Expected. Don't understand some of the drama on here.
There is almost no chance that we sack him this season I think, barring a disaster.
Expected. Don't understand some of the drama on here.
New management comes in and changes the way things run. They inform the manager as to how things will be run from now on. Manager agrees and they put that in writing by signing a legally binding document that stipulates all of the above.
Oh the horror. We are getting relegated
If you're not convinced by Ten Hag, then not giving him a new contract will mean a cheaper pay off if / when he does get sacked. We have a contract extension (+1 yr) option if we start to do really well that we can trigger. Noone's really falling over themselves to poach him from us, so that's not a concern either. The only reason to give out a contract is to give him some additional credibility in the eyes of players, staff etc.
I keep hearing that but don’t understand why. The guy has even less coaching experience than Ole did
Some 30-40% of posters here read probably the last one or two pages of posts, at the most. It was weird at the beginning, as I thought that they were genuinely trolling. But I still see people suggesting we sign Todibo from Nice, that we need to spend 400m this summer, why is Ten Hag getting a new contract? Good thing is that the Qatar chatter dialed down. In general, things that have been explained so many times on the forum get asked about again and again.Expected. Don't understand some of the drama on here.
New management comes in and changes the way things run. They inform the manager as to how things will be run from now on. Manager agrees and they put that in writing by signing a legally binding document that stipulates all of the above.
Oh the horror. We are getting relegated
.Rubbish. He should be nowhere near a new contract. Have you watched last season?Expected. Don't understand some of the drama on here.
New management comes in and changes the way things run. They inform the manager as to how things will be run from now on. Manager agrees and they put that in writing by signing a legally binding document that stipulates all of the above.
Oh the horror. We are getting relegated
So it's that simple? No need to take into account the quality of the squad or opposition?
Some of our fans are for surprise next year.
My feelings as well. He kept his job, won the FA Cup but he has a mountain to climb to get a sizeable amount of fans like me back on side. I was expecting him to get sacked because the nature of how we dumped out of Europe and the bad results and performances for the entire season. If we were performing better after the European exit, I would have been more forgiving but the performances and results were just as bad as they were after the exit (if not worse).
SAF was their preferred example of what he's going to be given time.
I don’t think it’s something that will necessarily be tangibly felt next season neither positively nor negatively. We’re looking at a decade plus of grossly unqualified people above the manager having their hand in building the squad, including a few signings that were forced on the managers by the owners themselves. Why would any manager in their right mind agree to collaborate with that?
Arteta put up a title challenge in his first two years?
And you can write us a groveling apology when we're Top 4 this season
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The question is coming up because it seems like a bit of a left field coaching appointment. I’m not suggesting he’s guaranteed a manager position, thinking moreso that he could be a potential promoted coach, ala Pep at Barca , if his coaching fitted in with the longer term club plan.
But it’s so completely leftfield that I think it’s not more than him doing coaching work. Frankly the PSV fans don’t speak in glowing terms of his management spell
He's saying top 4 isn't enough this season. We have to challenge for the PL or reach a CL final and finish inside the top 4.
Maybe , just seems a bit weird that he’d take a coaching role over a managerial role at Burnley. Would love to pick his brain on why he might do that.
In his third full season. My point was people compared their first two seasons so the third better go as Arteta and Klopp’s did.
Both did a lot more than just finish top 4. But I suppose even if we finish out of the CL spots you’ll have a fresh excuse ready.
The funny thing is I disagree too. It’s unrealistic for us to improve to that level but for those that compared his impact after two seasons to Klopp and Arteta, that must be what they are expecting right.
well when he was offered the PSV job, he said that he wasn’t ready, and wanted to do coaching. PSV eventually talked him into it. I think people are assuming that he’s more ready than perhaps he feels himself
You said " I dont think he ever said he will be possession based", which I have proven to be false with actual quote from Ten Hag. In fact in this post match comments indicate he wanted to avoid EXACTLY the issues that in the next season his team setup exposed to an extremum. This is hilarious quote in that context.
Maybe it’s that simple, I hadn’t been following it much to be fair.
Ah, OK. Dare I say, that explains a few things
Does that mean he is still having a significant influence on transfers into the club
Its clear you dont understand so no point going back and forth.
Why on earth would his title change?
Head coach. First team coach.
A lot of clubs have issues, make a managerial change, see an upward trend and suddenly the 'problems' are less so. Hell even in ETHs first season people weren't talking about all these issues. Look at Villa, near relegation and Emery takes them to top 4. Ange at Spurs, who were in the doldrums and had just sold their best player without replacing him, and they look like they're well on the right path. Spurs have chopped and changed DoFs and those in these sorts of positions and it's not stopped them playing good football. And their actual squad isn't a shade on what we have. At the end of the day, things going on behind the scenes don't stop anybody from excelling on match day. Besides, it is possible to tackle multiple issues at once.
Where are they now?
Probably from manager to first team head coach, where typically the latter has less power at the club in regards to transfers among other things.
New title “bald is best”
But United aren’t comparable with those clubs. What issues do city , Madrid, Barca , Bayern have with changing managers ? Why do those clubs change managers and not need entire rebuilds everytime? Why can those clubs have ok managers that still win trophies ?
Fact 1: Ten Hag has said 538 days ago he wants us to keep possession and avoid playing tennis games
I don't think that is necessarily fair. Arteta and Klopp had been working under proper footballing structure for much longer prior to their successful seasons. This will be the first year of ETH working under footballing structure, so technically year 1 of his proper job, his goals should be more aligned with their initial seasons.
Not year 1 because the Structure isn’t even in place yet. Year 1 will be 25/26 when Ashworth can start helping ETH to build the team. Based on that we should be happy enough if he keeps us in the top half next season.
