I don’t have to trust you because you have no idea who will be remembered, it’s just your out of the box opinion. Villa was a better player for club and country and thus will be remembered more. That’s my opinion.
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I don’t have to trust you because you have no idea who will be remembered, it’s just your out of the box opinion. Villa was a better player for club and country and thus will be remembered more. That’s my opinion.
Who’s remembered more, Just Fontaine or Garrincha?
You’re seriously telling me you’ve never heard of Raymond Kopa?!
Yes we should get back to that. IMO the best place for him is Bayern, but I guess he’d like to come to England.
I heard about him in passing but I can't tie him to anything in particular unlike Fontaine just like I can tie Paolo Rossi to 1982 world cup but can't recall any Italian striker before him
Best striker in the world
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I'm still taking Haaland even if my personal preference goes to Lewandowski. Haaland is really scary
who cares about remembered more though. Question is whether their record has a way to prolong their relevancy, and surprise they do.
Every player's relevancy in world football context has a life shelve, unless they are Pele or Maradona most of the young people do not remember anyone.
I mean Di Stefano and Puskas despite their utterly world shattering talents, are barely known in general football discussion, as most of the young people tend to name the likes of Zidane, Ronaldinho, Luis Ronaldo in their top ten, when both Stefano and Puskas were superior players.
But whenever references come, records do count. They are called records for a reason.
Yeah me too I'd have some doubt if Lewan could do it in the PL but I have absolutely no doubt Haaland could. Guy is a fecking beast.
If we couldn't sign him please God of Football let Madrid have him. Not any of those PL please.
I don’t think this is true.
Not sure why you believe this.
it is, football forums like ours and big soccer and those weirdo PES forum, are the only one where ancient players are discussed.
The new platform for football discussion for masses are social media platform like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Youtube and even freaking tiktoks, and there we can see the oldies are barely remembered.
Even Pele is insulted for his goal hogging antics, rather than being appreciated for the great player he was.
Seeing how Ronaldo is still scoring in the PL, I think Lewandowski could still too. Haaland has youth and hunger on his side
They may not be discussed but I don’t think we can say for certain that the majority of young people are not aware of them. That would require a wide ranging study/survey of some sort.
What a goal
Lewandowski leaves the chat…..
Holy shit what a goal!!
Holy shit what a goal!!
If it wasn't for the age difference, I'd take Lewa any day of the week. PL requires a lot more knowledge of the game and football intelligence and at this very moment, Lewa is vastly superior. Dortmund is a transition team and it suits Haaland perfectly since he has a LOT of space there and bundesliga diffenders arent physical enough for most of them, but we've seen with Sancho than playing agains low defensive blocks was a whole different story. It'll be harder for him to adjust. That being said, he's still very young and my answer might be different in 2 years (obviously since Lewa is aging).
He's the best striker. He's improved so much and has added so much composure to his game in terms of linking up
but unlike Sancho, Haaland has proved to be ridiculous in CL too(he was last season's top scorer), nor is he is mentally feeble like Sancho.
Oh come on
It is the best league but also a league where a dude called Patrick Bamford can score 17 for Leeds or Ollie Watkins 14 for Aston Villa.
But sure the best striker in the world, with a much better team than the guys I mentioned playing behind him and feeding him couldn‘t do it here
I watched Lewan a number of times and no doubt his movement, techniques and positioning is top. That suit Bayern really well and they create a lot of chances for/with him but imo he doesn't have that burst to guarantee he'd always win against the PL defenders. Unless he plays for City I don't think he'd score as much as he's been in the Bundes.
Haaland is another story, his explosiveness is simply fecking amazing. You add that to his freaking strength, size, finishing, jumping, heading and he'd score regardless of team he's playing for I think.
fecking hell, he almost completed his hat-trick with a flying backheel volley.
I really hope us signing Ronnie doesn’t stop us from going after this guy. He’s going to be the best striker in the world and whoever signs him next is going to be set for years to come.
First he heads a Ronaldo, then that impossible goal and in the end so close to a Zlatan backheel. And a threat all game.
And yet he didn't score against City when Dortmund was eliminated or had a very rough 2nd game against PSG the year before where Kimpembe took the best of him. Ibrahimovic had an entier career made of goals against OK teams in the CL but couldn't deliver when he faced really tough defenders. I'm not saying Haaland will be the same and he's a phenomenal talent for sure but I don't know yet if he's as effective with less space or against top physical defenders like Van Dijk, Rudiger etc. His abilities really shine when he moves because he always has the upper hand when he does, it's a different game when you play tight low blocks.
He bodied Van Dijk just a couple of weeks ago.
Bagged two in the first leg against PSG, but apparently only the second leg counts. Already scored against van Dijk in the CL, and toyed around with both him and de Vrij for Norway against the Netherlands. Also has 3 in 3 against Bayern.
There's no doubt his league record is inflated by the very attacking nature that the Bundesliga is known for, but given how much he's scoring, both in the league and in the CL, there's no doubt he'd succeed anywhere else and is a premier striker talent.
He's not the most complete player but he's an extremely complete forward, fast,strong,good finishing,can score all sort of goals.
He and Mbappe are still a step ahead of all the other young talents.
He's not the most complete player but he's an extremely complete forward, fast,strong,good finishing,can score all sort of goals.
He and Mbappe are still a step ahead of all the other young talents.
if he stays injury free, he could come close to Lewandowski‘s record
so we are going to only count games he did not scored? And do City keep a low blow?
Are we forgetting he made Dias, the best defender in the league last season look like a schoolboy in the same encounter.
So we are going to forget his goals against PSG? or as other said his recent game against Van Dijk in Netherlands, where he matched him shoulder to shoulder.
Also bagged 4 in two matches against Sevilla, who isn't known for a sloppy defense.
What a pathetic thing to post
what is true is true.
Shame your post contained no traces of truth, then.
A player needing time to settle does not mean they're is mentally feeble.
He has scored 2 in 2 games vs PSG, and 2 in 200 minutess vs Van Dijk (1 vs Liverpool, 1 vs Netherlands). And 68 in 67 for Dortmund!
A player needing time is not the issue, issue is with the confidence, a player trying and failing is one thing, a player afraid to try and fail is another.
Sancho needs time, and he clearly has the talent, but he has been quite down on confidence and effort.