Erik Ten Hag: "I stand firm that I find it a disgrace the way Marc Overmars has been treated"
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I daresay he has more knowledge of what happened than any of us, and is entitled to his opinion.
I want him gone anyway, for the record, but my feelings have nothing to do with this.
I want him gone anyway, for the record, but my feelings have nothing to do with this.
I think he just doesn’t give a shit about people’s personal life as long as they help him win football games.
Odious comments. I don't expect much better.
In light of that, there doesn’t seem to be any way he should be publicly defending him as manager of Manchester United. As a private citizen, knock yourself out. But not as a representative of the club.
I don't think it's right to accuse those of wanting him out for this as scraping the bottom of the barrel. Supporting someone accused of what Overmars has done is very serious, and you have no idea what any of our fans wanting Ten Hag out for this have been through.
He's a likeable and classy guy, apparently.
Although these comments don't factor in to my opinion that he should be sacked. That is based on football reasons alone
Although these comments don't factor in to my opinion that he should be sacked. That is based on football reasons alone
I don't know the ins and outs of this situation however it is possible to think someone has acted inappropriately whilst also believing they've been disproportionately punished for it
Those things aren't mutually exclusive
Those things aren't mutually exclusive
Has ETH ever said that he thinks Overmars acted inappropriately, or just the latter part.
It's really not a good look but there are very few people in football with morals and it's become clear over his time here that he's kind of a dweeby guy who doesn't have much personality and seems solely focused on football. It's the same with the way he apparently wanted Greenwood back and wanted us to sign Arnautovic, of course I wish he was willing to make more of a moral stand on issues and not only be obsessed by results but that is who he is and he's in the majority within the game (a generally grubby business that has us hooked because of how much we love it).
He was willing to take Greenwood back last year per most accounts but the outrage from our fans made it impossible.
That fits in with questionable morals
Yeah that’s the thing. I think as many of said ETH just doesn’t care about people’s personality beyond the circle of football. If you’re a wanker in the dressing room and you don’t respect each other feck off. But if you are awful to normies who cares.
Is there any manager in the prem that has managed a player without questionable morals btw?
Arteta has Partey. Pep has copious cheaters. He played Mendy for a long time. Klopp supported Suarez. I think as long as these managers don’t take part in incriminating acts themselves, you can’t ask for much more.
Arteta has Partey. Pep has copious cheaters. He played Mendy for a long time. Klopp supported Suarez. I think as long as these managers don’t take part in incriminating acts themselves, you can’t ask for much more.
Revealing yourself. How would you know he has two blurry dicks?
Thats eerily close to what the Jasim fans said about him as our owner.....
Were Overmars’ messages ever made public?
What did Overmars do?
Send nudes to a girl at the club without permission and was being a creep as well. His leaving the club is fair, I don't see a debate here.
He might also be refering about how the sacking went. In most situations a club will give a very important person in their organisation a chance. They will do some kind of investigation and see how bad the situation is. Make the important person participate in training/therapy, donate to a good cause but in the end leave the important person in his position.
However at the time the news of Overmars his dickpics came out there was also a big scandal dominating the news. There was a big scandal going on about how in the TVshow 'The Voice of Holland' contestants had to deal with sexual inappropiate behaviour by important people from that show. People who could make or break the dreams of those contestants. It became a bit like how the #metoo movement was when Harvey Weinstein was accused. It just dominated everything at the time. I think because of that scandal that Ajax had to deal quickly and cut ties with Overmars. Without that scandal he might have been able to keep his job. In regard to how morally correct Ajax really is, Overmars does claim he has been asked by Ajax to come back twice since he left. They clearly didnt sack him as support for their female employees.
Personally i think Ajax was forced to do the right thing and had to sack him. ETH does only focus on the football part and not how things will affect the reputation off Ajax or the stock price of Ajax. He obviously thinks Overmars should have been allowed to stay.
He needs more media training.
What did Overmaars do?
Yikes that is pretty grim.
Unfortunately, that kind of thing happens all the time in football though, why is everyone kicking off so badly about this over other ones?
High profile affairs and scandals have been going on for years. The likes of Walker, Terry, Lingard, Beckham, Ronaldo, Icardi, Giggs, Rooney, Ribery, Benzema, Ashley Cole, Oliver Kahn, Rosicky, Benjani, Rio Ferdinand.
Walker is actually really recent, an affair and a baby with his mistress, while his wife is at home with his children.
Yikes that is pretty grim.
Unfortunately, that kind of thing happens all the time in football though, why is everyone kicking off so badly about this over other ones?
High profile affairs and scandals have been going on for years. The likes of Walker, Terry, Lingard, Beckham, Ronaldo, Icardi, Giggs, Rooney, Ribery, Benzema, Ashley Cole, Oliver Kahn, Rosicky, Benjani, Rio Ferdinand.
Walker is actually really recent, an affair and a baby with his mistress, while his wife is at home with his children.
This is worse than an affair. It’s sexual harassment.
He wanted to bring him back last year by all accounts but the backlash for supporters and media was too much for the club to persist with that decision. I don’t think we will try again this year as the reaction will be the same and it’s not something that the club will consider worth dealing with. I’m sure otherwise he would be back.
Which makes sense given the Hojlund signing. We seemed to be working last summer on the idea of having Greenwood available to dovetail with Hojlund.
Why didn't he just have Red Bull do the investigation? He could've been cleared and kept his job.
While I understand you do not need to jump through any more hoops and you have stated your opinion, the above response is off the mark, since the relevant comparison is not between Greenwood and ETH, but between posters defending Greenwood and ETH defending Overmars.
Sad isn’t it
ETH is an idiot. Why stick up for him?
I think in this case, it was long after it had been dealt with. ETH didn’t need to comment in public or if he did he could have said “Overmars is a friend of mine. He’s since taken his punishment, I see no reason to comment further”
Something he gets to do as private citizen Erik Ten Hag, not as the voice of Manchester United.
Going this passionately in on a subject that is going to cause controversy at the best of times considering the public profile you hold is not good.
But I didn't compare Greenwood and Ten Hag.
I compared posters who defend Greenwood, and Ten Hag who defends Overmars. And that's pretty close, probably even worse considering he is Manchester United manager and people here are just average football fans whose opinion isn't that important and hardly anyone will read it anyway.
What Overmars did was not a 2 way thing though, so it doesn’t equate to an affair.Yikes that is pretty grim.
Unfortunately, that kind of thing happens all the time in football though, why is everyone kicking off so badly about this over other ones?
High profile affairs and scandals have been going on for years. The likes of Walker, Terry, Lingard, Beckham, Ronaldo, Icardi, Giggs, Rooney, Ribery, Benzema, Ashley Cole, Oliver Kahn, Rosicky, Benjani, Rio Ferdinand.
Walker is actually really recent, an affair and a baby with his mistress, while his wife is at home with his children.
he sent unsolicited pictures of his dick to female employees and rightly for the sack.
ETH should learn when to just zip that mouth of his
So you would be fine now if he played Greenwood? Great stuff.
What happens with Greenwood is a club decision though. If the club brought back Greenwood into the squad, the manager wouldn't unilaterally decide not to play him.
I am just asking about Ten Hag in this case as I want to hear his opinion, because he spends lot of his time here insulting posters who have different opinion to his. Wumminator and many here would then support a manager of their club with same opinion as those posters then.
Cheating and what Overmars did are very different. Mendy was also exonerated
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