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there's 300-ish that still haven't changed their votes. they're either ashamed or they're truly Spartans.
'Tonight we dine in hell' kind of status
'Tonight we dine in hell' kind of status
Can you blame him? Main CB signing gets injured in pre season. Main LB is out injured. Main RB is being forced to play out of position. Main DM signing arrives late without a pre season. This makeshift defence was always going to struggle.
You know what? I’m just sad. I had very high hopes for ETH. And I see it’s going nowhere. Maybe he doesn’t have the players he needs, maybe he needs something else. I’m sad as I think we’ve tried everything post Fergie and nothing worked
I always believed that he was the guy for us! Never in doubt!
Edit: forgot I was watching this on delay. fecking bullshit, I knew he was the wrong guy for us the entire time.
Stop making excuses. His CB pairing he was happy to shell out around £90m for. These are not second choice. His RB would prob start ahead of Dalot. The LB position is his only gap in the whole starting 11. Even you’re trying to get a response or utterly deluded like the rest of his fan club.Can you blame him? Main CB signing gets injured in pre season. Main LB is out injured. Main RB is being forced to play out of position. Main DM signing arrives late without a pre season. This makeshift defence was always going to struggle.
I'm guessing he needs until the end of a third season to finally fix something. I'm standing in front of a wall with my brushes and a tin of paint. Hours go by and my missus finds me sitting on my arse doing feck all, none of the walls painted. I tell her I'll get it done before next week, yet I do nothing. Just sit there looking at the wall. Eventually, two months later, she finds me still sitting there doing feck all. And the only thing on the bare walls is a cruedly painted cock and balls.
We haven't tried a young coach. There are a dozen or so coaches in the 30-45 age category who are making a big impact across Europe.You know what? I’m just sad. I had very high hopes for ETH. And I see it’s going nowhere. Maybe he doesn’t have the players he needs, maybe he needs something else. I’m sad as I think we’ve tried everything post Fergie and nothing worked
I fear we don’t have the money to sack him and then get his replacement through the door
Those '2 all time greats' were both clearly past their best by the time that they joined us. LVG never managed a club side again after us (indeed it was another five years before he managed anything again), and Mourinho has had to settle for smaller and smaller clubs at every stage as he continuously fails at each level.6 managers without any consistency including 2 of the all time greats and we're NOWHERE near being out of this. One bad marriage, maybe it's HER fault, 2? Maybe her too but after 5 or six, YOU are the problem.
And if you don't like those excuses, I have plenty more.
Should have used the Ugarte money to sack him. ten Hag would have preferred to keep McTominay if he got his way.I fear we don’t have the money to sack him and then get his replacement through the door
The real concern is breaching financial fair play, though I don't know if the summer outgoings have helped there.INEOS is a multi billion pound company. It's not about not having the money.
14 goals in the last 6 games. At least he has sorted out the goal scoring issues from last season.
Now he needs the players to stop letting him down in defence. So many individual mistakes that shouldn’t be happening. Think we should be set once Shaw and Yoro are back. They are high IQ players who are able to follow instructions.
He is lucky that he's won trophies as without them I think he'd be comfortably seen as the worst manager you've had post-Fergie.
Honestly, look at this message. what to do with this kind of braindead thinking? Absolutely garbage logic and low iq level of reasoning. First of all, it’s not a god damn marriage. It’s a sport where you hire managers and sign players every season to enhance your football team. Most often than not they don’t fit. So you move on and sign more players until they perform for you.6 managers without any consistency including 2 of the all time greats and we're NOWHERE near being out of this. One bad marriage, maybe it's HER fault, 2? Maybe her too but after 5 or six, YOU are the problem.
10 against Barnsley and Southampton.
7 of them against Barnsley.
Also absolutely nothing indicating he’s capable of sorting out the defense.
Look at the managers we've hired, they all play vastly different styles which means they've had to go buy half a new squad to even try to play their way, which generally backfired.Honestly, look at this message. what to do with this kind of braindead thinking? Absolutely garbage logic and low iq level of reasoning. First of all, it’s not a god damn marriage. It’s a sport where you hire managers and sign players every season to enhance your football team. Most often than not they don’t fit. So you move on and sign more players until they perform for you.
Secondly, we aren’t a fecking unique club operating in a different league on a different planet. Every club go through this literally every damn club. You name it. Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool etc etc etc. And how do you get it right? Keep hiring until you do get it right especially when the structure is there now. Opinions like your post should be chucked into the toilet because that’s where they belong.
