People, don’t spam the thread with random nobodies giving their verdict in tweet form.
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Sorry if I’m annoying you mate. I’m just frustrated to feck with it allOh right…. Thanks for the update
That was a very odd scenario where we were looking for a replacement but somehow ended up not liking any of the managers we spoke to enough to make a change.We thought the same after the FA-cup final just to find they're going to take two weeks to announce that nothings changed
Bring back Woodward.
I just think it’s daft. We’re going to get an announcement either way.Sorry if I’m annoying you mate. I’m just frustrated to feck with it all
That was a very odd scenario where we were looking for a replacement but somehow ended up not liking any of the managers we spoke to enough to make a change.
I still don't understand what happened there really.
Ultimately, he can't keep surviving those scenarios where he's right on the edge of the sack, when he survived by a whisker once already.
No news from Carrington, only a handful of players turned in today as it is an international break Eth is now on holiday and today's meeting was never about ETH but obviously it will have been discussed, Players and staff don't want him to return from holidayAny news @vanderpants?
Writing the season off for a mythical target next summer would be stupidity. They interviewed the managers they liked in the summer.If ETH does stay on then I think it says that INEOS clearly have a number one target who they're unable to get at this time but one they're more than confident of getting in the summer.
Why don’t they want him to return?No news from Carrington, only a handful of players turned in today as it is an international break Eth is now on holiday and today's meeting was never about ETH but obviously it will have been discussed, Players and staff don't want him to return from holiday
He knows he’s safe. He must have been telling the truth when he said he spoke to them after the villa gameJust finished my dinner and he’s still here. Well not here, but on a beach somewhere without a care in the world.
Yes that's exactly itIt's farcical because they are not moving fast enough for impatient internet bedwetters?
Source?No news from Carrington, only a handful of players turned in today as it is an international break Eth is now on holiday and today's meeting was never about ETH but obviously it will have been discussed, Players and staff don't want him to return from holiday
He isn't liked, he's rude and arrogant, a lot of the first-team staff wont lose any sleep if/when he goesWhy don’t they want him to return?
Tell us all…
It literally is exactly thatYes that's exactly it
Hey, don't tar everyone with the same brush. Some of us wanted him out a long time ago!I don’t know how anyone can think he’s what we need at this point. The club got it wrong, we as fans got it wrong, it’s alright to admit a mistake. He’s simply not the guy.
The cost thing doesn't make any sense either considering we stand to lose a lot more by not making top 4/5.Writing the season off for a mythical target next summer would be stupidity. They interviewed the managers they liked in the summer.
The only reason they've got not to sack him is they don't like the cost of it.
‘not all fans’Hey, don't tar everyone with the same brush. Some of us wanted him out a long time ago!
Source?
Good summary, it's really concerning ineos couldn't see this in the summer. I don't give a shit if a lot if the fan base wanted him to stay, clearly the judgement of the fans can't be trusted but thye should know betterIn Erik’s first season we lost:
2-1 v Brighton (h)
4-0 v Brentford (a)
6-3 v City (a)
3-1 v Villa (a)
3-2 v Arsenal (a)
Prior to winning the EFL Cup on 26 Feb. During that time we also beat City, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool at home and drew with Chelsea and Newcastle.
After 26th Feb 2023, and a 2-0 League cup final win over Newcastle we then lost:
7-0 v Liverpool (a)
2-0 v Newcastle (a)
1-0 v Brighton (a)
1-0 v West Ham (a)
And ended up finishing 3rd in the table. There was a noticeable downturn in performances in the second half of the season that people put down to fatigue.
Then we move on to last season, and I will include CL matches now too. During the season we lost:
0-2 v Spurs (a) PL
1-3 v Arsenal (a) PL
1-3 v Brighton (h) PL
0-1 v Palace (h) PL
0-3 v City (h) PL
0-3 v Newcastle (h) EFL Cup
0-1 v Newcastle (a) PL
0-3 v Bournemouth (h) PL
0-2 v West Ham (a) PL
3-4 v Bayern (a) CL
2-3 v Galatasaray (h) CL
3-4 v Copenhagen (a) CL
0-1 v Bayern (h) CL
13 losses by Christmas. 4 of 6 games lost in our CL group, one win vs Copenhagen, and a 3-3 draw vs Galatasaray. We finished bottom of our group and out of Europe. We also already had 8 league losses by Dec. 25th conceding 18 goals in the process. We conceded 15 goals in 6 games in a CL group with 4 games against Copenhagen and Galatasaray. Truly biblically awful stuff.
Never fear, there was still the post Christmas run to turn things around:
1-2 v Forest (a) PL
1-2 v Fulham (h) PL
1-3 v City (a) PL
3-4 v Chelsea (a) PL
0-4 v Palace (a) PL
0-1 v Arsenal (h) PL
Oh. Another 6 PL losses. 8th in the league. 14 losses. A negative 1 goal difference. We scored 3 less goals than West Ham, who sacked their manager for not being entertaining enough. But……we won the FA Cup.
So far this season, our home form reads:
1-0 v Fulham (PL)
0-3 v Liverpool (PL)
1-1 v Twente (EL)
0-3 vs Spurs (PL)
And away:
1-2 v Brighton (PL)
3-0 v Southampton (PL)
0-0 v Palace (PL)
3-3 v Porto (EL)
0-0 v Villa (PL)
I haven’t even bothered getting into draws etc for previous seasons, but just across the first two seasons, there are so many hefty beatings, and so many games where we have haemorrhaged goals, it’s truly fecking remarkable that this man is in a job. It also shows that the longer he has been in charge, the worse we have steadily gotten. Our best period under him was the first 6 months, and it’s been a sharp decline, never ending, since.
