Erik Ten Hag: Press Conference in Bangkok

Real Name said:
Who, Ole?
How do you make these kind of conclusions. :lol:
Just cause I wouldnt go crazy about those kind of answers doednt mean he had a successful season. Chill.
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Well you don't seem to set any kind of expectations reading your sentiments.

A calamity of a player can be tagged as a success apparently for you.

To use that word is bizarre.

He could of used model professional or hunger to succeed or wants to prove himself after last season... success is a probably about the worse word to use probably.
 
Flexdegea said:
Your constant negative posting about every single topic club related is getting embarrassing :lol:


Chill out, why you expecting him to throwing petrol bomb in front of the media onto the team we are left with especially when they at
their lowest.


Makes no sense, he going to have to use Maguire etc rest of season,
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Not negative, its honest.

You do realize there is a happy medium yes?

Doesn't have to tag him as a success, Say good professional and wants to prove himself after a poor season.. simple really.

We've been anything but successful.
 
Managers aren't testifying in court. There's no obligation on them to limit themselves to saying things that are true, credible, factually accurate or honest. There's also no obligation on them to say what fans want to hear or offer any insight into their actual thoughts.

ETH was asked a question about a player who has received a lot of criticism and responded with a bland positive statement about the player that allowed him to move past the question. That's it.

A manager could happily declare Maguire the best CB of all time this week and sell him the next for all the weight press conference praise has. If people are reading into or criticising the wording of the particular generic rote praise offered here as if it does or should carry meaning or insight beyond that, more fool them.
 
Will Singh said:
I don’t want to start judging ETH before we’ve kicked a ball but I’m gonna 100% judge him for he’s choice of captain. I think Maguire can be decent but with a massive price tag and captain of Manchester United tag puts pressure on him. ETH had the opportunity to give it to someone else. Not changing it has now got people questioning his logic and if he’s just another Glazer puppet…!
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Our fans :wenger:
 
Keefy18 said:
Not negative, its honest.

You do realize there is a happy medium yes?

Doesn't have to tag him as a success, Say good professional and wants to prove himself after a poor season.. simple really.

We've been anything but successful.
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Who cares if he said successful, it's just a word of English, he even might not be using it right in context, but all he doing is trying to build confidence because as it stands he going to need him next season.


He wouldn't be my captain either, but manager no daft he treading a tight line at moment keeping the camp positive going into the season. Demoting him straight away with no real obvious players ready to step in just going to cause a absolute unnecessary media shit storm. I'm sure him and McClaren have spoke about this, especially after the drama Ronaldo have chucked onto the club as well.


If he said what you said he should say, you and others would still not be happy and would be saying why is he saying he's a clown :lol:
 
Some key excerpts from today's presser.

Andy Mittens: "Andy Mittens from the Athletics. You've kept Maguire as your captain. Is that because you think that he's got more to offer Manchester United?"
Ten Hag: "He's got plenty to offer. His resignation would be a good start. Then maybe I'll take his lunch money, heh heh. But none of these players could lead a fecking horse to water so I'm stuck with him."

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Matt Lawton: "This team can't win anything, can they?"
Ten Hag: "Of course not, they're fecking shite as you Englishers would say? They down tools as soon as something goes wrong because they are little mushroom headed cocks. I might as well air my dirty pants in public because the season not even start but we have no De Jong or whicher Football Manager wonderkid the RedCafe people say we should get. I wake up this morning, alarm clock go off, I think 'typical, problem begin already' then coffee man put too much caramel in latte. Seagull poop literally fifty inches away from me. Might as well go home and hide under duvet..."

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Jamie Jackson: "Alright, our kid? Jamie Jackson, Gobshite News. What's the deal with Ronaldo?"
Ten Hag: "He's bastard, a fat bastard man? Heh heh. He told me he didn't want to come on holiday with us so I told him, I told him to take his plastic teeth and feck off before someone sui'd him. Get it? Like the sue because he get into trouble. Heh heh."

Jamie Jackson: "Now, about Greenwood..."
Ten Hag: "This conference is over, everybody feck off and enjoy some mince pie next door."
 
Keefy18 said:
Well you don't seem to set any kind of expectations reading your sentiments.

A calamity of a player can be tagged as a success apparently for you.

To use that word is bizarre.

He could of used model professional or hunger to succeed or wants to prove himself after last season... success is a probably about the worse word to use probably.
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Sure mate. You read all that really good and true.


