appleman
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it's like you only read 3 words out of my post? Besides that, his 3rd year only just started and 18 months ago (February 2023) people were still pretty positive about ETH, so my points would have been odd at the time, too.He’s had 3 fecking years and an entire new XI of players to build a solid team and plan. This argument is gone now (where it might have been valid 18 months ago)
Sick of hearing this rhetoric
And since I said it would make perfect sense to say goodbye to each other by now, seasons and dynamics also change. And since it literally is a new season with quite a new setup in seemingly core positions, it very much is at the start of a new foundation as well. Even if they just got Mbappe, Pedri and Rodri they wouldn't magically gel together into a CL-winning team in a new place, with Mbappe being an actual example at Madrid of needing time, even though Ancelotti is already there and so are most of his teammates. New season, new dynamics.
ETH doesn't particularly deserve a new chance, but since the season's just begun with many changes to the staff, club structure and, yes, the squad, it would be a bit ridiculous to go full tantrum now before deciding whether this is too close to unsalvagable.
Everyone would understand firing ETH this past summer and even right now, but leading any company would not show great leadership to go all Laurentiis and fire everyone if things don't go smooth-sailing in a very dependency-based field of profession. And if they do decide to fire him, at least have a plan ready to go in a new direction that doesn't make all decisions made over the past 3 months or so completely ridiculous. ETH has too many excuses nowadays, but they're not all completely based on absolutely nothing.
Again, it would make sense to let go off ETH, especially within football culture and particularly considering the way things have gone since about the second half of his first season.
But this summer they decided that the FA Cup win or whatever it actually was, was enough reason to see where the new setups could lead with him at the helm of the football team, so going this far now would be super dramatic.
It's a new season. Not a new manager, a new season. De Ligt is new, Zirkzee is new, Ugarte is new, Mazraoui is new, Amad (often) starting is quite new, Mainoo is super young and him starting is also quite new, Licha is just back, Shaw is Houdini, Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen, Rashford, Maguire and Bruno are doing some Houdini acts of their own, Dalot and Garnacho are not at the consistency or age to lead the team, Bruno is unreliable as at least a leading midfielder, Onana is still not consistent enough. And it all shows. Whether that's all ETH's fault? Probably at least partly, I doubt it being all on him. That's why I think it's ridiculous as a company that takes itself seriously to throw all your plans out the window two-three months after making them (WHILE announcing they were far from ready and to not expect consistency). You can disagree all you want, but that doesn't make throwing some random time frame without any context suddenly some common sensical neutral objectivity.
I can see this not getting any better, but I can also see it improving. As of now, no one knows what tomorrow looks like. You have no faith in it looking brighter with ETH there, I think if you put him in the sunlight, his bald head could reflect just in the right direction to blind their goalkeeper and have Zirkzee score his second goal because Hojlund missed his through pass. But that also sounds a bit ridiculous to me and might not happen in the slightest. Will find out tomorrow (but in actuality today, I guess?)