Look at that list of results and tell me which level of club it best represents. I’d say someone like Bournemouth, but can’t because in there is a 3-0 hiding at home from….you guessed it….Bournemouth.
His position is untenable and it has been for ages. These results, just the results, not even the eye test, show a team that has no tactical structure at all. No significant goal scoring threat, and zero defensive solidity. This is also during a period in which 600m has been spent on players.
It is…..unbelievable.
Some of us saw it for what it is!Hey, don't tar everyone with the same brush. Some of us wanted him out a long time ago!
Top 4 is a long shot at this point (currently 7/1) so it's not that simple sadly.The cost thing doesn't make any sense either considering we stand to lose a lot more by not making top 4/5.
I actually think there's a couple of key decision makers in this new set-up that are still against sacking him. That's the only explanation left, really. I doubt it's all of them, but this is the only thing that makes sense.
Yes, and the further they delay his sacking, the more unlikely it is.Top 4 is a long shot at this point (currently 7/1) so it's not that simple sadly.
I mean, if that’s actually verified, then fair enough.He is the source. He works at Carrington in the data analytics dept.
In Erik’s first season we lost:
2-1 v Brighton (h)
4-0 v Brentford (a)
6-3 v City (a)
3-1 v Villa (a)
3-2 v Arsenal (a)
Prior to winning the EFL Cup on 26 Feb. During that time we also beat City, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool at home and drew with Chelsea and Newcastle.
After 26th Feb 2023, and a 2-0 League cup final win over Newcastle we then lost:
7-0 v Liverpool (a)
2-0 v Newcastle (a)
1-0 v Brighton (a)
1-0 v West Ham (a)
And ended up finishing 3rd in the table. There was a noticeable downturn in performances in the second half of the season that people put down to fatigue.
Then we move on to last season, and I will include CL matches now too. During the season we lost:
0-2 v Spurs (a) PL
1-3 v Arsenal (a) PL
1-3 v Brighton (h) PL
0-1 v Palace (h) PL
0-3 v City (h) PL
0-3 v Newcastle (h) EFL Cup
0-1 v Newcastle (a) PL
0-3 v Bournemouth (h) PL
0-2 v West Ham (a) PL
3-4 v Bayern (a) CL
2-3 v Galatasaray (h) CL
3-4 v Copenhagen (a) CL
0-1 v Bayern (h) CL
13 losses by Christmas. 4 of 6 games lost in our CL group, one win vs Copenhagen, and a 3-3 draw vs Galatasaray. We finished bottom of our group and out of Europe. We also already had 8 league losses by Dec. 25th conceding 18 goals in the process. We conceded 15 goals in 6 games in a CL group with 4 games against Copenhagen and Galatasaray. Truly biblically awful stuff.
Never fear, there was still the post Christmas run to turn things around:
1-2 v Forest (a) PL
1-2 v Fulham (h) PL
1-3 v City (a) PL
3-4 v Chelsea (a) PL
0-4 v Palace (a) PL
0-1 v Arsenal (h) PL
Oh. Another 6 PL losses. 8th in the league. 14 losses. A negative 1 goal difference. We scored 3 less goals than West Ham, who sacked their manager for not being entertaining enough. But……we won the FA Cup.
So far this season, our home form reads:
1-0 v Fulham (PL)
0-3 v Liverpool (PL)
1-1 v Twente (EL)
0-3 vs Spurs (PL)
And away:
1-2 v Brighton (PL)
3-0 v Southampton (PL)
0-0 v Palace (PL)
3-3 v Porto (EL)
0-0 v Villa (PL)
I haven’t even bothered getting into draws etc for previous seasons, but just across the first two seasons, there are so many hefty beatings, and so many games where we have haemorrhaged goals, it’s truly fecking remarkable that this man is in a job. It also shows that the longer he has been in charge, the worse we have steadily gotten. Our best period under him was the first 6 months, and it’s been a sharp decline, never ending, since.
Look at that list of results and tell me which level of club it best represents. I’d say someone like Bournemouth, but can’t because in there is a 3-0 hiding at home from….you guessed it….Bournemouth.
His position is untenable and it has been for ages. These results, just the results, not even the eye test, show a team that has no tactical structure at all. No significant goal scoring threat, and zero defensive solidity. This is also during a period in which 600m has been spent on players.
It is…..unbelievable.
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We wanted this version of ETH and his tactics adapted to United & our players. That deserves to have full support, current ETH deserves full support also, but the thing is he has had it. We haven't seen him fix the major flaws that have hindered our development and throttled our results.
Managers deserve also to get sacked if their work hasn't been up to standard. And up until now, our standards haven't been met.
Despite spending £600 million. Poor ETHHe can’t play like he did with Ajax here remember, he doesn’t have the players.
Also poor, but Brentford really topped it for me. Performance wise.Crystal Palace? Bournemouth?
These guys seem same as glazers.
no other top club would have ten hag till now.
If it was the first season of his i would trust the process but cmon now.
RelaxThis club is actually dead. It should just retire itself from the footballing side and announce itself as something else.
Bit rich to call for patience when this shitshow has been going on for 120 or so gamesPatience. They won't sack him over SMS.
No news from Carrington, only a handful of players turned in today as it is an international break Eth is now on holiday and today's meeting was never about ETH but obviously it will have been discussed, Players and staff don't want him to return from holiday