Not.

I'll try to post in happy medium yes kind of way in the future.
 
Will Singh said:
I don’t want to start judging ETH before we’ve kicked a ball but I’m gonna 100% judge him for he’s choice of captain. I think Maguire can be decent but with a massive price tag and captain of Manchester United tag puts pressure on him. ETH had the opportunity to give it to someone else. Not changing it has now got people questioning his logic and if he’s just another Glazer puppet…!
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So which of the many many other options would you have given it to?
Warranty CR7, anger issues Bruno, quiet Dave or injury prone Varane maybe? How about anonymous Scot or erratic Fred. Oh new boy Tyrell??
Whatever ETH did our fans would have moaned, so he has done probably the most logical choice right now.
 
Real Name said:
Sure mate. You read all that really good and true.


Not.
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What he said is factually untrue.

He and the club are not "successful".

It's not the end of the world, but by no means a great start either for him talking to the press. We've had years of this in the post Fergie era.
 
altodevil said:
Danny Simpson having to fill time is like watching Gandhi being forced into gladiatorial combat.
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:lol:
El Jefe said:
The complete opposite of Ralf. Zero soundbites for the media and I love it.

He just wants to do his talking on the pitch u like the clown we had last season.
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But I wanted to hear how United needed open heart surgery and how we removed a haemorrhoid in Lingard. :(
 
All the people on Twitter getting mad at him keeping Maguire as captain are the same ones who wanted Ronaldo as captain a couple of weeks back. Not sure they are the best at judging character so I'll trust Erik.
 
Keefy18 said:
What he said is factually untrue.

He and the club are not "successful".

It's not the end of the world, but by no means a great start either for him talking to the press. We've had years of this in the post Fergie era.
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I dunno, you sure as hell make it seem like it is.

It's just 1 word in a 2nd language. You are going way over the top.
 
Flexdegea said:
Who cares if he said successful, it's just a word of English, he even might not be using it right in context, but all he doing is trying to build confidence because as it stands he going to need him next season.


He wouldn't be my captain either, but manager no daft he treading a tight line at moment keeping the camp positive going into the season. Demoting him straight away with no real obvious players ready to step in just going to cause a absolute unnecessary media shit storm. I'm sure him and McClaren have spoke about this, especially after the drama Ronaldo have chucked onto the club as well.


If he said what you said he should say, you and others would still not be happy and would be saying why is he saying he's a clown :lol:
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Cause its factually untrue.

He can use the term successful in a different context sure, as in "I think Harry is a great professional, he works so hard and sets a great example and if he continues this way I believe he could be successful".

Not difficult is it.
 
Keefy18 said:
What he said is factually untrue.

He and the club are not "successful".

It's not the end of the world, but by no means a great start either for him talking to the press. We've had years of this in the post Fergie era.
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Not the end of the world but you've been writing like mad about in 3 pages now. As I said you're completely overthinking a preseason presser. God knows how you'll react when the games start.
 
Adam-Utd said:
I dunno, you sure as hell make it seem like it is.

It's just 1 word in a 2nd language. You are going way over the top.
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His English is near perfect, he fully understood what he was saying I'm sure.

Real Name said:
Not the end of the world but you've been writing like mad about in 3 pages now. As I said you're completely overthinking a preseason presser. God knows how you'll react when the games start.
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Folks replying to me so I'm being polite and replying back.
 
Keefy18 said:
His English is near perfect, he fully understood what he was saying I'm sure.



Folks replying to me so I'm being polite and replying back.
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Oh thanks for that. Cheers.
Also, understanding a language and speaking it is not the same.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Some key excerpts from today's presser.

Andy Mittens: "Andy Mittens from the Athletics. You've kept Maguire as your captain. Is that because you think that he's got more to offer Manchester United?"
Ten Hag: "He's got plenty to offer. His resignation would be a good start. Then maybe I'll take his lunch money, heh heh. But none of these players could lead a fecking horse to water so I'm stuck with him."

--

Matt Lawton: "This team can't win anything, can they?"
Ten Hag: "Of course not, they're fecking shite as you Englishers would say? They down tools as soon as something goes wrong because they are little mushroom headed cocks. I might as well air my dirty pants in public because the season not even start but we have no De Jong or whicher Football Manager wonderkid the RedCafe people say we should get. I wake up this morning, alarm clock go off, I think 'typical, problem begin already' then coffee man put too much caramel in latte. Seagull poop literally fifty inches away from me. Might as well go home and hide under duvet..."

