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How not ?
There were plenty of chances to go well ahead and bury the game. This felt like one of those games where nothing will go right.
Plus the obvious VAR sucker punch, which decided the game.

I'm no fan of ETH, but I don't feel he made any glaring errors.
That said, his usual one decent/good/passable half of football reared it's head.
 
There were plenty of chances to go well ahead and bury the game. This felt like one of those games where nothing will go right.
Plus the obvious VAR sucker punch, which decided the game.

I'm no fan of ETH, but I don't feel he made any glaring errors.
That said, his usual one decent/good/passable half of football reared it's head.
I was sitting behind Onana's goals with west ham fans - have season ticket friends.

They were expecting a loss because they know theyve been abysmal for a long time.
They had a laugh with the penalty decision it was a joke amd obvious.
They were signing you're getting sacked in the morning every time ten hag moved. I joined them.


It's frankly absurd that WH fans are laughing with him. Outplaying one of the worst teams in the PL for 45 isnt really anything to be proud of.

We are dreadful.
 
No such thing as an easy game with ETH in charge, very unlikely we win all three of those games.
Exactly. I guess those people didn’t watch our games at all. Every team is so hard for us to play. We have been always playing at the opponent’s level except the top teams, no matter how low their levels are normally.
 
I thought you were serious for a minute :lol: a broken man!

Southgate isn't gonna be hired here. Things are bad but we aren't at that stage and thank feck.... but yeah ETH is done, things are not going to substantially improve


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Yeah, i won’t lie - i am a broken man these days. A few of our players plus this manager have done this to me :lol:
I don't disagree, not first choice, it I'd take Gareth. At least he can organise a midfield
Yeah Southgate wouldn’t be on my list at all, unless it’s legitimately only as an interim.
 
If we sack him he goes on gardening leave getting paid the same money he would anyway.

Then if he wants a new job we negotiate a settlement to pay up front.

So the earlier we sack him the less money we will pay him overall.
And according to his devoted fans last Summer there’d no shortage of interest if he became available, including the best clubs in the world.
 
I'm no fan of ETH, but I don't feel he made any glaring errors.
That said, his usual one decent/good/passable half of football reared it's head.
It's like watching the two halves of someone's brain fighting with each other. Take a step back and ask yourself how both of those statements can be true. If Ten Hag didn't make any mistakes, how did his side go from dominating in the first half (but not actually scoring, again) to completely losing control and being dominated in the second half? Why didn't he change things? Lopetegui changed things. Lopetegui had a positive impact on his team's performance during the game. Why is it only Ten Hag who's powerless to do anything if the balance of play changes? What is he even being paid for if it's not within his power to do that and so apparently not his fault if he can't? Might as well stick a traffic cone on the sideline and ask the players to look to it for inspiration. Be a big money-saver for Brexit Jim as well. Win/win?
 
It's all just so uneventful. No whispers/murmurs of anything happening. United with 4 wins in 14 and it doesn't even feel like people blink twice or care about it anymore. I don't see any palpable pressure nor outrage from the press - even the banter from opps and neutrals is very mild. A substantial number of United fans seem resigned to him not going away, others say stuff like "don't think that's a sackable performance"

fecking hell. We might really be finished as a top tier institution.
 
It's all just so uneventful. No whispers/murmurs of anything happening. United with 4 wins in 14 and it doesn't even feel like people blink twice or care about it anymore. I don't see any palpable pressure nor outrage from the press - even the banter from opps and neutrals is very mild. A substantial number of United fans seem resigned to him not going away, others say stuff like "don't think that's a sackable performance"

fecking hell. We might really be finished as a top tier institution.

We are finished, until proven otherwise. But for now and the next years, we are irrelevant. A proper midtable club. It may take a long while, because Ineos and the football people in place dont seem to understand what is going on.
 
I’m just saying I don’t think this was a sackable performance. I think he should have been sacked a long time ago and obviously wouldn’t complain if he goes tomorrow but I do think it’s more important to focus on performances than results if we want to see longterm progress. In that sense, this was better than many of our wins.

A poor second half resulting in a loss against West Ham leaving us 14th in the table is absolutely a sackable performance. Jesus wept, our standards really are on the floor if you don’t think think this performance in this context is sackable.
 
A poor second half resulting in a loss against West Ham leaving us 14th in the table is absolutely a sackable performance. Jesus wept, our standards really are on the floor if you don’t think think this performance in this context is sackable.
I think this is it for me. The most depressing thing is what we’re settling for. We’re awful and we should be multiple levels above this.

We don’t have a single player that would get in Lpool, City, Arsenal, Chelsea maybe even Spurs which is shocking
 
He is just waiting to be sacked, I think even he knows that it is a matter of time. Hence the reason to keep bringing up the trophy, but not the actual league from last season.
 
We are finished, until proven otherwise. But for now and the next years, we are irrelevant. A proper midtable club. It may take a long while, because Ineos and the football people in place dont seem to understand what is going on.

