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Surprising that some people say that ETH was unhappy with Sancho's performances. Is this the same ETH who is always happy with the unstoppable Antony?
ETH is the problem. He is not a good manager and he has favorites (who are not good players). He was constantly moving Sancho around, left, right, striker ... while he was always playing Antony. And on top of that, he blamed Sancho in public that he does not train well, and when Sancho replied that he trains well (just defending himself) ... ETH demanded a PUBLIC apology!
Apology for what? Do you really believe that Sancho should apologize for saying that he always tries hard? Who does this? It was like asking Sancho to say in public that he does not train well. It's silly to ask this from a player. It is disrespectful.
ETH created the problem, he is NOT a good manager.
And for some reason Ronaldo suddenly plays better after he left Ten Hag. Is it because of the manager or the players I am not so sure.
He's not exactly setting the Bundesliga alight either, 12 games, 2 goals, 2 assistsThis new narrative being driven that we somehow pushed out a gem of a player is driving me mad. The amount of opposition fans that have said to me we messed up bad and its on Ten Hag.
Has everyone forgotten how poor he was for us and are just ignoring all the discipline issues, and the fact the club and the manager gave the lad 3 months off!?
I think Sancho just cant hack the Premier League's level. When you combine that with the attitude of a spoilt brat, your gonna get predictable results. I barely even consider him a Utd player anymore
In terms of surprising, the only thing I'm confused at is why certain fans find it surprising that a player who has had discipline issues at both City and Dortmund has shockingly had discipline issues at United.
Which were so severe that Guardiola wanted to keep him, Dortmund gladly took him back and Rangnick is on record saying that there were no disciplinary issues with Sancho when he was his coach. But here we are with people talking with utter conviction about how Sancho pull one all nighter after the other to play Fortnite as if they've witnessed it first hand and tlak about how he was always late to training. Parallel realities in here. Who cares about evidence when you can shit on a player, right?![]()
Forums lost the plot on this one, it's okay to say both Sancho and ETH fecked up here but it's like a large portion of posters are incapable....Which were so severe that Guardiola wanted to keep him, Dortmund gladly took him back and Rangnick is on record saying that there were no disciplinary issues with Sancho when he was his coach. But here we are with people talking with utter conviction about how Sancho pull one all nighter after the other to play Fortnite as if they've witnessed it first hand and tlak about how he was always late to training. Parallel realities in here. Who cares about evidence when you can shit on a player, right?![]()
You wouldn't have heard about it..... That's what you're missing. Do you think things like this haven't happened through the years? At many clubs? We just don't hear about it as it gets handled behind close doors so there's no narrative for social media to latch onto and turn into big story....If he acted the same way under SAF would this even be a discussion.
Actually I'm pretty convinced that under SAF the situation never would have gotten to that point, as I rate his man-management skills far higher than EtH's. I fully believe there would have been a solution before it became necessary to drop Sancho from the squad.You wouldn't have heard about it..... That's what you're missing. Do you think things like this haven't happened through the years? At many clubs? We just don't hear about it as it gets handled behind close doors so there's no narrative for social media to latch onto and turn into big story....
We literally had a stand off play out through the media, and fans lapped it up too![]()
You wouldn't have heard about it..... That's what you're missing. Do you think things like this haven't happened through the years? At many clubs? We just don't hear about it as it gets handled behind close doors so there's no narrative for social media to latch onto and turn into big story....
We literally had a stand off play out through the media, and fans lapped it up too![]()
YupActually I'm pretty convinced that under SAF the situation never would have gotten to that point, as I rate his man-management skills far higher than EtH's. I fully believe there would have been a solution before it became necessary to drop Sancho from the squad.
So in other words... he did have discipline/unprofessionalism issues. If the goal is to set the right culture do you believe that his attitude and mentality is the type of player to be playing for Manchester United? If he acted the same way under SAF would this even be a discussion.
Forums lost the plot on this one, it's okay to say both Sancho and ETH fecked up here but it's like a large portion of posters are incapable....
Sssh. Don't let facts get in way of some good agenda driven talk.He's not exactly setting the Bundesliga alight either, 12 games, 2 goals, 2 assists
Jadon Sancho - Stats 23/24 (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt
He's not exactly setting the Bundesliga alight either, 12 games, 2 goals, 2 assists
Jadon Sancho - Stats 23/24 (Detailed view) | Transfermarkt
Sssh. Don't let facts get in way of some good agenda driven talk.
