It's simple. We are poor in the second half because by half time we have given the opposition hope. We control the game, create chances and never kill a team off in the first half.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
It's simple. We are poor in the second half because by half time we have given the opposition hope. We control the game, create chances and never kill a team off in the first half.
Ditto.
Some of the 21% have got to be rival fans in stitches laughing at us.
Saying we control the game is a massive stretch.
I expect we'll find Spurs have been nowhere near as poor as many are saying.
At least he's got a goal in him. He's also a form player who had 3 in 3 up until tonight.
Would have been more effective keeping him on than introducing Mount or Hojlund.
You couldn't make up the Rashford stuff. It is almost a parody at this point.
Out of the current ‘big six’
Pep - clear pedigree, big name before coming to the PL
Arteta - first management job
Postecoglu - shown to be a good manager and has won trophies, but first job in a top 5 league, would be classed as unproven here.
Enzo Maresca - to my knowledge not a big name or proven manager, I had to google how to spell Maresca.
Slot - similar profile to Ten Hag, though as far as I understand was at a club that had fewer resources than Ajax and didn’t hit Ten Hag’s heights in Holland.
When you look at it like this, it makes little sense to clamour for big, proven names. We say managers are a gamble, but if you have a strong leadership like we supposedly have, they should be able to spot the profile they want without them being a current top name.
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
In general. Not specifically refering to this game.
I’m on a wind up mate
I have been done with ETH for 2 seasons now and have reached the stage of complete apathy.This is a telling stat.
What are we actually doing here? We've become gluttons for punishment.
This would be my prayers being answered.
Saying in general is even more ludicrous, because I'd argue we've been worse at controlling games than we saw tonight. Tonight's performance was above average by our standards.
The writing is on the wall, he defo should be doing better with this squad. Garnacho should be his first choice every week, he makes things happen. At the moment he's getting it all wrong for me.
Aye. But you should have known that the moment he wasn't sacked last season after the FA Cup final. Keeping him meant pretty much not giving a feck about this season, after the dross he served up last.
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Fair enoughI’m on a wind up mate
I saw some Italian reports linking us to Inzaghi last week. Article said something along the lines of INEOS having no belief in Ten Hag and Inzaghi being intrigued by the possibility of managing in the Prem
He’ll definitely be gone if that happens.
I’m going to buck the trend and I think the players will rally now and we’ll go on a little run.
Tonight was gash but it wasn’t as bad as many as making out, a draw at home versus a bog standard team is shit but whatever if we progress, EL is judged on getting through and then knock outs. I’d say it was just a bit of a dull game if I’m honest, should have won but shocking for their goal from a number of players.
Ye I don’t think dropping Rashford at palace helped at all. Why drop an inform player. He’ll probably lose confidence again now
Seemed happy leaving the press, smiling winking and thumbs up. Twat
You've really seen nothing so far that might make you think he's not going to emulate SAF?
Ten Hag could point to players letting him down, but he continues to not do himself any favours with bizarre in game management that makes us worse and makes him look clueless.
Here we are again faced with the sorry tale of a manager holding on for a payout. Can’t blame him but I hope we get the recruitment for the next manager spot on for once.
The SAF comparison is pathetic at best.
Spurs at home, Porto and Villa away in the next 3.
Could easily see us losing all 3.
Could easily see us losing all 3.
Yet still some say that posters have an 'agenda' against him for saying he's not good enough.
Totally terrible tactics! Time to tentatively try to trial Tommy Tuchel
Do any of you Ten Hag out brigade actually know anything about football? Ok sack him, but tell me who would you get instead? My granny with a stick of rhubarb would do a better job, but who is out there, right now, that we can bring in? Literally anyone is better, so I’m going to pointlessly insist you give me one name.
You’ve had two whole seasons to watch and evaluate all the decisions he’s taken and if you can’t see that he needs his own players then you’re literally not watching. He’s had rubbish players forced upon him, we all know that for a fact. If you don’t, you’re an idiot.
We’re not a sacking club, we kept SAF around for years. It’s the same for ten hag, regardless of two years of evidence, he just needs time. I’m not going to tell you how much time, could be two years, could be two decades - but I will repeat myself until I’m blue in the face, he needs time!
Also, anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot and really annoying.
You’ve had two whole seasons to watch and evaluate all the decisions he’s taken and if you can’t see that he needs his own players then you’re literally not watching. He’s had rubbish players forced upon him, we all know that for a fact. If you don’t, you’re an idiot.
We’re not a sacking club, we kept SAF around for years. It’s the same for ten hag, regardless of two years of evidence, he just needs time. I’m not going to tell you how much time, could be two years, could be two decades - but I will repeat myself until I’m blue in the face, he needs time!
Also, anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot and really annoying.
100%
Same old rubbish. Sick and tired of it. He should've been booted out last season. Hopefully the board realise their mistake soon. This squad should be capable of competing in the CL, but we're being made to look like some mediocre Europa league minnows thanks to the inept manager. Anyone defending him is on the wind up, because no one is genuinely stupid enough to think he's good enough
I would take Big Sam at this point if we stick with ETH until Christmas we will need him to get us out of relegation
I don’t think it will be that easy. We may gain some momentum and get into 6th by Xmas. Touching distance to top 4.
Remember when Fergie left and his parting words were "give the new guy time"? Some people just really can't let that go, to the detriment of the club.
I'm convinced had that picture of Fergie and ETH having a meal together, not happened few more people would have been calling for time on his tenure.
But it is what it is.
Nah we'll probably win one with an uninspiring performance and call it a come back. He has even more luck then OGS. Somehow manages to pull off a few results here and there just enough to keep him in a job.
I will be short; ETH is sh.it. His tactics are sh.it. His ingame management is sh.it His personality is sh.it. I hate this team. I miss Ole. Thats all.
He'll be gone before Christmas maybe by the end of November. From the decisions he makes and the set up and tactics he keeps using I can't see how he's going to get us to where we need to be.
I feel that he's not capable of adapting from game to game, his substitutions are sometimes mind boggling and no matter what team he puts out we still look like any half decent side can open us up with ease.
I feel that he's not capable of adapting from game to game, his substitutions are sometimes mind boggling and no matter what team he puts out we still look like any half decent side can open us up with ease.
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Calm down. We shouldn’t call people defending him stupid. Again, we are inclusive of all opinions here, no matter how insane they may seem. 21.4% of people on the Caf are not stupid.