@Acquire Me Told you someone was going to defend him14 goals in the last 6 games. At least he has sorted out the goal scoring issues from last season.
Now he needs the players to stop letting him down in defence. So many individual mistakes that shouldn’t be happening. Think we should be set once Shaw and Yoro are back. They are high IQ players who are able to follow instructions.
Villa will embarrass us on Sunday you'd think.
The funniest thing is that ETH fans will use it to his defence and there's a good chance he survives because of this one point. Lose to Villa now, and we're still in good spot with EtH just needing a little bit more time and a full preseason.Scraping a draw in a Europa League game on a Thursday night. Oh how the standards have fallen
To be honest, ten Hag's style has been very similar to Ole's in terms of depending on fast transitions and counter attacks.Look at the managers we've hired, they all play vastly different styles which means they've had to go buy half a new squad to even try to play their way.
You mention Liverpool, his style is an adaptation of Klopps... It's not some radical swing and they're playing it having signed no new players. They've not gone for some big name who plays a vastly different style to the squad they've built. That's having leadership with a brain.
Harsh on Ruud. He's been here, what, a few months? As shown with McKenna (& Carrick), it's not always the case where assistants are clueless. It's just possible that the manager doesn't give them enough scope to make a massive difference. Not that I'm advocating for Ruud.Ten Hag's voice actually irritates me now. Looks more clueless after each game. Villa will put the stamp on the passport of his inevitable sacking. Ruud should not get the job on a temporary basis either. He has been a part of a failing cohort of management. Send them all packing.
Sigh. No white text.I'm still backing him. Tired of us constantly sacking managers to then move onto someone completely different, who would want a different set of players and different set of style that will take us another 2-3 years to recover from. Give him to whole season at least and without pressure that he can be sacked at any time. The constant negativity around the club will only be detrimental right now.
I mean, are there like legit still people defending EtH to the point you're able to call them "fans"? I mean what could they possibly still be clinging onto?The funniest thing is that ETH fans will use it to his defence and there's a good chance he survives because of this one point. Lose to Villa now, and we're still in good spot with EtH just needing a little bit more time and a full preseason.
Yeah, feck winning right?I'm still backing him. Tired of us constantly sacking managers to then move onto someone completely different, who would want a different set of players and different set of style that will take us another 2-3 years to recover from. Give him to whole season at least and without pressure that he can be sacked at any time. The constant negativity around the club will only be detrimental right now.
"Love's gonna get you killedI mean, are there like legit still people defending EtH to the point you're able to call them "fans"? I mean what could they possibly still be clinging onto?
Firstly, why would getting a new manager inevitably turn to shit in 2+ years? Just because it has in the past, when we've had an incompetent boardroom hiring incompetent managers? Maybe, just maybe, the hierarchy is now improved and hires someone who is more aligned to where we want to be (even if they aren't necessarily going to be the one to take us all the way).I have a perverse curiousity to how things would go if we doubled down and publicly said he will at the very least see out his contract
We know what happens when he’s sacked. We get someone else, have a bounce and then 2 years and X months in, when it turns shit, we rinse and repeat
But what would happen if we decided to just stick with someone and saw a 3rd, 4th and 5th season out of them?
Would it stay shite the whole time or would players realise the manager isn’t going anywhere regardless and get their heads down?
I think he’ll be sacked on Tuesday if we lose to Villa though, and that he’s shit
I agree, though I'm not sure if that's something ETH has done by freewill or because of the reality of the squad he had considering it's not how his Ajax team played and I think he alluded to it himself early on. Granted it gets harder to explain as time has gone on.To be honest, ten Hag's style has been very similar to Ole's in terms of depending on fast transitions and counter attacks.
We (fans) thought ten Hag would bring a more controlled approach, with an emphasis on possession. We were wrong.
Don’t think they watch us play.Sigh. No white text.
Rashers is capable of doing that. He’s also capable of a season of not trying. And that’s why his type ain’t suited to a team wanting to win the league.People say this about Rashford but what if he gets 30 goals next season under a new manager? Who was to blame then? I think people are just hung up on his contract more than anything.
He'll be gone during the break. We've had what, 3 wins? Fulham, Southampton and Barnsley. Piss poor.
6 managers without any consistency including 2 of the all time greats and we're NOWHERE near being out of this. One bad marriage, maybe it's HER fault, 2? Maybe her too but after 5 or six, YOU are the problem.
Best saviours in the classThat's why this is so depressing. We know ETH needs to go, but the longer he stays, the worse it looks for INEOS. I fear this lot aren't the saviours that we were promised.