Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

[crossy1686]

Very unprofessional for Rats to be dumping on ETH. Interesting to hear his response, the settlement contracts normally have confidentiality clauses.

What's unprofessional or confidential about this? The owner confirming the old manager had a say in transfers over the summer? Wait until you read the other quotes that mention Ten Hag doing blow in the changing rooms, you're going to lose your mind.

 

[crossy1686]

Outside of his horrendous signings, I do like ETH but he had the charisma of a potato.

"Despite his shit signings, shit tactics, and shit personality, I like him"

 

[RuudTom83]

The signings ETH made here were fecking unbelievably bad.

Antony
Casemiro
Mount
Hojlund
Onana
Zirkzee

Just for fun, looking at that list I'd say...

Antony - 100% EtH buy
Casemiro 0% Clearly wasn't a managers pick and i'd be interested how you came to that assumption? other than a player arriving under the managers tenure = managers buy?
Mount 0-50%
Hojlund 0-50%% EtH wanted an experienced CF like Kane so I can't see how Rasmus equals a EtH pick.
Onana 100% EtH buy
Zirkzee 0-50%

I'd say De Ligt, Maz, Martinez, Antony, Onana are the clear 100% Managers picks and some of those have been great in spells.

That's the thing with transfers, some you win some you lose.

 

[BorisManUtd]

And that was most of this forum, mind. The swerve on here was unbelievable. I still can't wrap my head around how a one-off game completely gave everyone collective amnesia

Absolutely. That poll whether we should keep or sack ten Hag was best indicator - about 75/80% of votes were for him to get sacked. Then in period of like 5 days after the game it shifted towards 50% keep and 50% sack. It was one of the most enjoyable games since Fergie retired I get it but as you say: it gave everyone collective amnesia about the whole season we had before that.

 

[crossy1686]

Just for fun, looking at that list I'd say...

Antony - 100% EtH buy
Casemiro 0% Clearly wasn't a managers pick and i'd be interested how you came to that assumption? other than a player arriving under the managers tenure = managers buy?
Mount 0-50%
Hojlund 0-50%% EtH wanted an experienced CF like Kane so I can't see how Rasmus equals a EtH pick.
Onana 100% EtH buy
Zirkzee 0-50%

I'd say De Ligt, Maz, Martinez, Antony, Onana are the clear 100% Managers picks and some of those have been great in spells.

That's the thing with transfers, some you win some you lose.

Mount is also 100% on Ten Hag. He spent all summer chasing him while we all lost our shit.

 

[RuudTom83]

Mount is also 100% on Ten Hag. He spent all summer chasing him while we all lost our shit.

Personally I could easily see United going for Mount without EtH being the manager...everyone at United seemed super keen on that signing, the no.7, big contract, English, still young. All point to a club signing imo which is why I would never blame EtH solely for that signing.

I can't say the same for Malacia, Martinez, Antony for example.

 

[Red Star One]

Personally I could easily see United going for Mount without EtH being the manager...everyone at United seemed super keen on that signing, the no.7, big contract, English, still young. All point to a club signing imo which is why I would never blame EtH solely for that signing.

I can't say the same for Malacia, Martinez, Antony for example.

if so then our scouting team is even worse than I thought, and I thought it is bad. We were never in need for a player of his profile, and to splash so much money just because someone is English and will take the no. 7 shirt is plain stupid

 

[crossy1686]

Personally I could easily see United going for Mount without EtH being the manager...everyone at United seemed super keen on that signing, the no.7, big contract, English, still young. All point to a club signing imo which is why I would never blame EtH solely for that signing.

I can't say the same for Malacia, Martinez, Antony for example.

No, it was Ten Hag, he chased him hard in the summer and made Murtough get him. It was well documented at the time, Ten Hag even spoke about Mount a couple of times after pre season friendlies. He wanted him since his Vitesse days, here's just one article: https://www.footballtransfers.com/e...-ten-hag-mason-mount-man-utd-transfer-6-years

 

[Sunny Jim]

Just for fun, looking at that list I'd say...

Antony - 100% EtH buy
Casemiro 0% Clearly wasn't a managers pick and i'd be interested how you came to that assumption? other than a player arriving under the managers tenure = managers buy?
Mount 0-50%
Hojlund 0-50%% EtH wanted an experienced CF like Kane so I can't see how Rasmus equals a EtH pick.
Onana 100% EtH buy
Zirkzee 0-50%

I'd say De Ligt, Maz, Martinez, Antony, Onana are the clear 100% Managers picks and some of those have been great in spells.

That's the thing with transfers, some you win some you lose.

Nah,
Mount was 100% on ETH. Fletcher did confirm that.
De Light was a club buy. Maz ditto.

 

[Alex99]

Nah,
Mount was 100% on ETH. Fletcher did confirm that.
De Light was a club buy. Maz ditto.

It's been all but confirmed that De Ligt and Mazraoui were Ten Hag signings.

 

[RuudTom83]

No, it was Ten Hag, he chased him hard in the summer and made Murtough get him. It was well documented at the time, Ten Hag even spoke about Mount a couple of times after pre season friendlies. He wanted him since his Vitesse days, here's just one article: https://www.footballtransfers.com/e...-ten-hag-mason-mount-man-utd-transfer-6-years

Yeah, it always makes me laugh this story...Mount played well in friendly against Ajax in March 2018...moves to United in 2023!

