'Despite him having the support of the dressing room, there is a growing feeling among the squad that he can't stop the rot, and that change is inevitable.'
Who we gettin' sack next innit?
Who we gettin' sack next innit?
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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But if you ignore all the times we conceded goals, I'd say we have.
Which is a damn shame for the players who have just arrived and bloody disgraceful.
That’s it, these fecking players are letting him down again. We have to stop this, can’t fire him, let him replace the entire team with players he can rely on.
Well he's already replaced 13 of the 20 in the team and given an extra 2 of them their debuts so it's more or less HIS team already...
Yeah he needs players he can trust. Perhaps a load of Dutch and ex Ajax players.
We should start bringing in players he's worked with.
Just sign Tadic and ask him to replicate his 2019 CL season. That was our entire strategy with ETH anyway.
Let’s sign him some Ajax players and see whether he can get the best out of them. May give us a sense of direction.
Mou was different. Many posters actively hated him. They used to get triggered every time he opened his mouth. They would believe Woodward over Mou.
I'm just gutted about the whole thing. We look like we are in a huge mess, he clearly needs to go but there is no one to take his place.
Can't even remember our last good performance except the cup final. We are spirally so badly.
Can't even remember our last good performance except the cup final. We are spirally so badly.
The club being a mess doesn't change the fact that he was and still is a miserable sod when the going gets tough
The fact that he's probably been our best manager post-Fergie says much more about the club than it does credit to him.
LVG was painful tactically but quite likable personality wise.
Jose was more tactically astute but always cut a sour and mercurial figure.
Ole was very naive tactically but always affable until the end and still a club legend.
ETH is neither up to snuff tactically or an inspiring/pleasant personality off the pitch
When your as bad as we currently are, there are multiple coaches around the world who are all a significant improvement over this imposter.
If we wish to continue to be considered as an Elite Club, ETH must be sacked either after Thursday or in the international break, he’s simply not good enough, he’s not flexible enough and he’s never been good enough, his comments when he said his dream was to be chairmen of FC Twente tells the fans everything they need to know, he needs to go and asap, so we can stop appointing people who don’t understand the enormity of the club or the responsibility to the fans, this is why I’d sack him immediately and give RVN a chance who at least does understand the club and would be able to hopefully get the most out of all the Dutch players and Dutch league players.
I've been like that for quite a while with this prat.
What's this?
What’s up with the all doom and gloom and this fanbase being horrified at the thought of changing managers
Stop panicking. Under performing managers getting sacked is normal forget the awful ones. Our squad is neither bad nor aging. Sure it needs some reinforcements but it’s still good enough to have a good season IF we get a competent and progressive manager. And there are plenty of them available who are better than this sitting duck. Cheer up, Heh. And be positive. Heh.Don't even remember this
I do, unfortunately. Was just like the Spurs game in many ways, they played us off the park and should have scored more. The ground was empty long before full time. It was just one of the very dark moments we've had under ETH, it's actually incredible that he's still here when you think about it. I've never known a manager as lucky as him. I don't there'll ever be another at a top club who puts up with the shit for so long.
Let's not forget a lot of these are his ex players... he has nowhere to hide because he's worked with them previously, obviously requested them, and now can't even get them to play like professional footballers
He's long been prepared to die on the Rashy/Bruno hill
There's clearly still bad apples at the club, the attitude of multiple players recently has been shocking but why will they care they still get their hundreds of thousands a week
He's long been prepared to die on the Rashy/Bruno hill
There's clearly still bad apples at the club, the attitude of multiple players recently has been shocking but why will they care they still get their hundreds of thousands a week
The coaches sack themselves by signing shit players and rewarding shit perfomances.
We only won the cup final by abandoning his system and reverting to Oleball.
Listening to the Talking Devils podcast with Wayne Barton, Dave Murphy and Paul Parker (I think it's the best United pod out there) and hearing them all in agreement that that's that, Erik has lost all support. There is no one left defending him now. Sad state of affairs, and quite mad to be going into two matches this week with him as a lame duck, but as I've said elsewhere here I think it will be better for whoever steps in (likely Ruud) to get some time to prepare over the International break and not mess up a potential positive upswing.
I don't remember the polls ever ticking past 60% sack for Jose, LVG or OGS but I might be wrong.
Certainly feels like a larger majority are now vocally calling for EtH to go than ever actively championed sacking previous managers.
