ole would, because it seems like he's fixated on players that wouldn't be available in January. So unless he broadens his horizons, then we'll end up signing no one and the fans will point to Woodward not backing the manager.
This is how the next great war begins.....
Totally agree with you that we should be after these players and that is the type of money we should spend. Really hope we have a chance but considering the amount of money Woodward spent last summer, I feel he will be reluctant to fork out such an out lay as the one needed to secure these players in January.
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have an ounce of Rooney’s overall talent at the same age, that said he has a great goal scoring record so I would welcome his signing as competition for Martial who I find the most frustrating player on planet Earth
Probably not as an all around player, but as a striker? Sure. I'd personally say he's more of a Harry Kane with a touch more pace.
I would say this kid has greater potential and is an even bigger physical monster than Rooney was. Not the same player type though
I think it would give us a massive boost if we went in big this January for Sancho and Haaland. It will cost more of course and is unlikely to happen but what it would do if successful is give us a huge head start on our summer transfer plans and leave us with less to do before next season.
Worst case if we try and fail for both then we have at least put our hat in the ring as one of the front runners for them in the summer.
Worst case if we try and fail for both then we have at least put our hat in the ring as one of the front runners for them in the summer.
I hope you are right on that one. If so we should definitely be in for him.
I hope I'm doing the right:
Haaland is the next Pele.
If Salzburg beat Liverpool I would say we will have no chance of signing him.
Haaland is the next Pele.
If Salzburg beat Liverpool I would say we will have no chance of signing him.
I hope I'm doing the right:
Haaland is the next Pele.
If Salzburg beat Liverpool I would say we will have no chance of signing him.
Nah.. Pele is the old Haaland!
It seems he got a lot more pace for me. I have never seen any stats on Kane that suggests he got pace close to this kid.
I think you are right about the last part. If Salzburg goes through to the KO stage of the CL, I don’t think they will let him go in January, and his value will increase with his performances towards summer. We know he’s on all the biggest clubs transfer lists, so if he continues to deliver these kind of numbers there will beI hope I'm doing the right:
Haaland is the next Pele.
If Salzburg beat Liverpool I would say we will have no chance of signing him.
Hard to say how good this guy can become, but his numbers and game this season and physical attributes is simply hard to grasp.
34 goals/assists in 1279 minutes this season. 8g/1a + 1g wrongfully disallowed in 299 min in the CL playing for Salzburg and being 19 is unmatched in football history. You can actually compare his numbers this season with absolutely anyone. He has a hunger and energy I haven’t seen before.
I just hope we get him
I think things have changed a bit, mate. The financial gap between buying and selling clubs is huge, much more so than 15 years ago. A lot of deals involve a loan back option. This provides two things, a hedge for the buying club on the price of the player, even if the player continues to score / perform, the fee is locked in. Secondly, the selling club doesn’t need to sabotage its current season, and they have security of a fee, which protects them from injury and a loss of form.
When a club is buying an established star to avoid relegation or secure a CL spot, then there is desperation to bring someone in immediately. Of course, the fees will go up because the selling club realizes this, and it may also affect their league position.
I get that SAF would say the same thing every year — we won’t buy in January because there is no value. Yet, every January, we’d bring someone in. It was strategic for him. Vidic, Evra, Saha, Forlan, Smalling, Andy Cole, and Zaha were all winter window transfers.
I do think that Ole and the scouting / football operations department (such that it is) has a very specific type of player they are looking for, and specific targets. If those targets become available, then they will buy. He’s been pretty clear that the reason they did not buy a striker to replace Lukaku in the summer was that their target was not available.
Majority of them are coming from a place where there's no competition against us signing them.
Spartak Moscow?
Monaco?
Don't remember where Saha and forlan was bought from, but their's are a purchase that are least complicated because there's no other suitors but us, plus the purchase was value at that time.
Let's say a player is valued at 50. Asking for january moves would command a higher price since selling club would be left without their better player for the other half of the campaign.
Kane isn’t slow by any means, but I wouldn’t say he’s quick either. He’s been recorded at 34kmph before.
he’s probably slowed a little as he’s got older too.
Not disagreeing with you mate. In fact, I believe I said that very thing.
The difference in the Haaland case is that the price may go UP, not down, in the summer window. Let’s say he keeps banging in goals and hits 55 for the season, wins Golden Boot (though not sure if Austrian league can win Golden Boot). There is a chance that the fee rises to 100-120m. In that case, getting him for 80m in January would have been a bargain.
Saw this very thing happen with João Felix this last year. Was on the radar of some clubs before the ‘19 January window, then IMPROVED in the second half and ended up going for 126m....
Might also go down if he hits a dry spell. Not that i think he would
Pogba has been out so long that it's literally what it will be like. I don't see any problems with that statement. But I guess when you look for conspiracies
Pogba has been out so long that it's literally what it will be like. I don't see any problems with that statement. But I guess when you look for conspiracies
It's not the statement per se that is the problem. As is obvious from your quoted post the problem is that there is every chance it might be used as an excuse for, again, not doing the business that's needed in this window.
All you people who want OGS sacked - you do know that will reduce our chance of signing Haaland to just about 0% - right ?
I’ll take the no Haaland in that case. Can’t take a player serious who would rather play for United with Ole than without him.
You know this is more likely to make that lot go cold on Haaland than warm up to Ole being at the wheel?
You know this is more likely to make that lot go cold on Haaland than warm up to Ole being at the wheel?
That lot is clueless. Everyone can see that our current group of players are a bit light. We need to rebuild.
Haaland is a wonderkid, regardless of Ole. Even that lot knows that.
Oh yeah, I was just saying that I doubt the Ole-out people would change their stance just because Ole leaving would pretty much kill our chances of acquiring him. I’m pretty sure most would agree with that.
Do these Van Gaal/Mourinho/Solskjær die hards actually exist? I swear I must be oblivious to them. I couldn’t name a single poster who falls into either camp.
I feel like the utd fans on this board or a lot of them have gotten so used to being negative that it is all they know how to do, maybe these are fans who cannot remmber what it was like pre the PL years.
I am excited about utd now, even though some matches I am left feeling deflated, there are matches where I see something which I haven't seen and felt since the mid Fergi years.
I am firmly pro Ole, take it or leave it, I know I am outnumbered by the nay-sayers
I am excited about utd now, even though some matches I am left feeling deflated, there are matches where I see something which I haven't seen and felt since the mid Fergi years.
I am firmly pro Ole, take it or leave it, I know I am outnumbered by the nay-sayers
I think you are spot on. We have had some bad years and the negative focus has grown strong.
I feel really good about the progress now. We have a really good chance to bounce back. Under LvG and Mourinho it felt more like a quick fix.
The part where you feel deflated I can relate to as well. It’s hard to swallow some of the games, but the good games and periods tell me that we are on track.
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