I imagine EtH having a wall of cutting from every game Mount played in the 5 years between that memorably friendly, waiting for the day he could make a bid haha.

The story/link is extremely tenuous. But we all make our opinions on football gossip, I just don't give that Mount story much weight or lay the blame of his failed transfer solely on EtH.

 

[Carl]

Sir Jim:



Me and few others spent entire summer arguing with people here that we are only signing some players because they are Dutch and barely survived from being attacked by his fans that it's not true. And we finally have our owner confirming it now. I wonder where all those people are now?

I love "I told you so" posts like this because in reality i bet it was just a disagreement with 1, maybe 2, people.

 

[Amar__]

I love "I told you so" posts like this because in reality i bet it was just a disagreement with 1, maybe 2, people.

Not really, if you followed the forum lot of people argued that we are not signing dutch players because of Ten Hag. Not majority of course, because majority here are sane people who use their logic, but 10-20 loud and ignorant ones are more than enough. I mean, you have few posts even here people still denying it.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Sir Jim:



Me and few others spent entire summer arguing with people here that we are only signing some players because they are Dutch and barely survived from being attacked by his fans that it's not true. And we finally have our owner confirming it now. I wonder where all those people are now?

I bet your family is proud

 

[Sunny Jim]

It's been all but confirmed that De Ligt and Mazraoui were Ten Hag signings.

Nope. ETH said the club had offered DeLigt and ETH approved this.

 

[VP89]

It's been all but confirmed that De Ligt and Mazraoui were Ten Hag signings.

Where?

 

[Alex99]

Nope. ETH said the club had offered DeLigt and ETH approved this.

Where?

Pretty much everything I read in the summer and after Ashworth's departure had De Ligt down as a Ten Hag pick that Ashworth was happy to sign off on, and Mazraoui basically came as part of the package due to him being relatively cheap.

 

[VP89]

Pretty much everything I read in the summer and after Ashworth's departure had De Ligt down as a Ten Hag pick that Ashworth was happy to sign off on, and Mazraoui basically came as part of the package due to him being relatively cheap.

No that's not quite true. There was certainly a brief that MDL was an INEOS target and Ten Hag also confirmed in a press conference that the player was suggested to him by the board and he agreed with their consensus to go for him.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Mount is also 100% on Ten Hag. He spent all summer chasing him while we all lost our shit.

Mount was signed at the beginning of July, very early in the transfer window. Other clubs were in for him and Utd decided to swoop in swiftly. I'm sure Ten Hag was very happy to have him, but it was as much a club signing as a Ten Hag one.

 

[Lay]

I'm not a fan of ETH but I'm never sure on who to blame for transfers. Surely it's a collective effort and not just left to the manager

 

[Kostov]

Feck him. The level of incompetence he brought here deserves no empathy.

 

[AjaxCunian]

How is Onana an EtH buy? I think he even kinda fell out with Onana in Onana's last season at Ajax if Im remembering correctly.

Onana was one of the best keepers in Europe and we needed a long-term goalkeeper. Which other attainable goalkeepers were there that were better options? We saw him shine in the Champions League, and mainly in the CL Final.

 

[redshaw]

I would say Mount was more ETH given how he had this best transition team plan formed and thought Mount could play in midfield, cited Pep's city as doing well with a lightweight more attacking midfield. ETH wanted the team to press high and win the ball back and have the midfield get forward to create.

Mount impressed a lot of people when at Vitesse and beat ETH's Ajax and had 14 goals and 10 assist from mostly midfield that season. ETH wanted him at Ajax. His performances were more wide ranging and had brilliant dead ball deliveries. Not only was the level easier I just don't think he has that game now so he's best as either a swap for Bruno or a left or right 10 in the PL.

The reason Amorim is so fond of Mount is he'd be a great left 10 on paper. When signing Mount we had golden boy Rashford on a new contract and an unmovable Bruno. Mount was brought in on the last year on big fee to play from a deeper 8 in ETH's plan and not take Rashford or Bruno's place.

 

[Gordon'sHill]

I would say Mount was more ETH given how he had this best transition team plan formed and thought Mount could play in midfield, cited Pep's city as doing well with a lightweight more attacking midfield. ETH wanted the team to press high and win the ball back and have the midfield get forward to create.

Mount impressed a lot of people when at Vitesse and beat ETH's Ajax and had 14 goals and 10 assist from mostly midfield that season. ETH wanted him at Ajax. His performances were more wide ranging and had brilliant dead ball deliveries. Not only was the level easier I just don't think he has that game now so he's best as either a swap for Bruno or a left or right 10 in the PL.

The reason Amorim is so fond of Mount is he'd be a great left 10 on paper. When signing Mount we had golden boy Rashford on a new contract and an unmovable Bruno. Mount was brought in on the last year on big fee to play from a deeper 8 in ETH's plan and not take Rashford or Bruno's place.

Yep, Mount was 100% an ETH signing. But just another one of the terrible ones he made. Even when fit he's too lightweight and was simply not the player we needed when our midfield was so poor and we were crying out for a mobile defensive midfielder or someone who can pick up the ball deep on the half turn and allow us to play out from back.