EtH is the first manager in my lifetime I have ever openly suggested we should sack - because it was obvious from Palace at home last season that he was taking us down a dead end
Just watching a clip of that show on Ziggo Sport and in the same way as Owen and Scholes, they are ripping him to shreds. All the usual points are coming up - no discernible style of play or even hint of a coherent vision after more than two years, disastrous in every phase of play and all this with a team shaped by him.
Yeah Werner instead of Son kept the score down
Vote didn't need to change. It was 'sack' already, because reaching this point was inevitable given our performances last season. He can't get 11 players out there that want to give their all for him, or know how to play in his system. It's odd that he's not tried picking fresh players, and instead kept persisting with those that have let him down consistently. Maybe the sack is appealing to him, he's deluded and thinks everything is on track, too stubborn to change his system, or he wants to take reputations down with his own.
Our new footballing operation has let us down though already, there's nothing decisive or competent about giving our rivals a head start in the league. Maybe Ruud coming in was preparation for a quick installation of an interim, but it's pointless not biting the bullet. It's months too late as it is.
Our new footballing operation has let us down though already, there's nothing decisive or competent about giving our rivals a head start in the league. Maybe Ruud coming in was preparation for a quick installation of an interim, but it's pointless not biting the bullet. It's months too late as it is.
Should be gone.
I just hope we don’t go into a death spiral where we keep him on until we’re stuck around 15th, then have to pay him off a big chunk which eats into our transfer budget and psr means we struggle to get above average players which means we become mid table or worse long term.
I think we need some of the promising youth recruitment to bear fruit.
If I was ineos, I’d be doing everything to get Nagelsman. And if you can’t get him, give McKenna the job on a short contract where he can easily be let go if we don’t see big improvements in a year.
I just hope we don’t go into a death spiral where we keep him on until we’re stuck around 15th, then have to pay him off a big chunk which eats into our transfer budget and psr means we struggle to get above average players which means we become mid table or worse long term.
I think we need some of the promising youth recruitment to bear fruit.
If I was ineos, I’d be doing everything to get Nagelsman. And if you can’t get him, give McKenna the job on a short contract where he can easily be let go if we don’t see big improvements in a year.
All of them managers won something, which is mind boggling considering how woefully bad we have been through the last decade.The club being a mess doesn't change the fact that he was and still is a miserable sod when the going gets tough
The fact that he's probably been our best manager post-Fergie says much more about the club than it does credit to him.
LVG was painful tactically but quite likable personality wise. Won a trophy.
Jose was more tactically astute but always cut a sour and mercurial figure. Won a trophy.
Ole was very naive tactically but always affable until the end and still a club legend.
ETH is neither up to snuff tactically or an inspiring/pleasant personality off the pitch. Won trophies.
Probably because he's so far up the arse of SEG (Erik's management company)
He absolutely is. He is very talented at selling clicks and views. If you watch him for even 5min, you’ll see he delivers superficial, low calorie content
Iraola is a candidate we should be talking about in my opinion. He's playing good, effective football with a borderline championship level squad.
That’s literally how I am with ETH. Everytime he opens his mouth he is delusional and gives excuses. I can’t stand him and I can honestly say I have never wanted a United manager sacked more than I have with ETH, even more than Moyes and Mou.
I said at the time they cocked up the manager “search” after the FA Cup win that they were looking like Glazers 2.0. People went mental with that statement. Said I couldn’t even enjoy the cup win…
Well, here we are. 6 weeks into the new and we are in 12th. They didn’t make the right decision to sack him after last season’s miserable campaign.
I think we’re just wasting time. Get him out now. Give it to Ruud for the next couple games, then go get Allegri or Tuchel or whoever.
Yup. I'm exactly the same. I can't stand the sight of the cnut!
13th.
It’s weird, as much as I want him sacked and have done for pretty much the best part of 12 months now, I don’t actually dislike the guy. I think he’s trying his best, and he genuinely believes in his methods, it’s just not working.
While I couldn’t stand Moyes, LVG & Jose by the end of their tenures, I just feel sorry for ETH. He’s like an animal that needs to be put out to slaughter. Watching him try to muddle on through is just sad now.
He is now due compensation for the extra activated year, full salary most likely, so in a way, the terms have changed. Even if we go for a coach who is already under contract, we will have to pay a fee, whether that's Iraola, McKena etc.
Both of these fees combined make his stay a big, big and a expensive mistake.
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