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Jamie Jackson: "Alright, our kid? Jamie Jackson, Gobshite News. What's the deal with Ronaldo?"
Ten Hag: "He's bastard, a fat bastard man? Heh heh. He told me he didn't want to come on holiday with us so I told him, I told him to take his plastic teeth and feck off before someone sui'd him. Get it? Like the sue because he get into trouble. Heh heh."

Jamie Jackson: "Now, about Greenwood..."
Ten Hag: "This conference is over, everybody feck off and enjoy some mince pie next door."
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:lol:
 
He basically has 2 options for captain doesn't he, De Gea or Maguire. Personally I'd probably lean De Gea just because he's the only player without any question marks over him for the year ahead (except for the usual suspects harping on about patterns of play). But he's hardly some ferocious leader so it's not like the upside is massive, and you might not feel it's right to come in and immediately pull the rug out from under the existing captain so it's absolutely fair enough to leave it with Maguire and see how we go this season.
 
VP89 said:
:lol:. I love how some fans take the answers as though its literall witness stand stuff
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It really is funny. Some fans think managers should throw all forms of diplomacy out the window and say the exact truth to the media everytime.

EtH has repeatedly said he needs time with the squad to assess them properly and for his coaching methods to bear fruit. The internationals only returned last week and he hasn't met Ronaldo yet and some expect him to change the captain already. What is his basis for removing Maguire at this point, and who should he give it to, bearing in mind he's only had the full group for a week.

Some of our fans are just impatient and irrational especially when there is no football being played.
 
Real Name said:
Oh thanks for that. Cheers.
Also, understanding a language and speaking it is not the same.
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You're welcome.

I've no doubt in my mind he knew well what he was saying and we can disagree on that, which is fine.
 
I can't believe he didn't say something I expected him to say and didn't use the word I expected him to use.

EtHOut.
 
I thought he handled the presser well, with no issues. He's a little hamstrung with his English, but I like how he doesn't attempt to fill the silences when not giving the journos the titbits they're after. It shows composure and control. Regarding Maguire, he did back this up with saying he does need to get to know all his players, but that Harry was an experienced Captain. This is fine with me, he has to give support to his current roster but I firmly believe that if Maguire starts the season like he finished the last, ETH will take action. He also recognises the need for a striker, which is good, and the requirement for a large squad (which is currently minus 7 players). If he'd have come out saying we're already loaded up front with Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Elango, Gernacho, Ronaldo, he's have been equally shot down. Credit where it's due at these very early stages, he's doing ok. Proof now of course is to deliver on the pitch and get in the players he wants and needs.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Some key excerpts from today's presser.

Andy Mittens: "Andy Mittens from the Athletics. You've kept Maguire as your captain. Is that because you think that he's got more to offer Manchester United?"
Ten Hag: "He's got plenty to offer. His resignation would be a good start. Then maybe I'll take his lunch money, heh heh. But none of these players could lead a fecking horse to water so I'm stuck with him."

--

Matt Lawton: "This team can't win anything, can they?"
Ten Hag: "Of course not, they're fecking shite as you Englishers would say? They down tools as soon as something goes wrong because they are little mushroom headed cocks. I might as well air my dirty pants in public because the season not even start but we have no De Jong or whicher Football Manager wonderkid the RedCafe people say we should get. I wake up this morning, alarm clock go off, I think 'typical, problem begin already' then coffee man put too much caramel in latte. Seagull poop literally fifty inches away from me. Might as well go home and hide under duvet..."

---

Jamie Jackson: "Alright, our kid? Jamie Jackson, Gobshite News. What's the deal with Ronaldo?"
Ten Hag: "He's bastard, a fat bastard man? Heh heh. He told me he didn't want to come on holiday with us so I told him, I told him to take his plastic teeth and feck off before someone sui'd him. Get it? Like the sue because he get into trouble. Heh heh."

Jamie Jackson: "Now, about Greenwood..."
Ten Hag: "This conference is over, everybody feck off and enjoy some mince pie next door."
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:lol: I think some of the posters in this thread would love if he said that, to them, he would be best ever, not bloody Glazer puppet or shit like that. Sometimes I wonder how old are some on the Caf...
 
