He did well in the CL one season - don't get me wrong, it was a great campaign, but many other managers who I wouldn't consider top level have also taken smaller teams to a CL semi (e.g., Puel with Lyon, Di Francesco with Roma). I don't think a one-off cup campaign with a relatively low number of matches is necessarily indicative of managerial quality.
Sure, but he was also hailed in the Netherlands as a great coach that played spectacular football, and he did do well in his final CL season as well (for a Dutch club). And if a good CL run can be lucky, then it's equally unlucky and not fully on him that Ajax went out against Benfica (I think it was) that year while clearly being the better time.
But that's not all that interesting as an argument. My point was mostly that he set up Ajax superbly and isn't even managing something coherent now on many occasions. It just doesn't make sense.
(That's also where the De Boer comparisons are unhelpful. Yes, De Boer won many titles, but he was never considered a great coach in the Netherlands: his Ajax was boring (if effective) in the league and toothless in Europe. But Ten Hag was seen as the next big thing. The comparison is based on titles alone, same as Ranieri, which isn't very interesting.)
Even though we do have a few Dutch players and Dutch speaking players, it could be a communication barrier. Plus perhaps we are overrating the influence he had on the tactics of that Ajax side. And whatever he's been trying to implement at United certainly isn't the Ajax system so maybe his tactics just won't work in a high level league like the PL. I can't think of another team that has tried to simultaneously press high and also defend deep. We seen in his first season and towards the end of last season that he can competently set-up the team using different tactics.
Or a combination of any or all of those things.
Yeah, and that's where I understand the 'he can't cut it in the EPL arguments'. His midfield has been making no sense and he might continue to underestimate how it never will. Then one could defend him by saying he was dealing with a disjointed squad (in terms of skill/tactics profiles), but there are clearly better ways to deal with that than a Frankenstein approach. So yeah, that's where you could say he might be too one-dimensional in his thinking and not in the right job (league + club) at United.
Someone said this the other day and there may be some truth in it, is he over coaching them to the point that players are confused?
It’s only when he simplifies our game that the players produce the best results.
If he is, its the hill that Lvg died on too
That might be another factor, but you'd have to assume that Ajax players are somehow much more intelligent, which seems unlikely to me. Although I suppose you could say more of them come from a background where they already played football like Ten Hag's at Ajax.
Anyway, I can keep going against individual arguments, but the truth of the matter is that it isn't working out for Ten Hag. So probably
@stevoc was right: it's a combination of bits and pieces of all of the above that come together to form a disfunctional whole.