True. I think we should genuinely start viewing ourselves as a mid table club now, that occasionally might finish 3rd or 4th if other clubs capitulate. No reason to think otherwise. We are maybe the old Spurs or Chelsea before their Roman takeover when they were hovering around but never challenging for anything. Maybe worse.
 
We are finished, until proven otherwise. But for now and the next years, we are irrelevant. A proper midtable club. It may take a long while, because Ineos and the football people in place dont seem to understand what is going on.

Oh I think they do understand the situation. The issue is most likely who they want to replace Ten Hag with.
Yes it is a slow process.
But it so important that they recruit the right person.
Being a Manchester United fan isn't a lot of fun at the moment.
 
This was not the result that sacked him.

But you do t get much grace when you've had so many terrible results that mean this is a stackable result.

You buy time by having wins under your belt.

For Ten Hag he has run out of rope.
 
Suspect the only reason he wasn't sacked a couple of weeks ago is because SJR and the execs don't want to buy him out, especially as there aren't any viable managers to take over mid season. They could of course go with Ruud for the rest of the year, but are probably thinking "Would Ruud get us more success than ETH given the amount of pay out money we would lose by sacking the latter?".
 
A great point at a tough away game in the Uefa Cup, and almost managed to steal something from the mighty West Ham at their storied athletics stadium.

Can see why Ineos remain confident of success in the Ten Hag era. It just keeps getting better. The signs of progress are clear.
 
Suspect the only reason he wasn't sacked a couple of weeks ago is because SJR and the execs don't want to buy him out, especially as there aren't any viable managers to take over mid season. They could of course go with Ruud for the rest of the year, but are probably thinking "Would Ruud get us more success than ETH given the amount of pay out money we would lose by sacking the latter?".

Maybe not but at least with RVN you might get some goodwill from the fans and some positivity around the club again due the affection the fans have for him.

Honestly, could he do any worse?
 
I agree with all your points, but it ain't happening. INEOs made the call to keep him in the summer, now it's been proven to be an awful call but they won't sack him now they want to safe face. They won't accept they feck up keeping him when everyone knew what it has to be done.

Each match I think ok now this is it, enough is enough yet he's still here. If anything it he'll be here until the next international brake. No chance he'll leave this week.
They put RVN in as a contingency plan, he won’t be here past next weekend he’s gone, his team can’t score goals and with players like Hojlund, Rashford, Eriksen, Bruno, Garnaucho, Mount, Amad and Zirkzee you must score goals.

Now as much as I think they are a reasonably talented bunch we need a couple of sure things, Brian Mbeumo and Danny Wellbeck have 12/13 PL goals this season, we should get Thomas Frank and give him Mbeumo and wellbeck im sure we can the both for £50-60m in the January window
 
Fortunately it's not really a one season game INEOS are playing.

Not saying it isn't shit that they seem happy to just write this season off, though. They have to get the right man in when they make their move.
Does that mean the 'right man' wants to stick with his current team until the summer? Or that he wasn't ready to leave his current team last summer? Because I don't understand where the right man will come from otherwise...
 
No such thing as an easy game with ETH in charge, very unlikely we win all three of those games.
Totally agree can see the team losing Wednesday and he finally gets the bullet, he’s been one of the worst coaches we’ve ever seen at Old Trafford, simply by his illusions of grandeur, he can’t see what other see, that’s he’s actually a pretty shi..coach!
 
I agree with all your points, but it ain't happening. INEOs made the call to keep him in the summer, now it's been proven to be an awful call but they won't sack him now they want to safe face. They won't accept they feck up keeping him when everyone knew what it has to be done.

Each match I think ok now this is it, enough is enough yet he's still here. If anything it he'll be here until the next international brake. No chance he'll leave this week.

I’ll never understand this face saving reasoning for not sacking him. It’s their first full season after taking charge of the footballing operation at the club and they’re on course to have us in a relegation scrap, that’s a much worse look than admitting you fecked up keeping the manager on.
 
Does that mean the 'right man' wants to stick with his current team until the summer? Or that he wasn't ready to leave his current team last summer? Because I don't understand where the right man will come from otherwise...

Hoeness, Inzaghi, Alonso and Nagelsman (won't be available until after 2026 though) all fall into that category.
 
The season isn't entirely lost. We have 7 points distance to relegation and 7 points distance to a CL spot. If we act now we might actually save this season but if we wait another month it's over and any chance, as small as it may be of a 4th place finish will be gone.
 
I’ll never understand this face saving reasoning for not sacking him. It’s their first full season after taking charge of the footballing operation at the club and they’re on course to have us in a relegation scrap, that’s a much worse look than admitting you fecked up keeping the manager on.
Same here - I don't the face saving theory. The only marginally valid reason for not pulling the trigger is the lack of alternatives/no good alternatives wanting to join us (which would be easy to understand btw).

But even then, a questionable interim manager would surely not be worse than EtH.
 
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