Nice benchmark.Still better than Eric's darling, who's got, 27 games, 1 goal, 1 assist.
Question though, why did ETH spend £86m on him when we had Garnacho Amad and Sancho.Nice benchmark.
No, that is not the question. This is an ETH vs Sancho thread. The whole attempt to bring in Antony as a talking point when it has nothing to do with Sancho's form or attitude is ridiculous.Question though, why did ETH spend £86m on him when we had Garnacho Amad and Sancho.
It does though. Sanchos form looks better than Anthony's.No, that is not the question. This is an ETH vs Sancho thread. The whole attempt to bring in Antony as a talking point when it has nothing to do with Sancho's form or attitude is ridiculous.
Anyways, one of the reason why the Brazilian fidget spinner was bought was because the United scouts were a pathetic bunch who paid a ransom to get a RW from Dortmund, only for the player to declare he wants to compete only for the LW spot.
And Garnacho and Amad in 2022? Hindsight glasses?
Good grief.And who cares what SAF has done, he is in retirement for 10 years by now.
Good grief.
Last seasons finalists had three players that has been rejected by United too. Di Maria and Herrera had a CL final after leaving us as well. I think this is more something to hold against the club than a manager, but I get the frustration.So Dortmund are on the cusp of a CL final by way of featuring two players United has rejected. If that isn't a flashing neon sign we need a new manager than nothing is.
Not saying who is right or wrong, but did Brazilian Ronaldo even train in training session? If I remember correctly all his coaches said he was lazy and he just played and had fun in training. He never really train to improve. Mourinho said it in his interview for his time in Barcelona working with R9.Sancho wasn't dropped because of his match performance, he was dropped because of his training performance, EtH was asked why Sancho isn't in the squad and he said he picked squad based on training performance.
Nothing to do with match performance, not that it strengthens any party arguments here as Sancho was consistent and consistently shit, EtH picks Antony when he is just crap.
These posts make me chuckle, as if there aren't enough sticks to beat ETH with, we create some ludicrous takes.So Dortmund are on the cusp of a CL final by way of featuring two players United has rejected. If that isn't a flashing neon sign we need a new manager than nothing is.
Not saying who is right or wrong, but did Brazilian Ronaldo even train in training session? If I remember correctly all his coaches said he was lazy and he just played and had fun in training. He never really train to improve. Mourinho said it in his interview for his time in Barcelona working with R9.
Sancho wasn't dropped because of his match performance, he was dropped because of his training performance, EtH was asked why Sancho isn't in the squad and he said he picked squad based on training performance.
Nothing to do with match performance, not that it strengthens any party arguments here as Sancho was consistent and consistently shit, EtH picks Antony when he is just crap.
These posts make me chuckle, as if there aren't enough sticks to beat ETH with, we create some ludicrous takes.
First question I hope you will answer genuinely, are you just basing the view on Sabitzer off the game versus Atletico and the other day? Because he's not exactly been setting the world alight in the BL and we literally saw him here and he wasn't great. He also wants to play in a position we have loads of cover for AND fecked his knee so I'm sure we were somewhat hesitant to pay anything for him until we saw how he'd rehab. From memory ETH talked well of him anyway, I think there was just no appetite for that role from the club.
Re Sancho, it takes more than 1 or 2 good games to be a good player. Let's see how great he when Dortmund make an offer for his return, how desperate will they be?
So Dortmund are on the cusp of a CL final by way of featuring two players United has rejected. If that isn't a flashing neon sign we need a new manager then nothing is.
But has either even been that good for Dortmund? Sancho certainly hasn't, has Sabitzer? Or are you basing your view off 2 games?Sorry but Sabitzer was mediocre at best in his time here and Sancho is quite obviously far better at Dortmund (both before and after United), so the common denominator is what transpired at United and who was responsible during that period. ETH is obviously not good enough in many other areas, but just because he's failing elsewhere doesn't mean this issue doesn't stick out like a conspicuous sore thumb either.
But has either even been that good for Dortmund? Sancho certainly hasn't, has Sabitzer? Or are you basing your view off 2 games?
Stats barely show that.It does though. Sanchos form looks better than Anthony's.
Sorry but Sabitzer was mediocre at best in his time here and Sancho is quite obviously far better at Dortmund (both before and after United), so the common denominator is what transpired at United and who was responsible during that period. ETH is obviously not good enough in many other areas, but just because he's failing elsewhere doesn't mean this issue doesn't stick out like a conspicuous sore thumb either.