Leaving Maguire as captain is a very silly move. It is just a stick to beat both Maguire and ETH with that could have been removed from the equation altogether. Maguire has questions marks over his ability to be a first choice CB here. If Martinez comes in and Varane stays fit, it just creates more headlines leaving the guy on the bench. It would be worth the risk it if Harry’s leadership and captaincy ability has been proven to be a positive thus far- but it hasn’t.

Change captains till a clear candidate appears. Start with DeGea, then see who establishes themselves as a leader. No better time or excuse to do it. On the opening day of the season, When Harry slide tackles Bruno sending the ball ricocheting into the bottom corner to make it one nil to Brighton…It will be too late.

ETH should have known better imo
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Some key excerpts from today's presser.

Andy Mittens: "Andy Mittens from the Athletics. You've kept Maguire as your captain. Is that because you think that he's got more to offer Manchester United?"
Ten Hag: "He's got plenty to offer. His resignation would be a good start. Then maybe I'll take his lunch money, heh heh. But none of these players could lead a fecking horse to water so I'm stuck with him."

--

Matt Lawton: "This team can't win anything, can they?"
Ten Hag: "Of course not, they're fecking shite as you Englishers would say? They down tools as soon as something goes wrong because they are little mushroom headed cocks. I might as well air my dirty pants in public because the season not even start but we have no De Jong or whicher Football Manager wonderkid the RedCafe people say we should get. I wake up this morning, alarm clock go off, I think 'typical, problem begin already' then coffee man put too much caramel in latte. Seagull poop literally fifty inches away from me. Might as well go home and hide under duvet..."

---

Jamie Jackson: "Alright, our kid? Jamie Jackson, Gobshite News. What's the deal with Ronaldo?"
Ten Hag: "He's bastard, a fat bastard man? Heh heh. He told me he didn't want to come on holiday with us so I told him, I told him to take his plastic teeth and feck off before someone sui'd him. Get it? Like the sue because he get into trouble. Heh heh."

Jamie Jackson: "Now, about Greenwood..."
Ten Hag: "This conference is over, everybody feck off and enjoy some mince pie next door."
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100% accurate.
 
New manager comes into a club with morale in the basement and is criticised for not laying into various aspects of the club and playing staff ahead of a meaningless friendly.

Makes me wonder if anyone here's ever watched a presser before.
 
tenpoless said:
My friend Rainbow Jeremy once told me "You can tell the actual character of a person when he talks about his previous boss/team mates".
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Yep and he done the same to Jose.

Don't think he's supported a single manager other than LVG who he barely played for due to the leg break.
 
Dante said:
The only things we learned were that Maguire would be captain, and that Ten Hag wants to bring in reinforcements for midfield and attack. Bit of a damp squib of a press conference to be honest.
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Taking the captaincy off Maguire would have been totally pointless. If he fails to adapt to ETH’s system he’ll be benched anyway; I can’t see “my captain shall always play” being likely.

The second part is in marked contrast to Ole’s “happy with the squad / fantastic bunch of lads”, so he obviously believes the club is backing him, whatever some on here may have inferred from the (so far) slow window.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
Some key excerpts from today's presser.

Andy Mittens: "Andy Mittens from the Athletics. You've kept Maguire as your captain. Is that because you think that he's got more to offer Manchester United?"
Ten Hag: "He's got plenty to offer. His resignation would be a good start. Then maybe I'll take his lunch money, heh heh. But none of these players could lead a fecking horse to water so I'm stuck with him."

--

Matt Lawton: "This team can't win anything, can they?"
Ten Hag: "Of course not, they're fecking shite as you Englishers would say? They down tools as soon as something goes wrong because they are little mushroom headed cocks. I might as well air my dirty pants in public because the season not even start but we have no De Jong or whicher Football Manager wonderkid the RedCafe people say we should get. I wake up this morning, alarm clock go off, I think 'typical, problem begin already' then coffee man put too much caramel in latte. Seagull poop literally fifty inches away from me. Might as well go home and hide under duvet..."

---

Jamie Jackson: "Alright, our kid? Jamie Jackson, Gobshite News. What's the deal with Ronaldo?"
Ten Hag: "He's bastard, a fat bastard man? Heh heh. He told me he didn't want to come on holiday with us so I told him, I told him to take his plastic teeth and feck off before someone sui'd him. Get it? Like the sue because he get into trouble. Heh heh."

