GreatDane
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I was amazed we managed to score a goal.I was amazed people were predicting a win.
I was amazed we managed to score a goal.I was amazed people were predicting a win.
There were plenty of chances to go well ahead and bury the game. This felt like one of those games where nothing will go right.How not ?
'If you want to know what is wrong from right, you must listen to what potato saaaaaay...'Tomorrow morning, we live in hope.
A baked potato after my own heart.'If you want to know what is wrong from right, you must listen to what potato saaaaaay...'
'Do be good, don't be bad'
'Thank you, baked potato'
Only Palace and Southampton have scored less.I was amazed we managed to score a goal.
He's been taking the fans for idiots for a good while nowDo we think he genuinely believes he 'turned it round' last season with the cup win or is he just taking the fans for idiots?
I was sitting behind Onana's goals with west ham fans - have season ticket friends.There were plenty of chances to go well ahead and bury the game. This felt like one of those games where nothing will go right.
Plus the obvious VAR sucker punch, which decided the game.
I'm no fan of ETH, but I don't feel he made any glaring errors.
That said, his usual one decent/good/passable half of football reared it's head.
Exactly. I guess those people didn’t watch our games at all. Every team is so hard for us to play. We have been always playing at the opponent’s level except the top teams, no matter how low their levels are normally.No such thing as an easy game with ETH in charge, very unlikely we win all three of those games.
Yeah, i won’t lie - i am a broken man these days. A few of our players plus this manager have done this to meI thought you were serious for a minute a broken man!
Southgate isn't gonna be hired here. Things are bad but we aren't at that stage and thank feck.... but yeah ETH is done, things are not going to substantially improve
Yeah Southgate wouldn’t be on my list at all, unless it’s legitimately only as an interim.I don't disagree, not first choice, it I'd take Gareth. At least he can organise a midfield
And according to his devoted fans last Summer there’d no shortage of interest if he became available, including the best clubs in the world.If we sack him he goes on gardening leave getting paid the same money he would anyway.
Then if he wants a new job we negotiate a settlement to pay up front.
So the earlier we sack him the less money we will pay him overall.
It's like watching the two halves of someone's brain fighting with each other. Take a step back and ask yourself how both of those statements can be true. If Ten Hag didn't make any mistakes, how did his side go from dominating in the first half (but not actually scoring, again) to completely losing control and being dominated in the second half? Why didn't he change things? Lopetegui changed things. Lopetegui had a positive impact on his team's performance during the game. Why is it only Ten Hag who's powerless to do anything if the balance of play changes? What is he even being paid for if it's not within his power to do that and so apparently not his fault if he can't? Might as well stick a traffic cone on the sideline and ask the players to look to it for inspiration. Be a big money-saver for Brexit Jim as well. Win/win?I'm no fan of ETH, but I don't feel he made any glaring errors.
That said, his usual one decent/good/passable half of football reared it's head.
He believes he 'turned it around' last season.
4 wins in 14 games. One of them against Barnsley. You can say today wasn’t on Ten Hag, but the bigger picture is.
Thanks Erik, wish you all the best mate.
It's all just so uneventful. No whispers/murmurs of anything happening. United with 4 wins in 14 and it doesn't even feel like people blink twice or care about it anymore. I don't see any palpable pressure nor outrage from the press - even the banter from opps and neutrals is very mild. A substantial number of United fans seem resigned to him not going away, others say stuff like "don't think that's a sackable performance"
fecking hell. We might really be finished as a top tier institution.
I’m just saying I don’t think this was a sackable performance. I think he should have been sacked a long time ago and obviously wouldn’t complain if he goes tomorrow but I do think it’s more important to focus on performances than results if we want to see longterm progress. In that sense, this was better than many of our wins.
This performance has actually hardened my stance on the coach. Glad he'll get more time, and couldn't care less about who it winds up in the process.
He believes he 'turned it around' last season.
I think this is it for me. The most depressing thing is what we’re settling for. We’re awful and we should be multiple levels above this.A poor second half resulting in a loss against West Ham leaving us 14th in the table is absolutely a sackable performance. Jesus wept, our standards really are on the floor if you don’t think think this performance in this context is sackable.
We are finished, until proven otherwise. But for now and the next years, we are irrelevant. A proper midtable club. It may take a long while, because Ineos and the football people in place dont seem to understand what is going on.
We are finished, until proven otherwise. But for now and the next years, we are irrelevant. A proper midtable club. It may take a long while, because Ineos and the football people in place dont seem to understand what is going on.
Why fight for title when 8th place do trick.Jesus
He really is unambitious isn’t he
I don’t think he ever intends to fight for the title
Suspect the only reason he wasn't sacked a couple of weeks ago is because SJR and the execs don't want to buy him out, especially as there aren't any viable managers to take over mid season. They could of course go with Ruud for the rest of the year, but are probably thinking "Would Ruud get us more success than ETH given the amount of pay out money we would lose by sacking the latter?".
They put RVN in as a contingency plan, he won’t be here past next weekend he’s gone, his team can’t score goals and with players like Hojlund, Rashford, Eriksen, Bruno, Garnaucho, Mount, Amad and Zirkzee you must score goals.I agree with all your points, but it ain't happening. INEOs made the call to keep him in the summer, now it's been proven to be an awful call but they won't sack him now they want to safe face. They won't accept they feck up keeping him when everyone knew what it has to be done.
Each match I think ok now this is it, enough is enough yet he's still here. If anything it he'll be here until the next international brake. No chance he'll leave this week.
Does that mean the 'right man' wants to stick with his current team until the summer? Or that he wasn't ready to leave his current team last summer? Because I don't understand where the right man will come from otherwise...Fortunately it's not really a one season game INEOS are playing.
Not saying it isn't shit that they seem happy to just write this season off, though. They have to get the right man in when they make their move.
Totally agree can see the team losing Wednesday and he finally gets the bullet, he’s been one of the worst coaches we’ve ever seen at Old Trafford, simply by his illusions of grandeur, he can’t see what other see, that’s he’s actually a pretty shi..coach!No such thing as an easy game with ETH in charge, very unlikely we win all three of those games.
I agree with all your points, but it ain't happening. INEOs made the call to keep him in the summer, now it's been proven to be an awful call but they won't sack him now they want to safe face. They won't accept they feck up keeping him when everyone knew what it has to be done.
Each match I think ok now this is it, enough is enough yet he's still here. If anything it he'll be here until the next international brake. No chance he'll leave this week.
Does that mean the 'right man' wants to stick with his current team until the summer? Or that he wasn't ready to leave his current team last summer? Because I don't understand where the right man will come from otherwise...
Same here - I don't the face saving theory. The only marginally valid reason for not pulling the trigger is the lack of alternatives/no good alternatives wanting to join us (which would be easy to understand btw).I’ll never understand this face saving reasoning for not sacking him. It’s their first full season after taking charge of the footballing operation at the club and they’re on course to have us in a relegation scrap, that’s a much worse look than admitting you fecked up keeping the manager on.