Jamie Jackson: "Now, about Greenwood..."
Ten Hag: "This conference is over, everybody feck off and enjoy some mince pie next door."
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Love his honesty. #mymanager
 
I suspect Bruno being wasteful hasnt endeared him to the manager in training enough to give him captaincy
 
Mainoldo said:
Disliking a black man doing what a lot people do, for no apparent reason except for being a ‘fraud’. Yeah I would think it has racial undertone.

Unless people can identity why he’s a fraud ?
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So you genuinely think that if someone has a dislike for someone and their skin colour happens to be black that means there's racial undertones?

Get out of here with that nonsense. I dislike Lewis Hamilton, but his skin colour doesn't even come in to it, I just think he's a twat. A great driver no doubt, but a twat.

But I also dislike Max Verstappen just as much, and he's white, so.....
 
Ekeke said:
I suspect Bruno being wasteful hasnt endeared him to the manager in training enough to give him captaincy
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He's probably going to use Donnie a lot, and we'll suddenly see the beast of a player that he was meant to be :angel:
 
sepulturite said:
So you genuinely think that if someone has a dislike for someone and their skin colour happens to be black that means there's racial undertones?

Get out of here with that nonsense. I dislike Lewis Hamilton, but his skin colour doesn't even come in to it, I just think he's a twat. A great driver no doubt, but a twat.

But I also dislike Max Verstappen just as much, and he's white, so.....
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We can have a debate on a more appropriate forum for it. I just fail to believe a lot of peoples dislike doesn’t come from undertones and stereotypes.

Two people of different colours can do exactly the same thing… but how you perceive it can be based on these undertones. It also can go both ways. Black just happens to be the minority that’s all.

Just my personal view anyway and like I said if there’s a thread for it, I’ll have the debate.
 
Absolutely embarrassing how every other question is about Cristiano. So many opportunities to ask questions about how ETH sees us playing, how he's going to implement that - but no, the media is focused on gossiping about the individuals rather the team, once again. I get it, that's their jobs - more clicks and all that - and I'm not sure if it's even possible to have a big club without big personalities and individual "brands" these days., But getting rid of as many of those distractions as possible would surely be in our favour. Get back to focusing on the team, rather than the farcical circus surrounding it.

Oh, and journos - DO YOUR JOB! Erik answered a question early on stating that he hadn't spoken to CR since the news broke about him wanting out. And yet at least two journalists asked him, after that, if he had spoken to him since. I can sympathise - you have a shitty job, asking shitty questions that only shitty people like me bother listening to. But at least do your shitty job well and listen to the answers to previous questions, and adjust them accordingly, rather than mindlessly reciting something off of your iPad that you wrote two hours before the fecking conference even began. At least pretend that you put some effort into it.
 
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Mr Pigeon said:
Some key excerpts from today's presser.

Andy Mittens: "Andy Mittens from the Athletics. You've kept Maguire as your captain. Is that because you think that he's got more to offer Manchester United?"
Ten Hag: "He's got plenty to offer. His resignation would be a good start. Then maybe I'll take his lunch money, heh heh. But none of these players could lead a fecking horse to water so I'm stuck with him."

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Matt Lawton: "This team can't win anything, can they?"
Ten Hag: "Of course not, they're fecking shite as you Englishers would say? They down tools as soon as something goes wrong because they are little mushroom headed cocks. I might as well air my dirty pants in public because the season not even start but we have no De Jong or whicher Football Manager wonderkid the RedCafe people say we should get. I wake up this morning, alarm clock go off, I think 'typical, problem begin already' then coffee man put too much caramel in latte. Seagull poop literally fifty inches away from me. Might as well go home and hide under duvet..."

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Jamie Jackson: "Alright, our kid? Jamie Jackson, Gobshite News. What's the deal with Ronaldo?"
Ten Hag: "He's bastard, a fat bastard man? Heh heh. He told me he didn't want to come on holiday with us so I told him, I told him to take his plastic teeth and feck off before someone sui'd him. Get it? Like the sue because he get into trouble. Heh heh."

Jamie Jackson: "Now, about Greenwood..."
Ten Hag: "This conference is over, everybody feck off and enjoy some mince pie next door."
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:lol:
 
tenpoless said:
My friend Rainbow Jeremy once told me "You can tell the actual character of a person when he talks about his previous boss/team mates".
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Exactly, and before that, he talked about Mourinho

Buckle down get fit, shut up, and lead by action not cheap talk
 
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