Fulham in sixth.. Man Utd in 12th.
Three 3-0 losses in six games.
Yeah, this isn’t working out Erik..
Three 3-0 losses in six games.
Yeah, this isn’t working out Erik..
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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Well from what we’ve seen on the pitch so far over his tenure the training and coaching him and his team give is atrocious.
It's easy in hindsight to say ETH should have been sacked in the summer.
The reality is he was winning things, he was starting to get his own team together, he just had one of the worst injury hit seasons in our clubs history and no other great options for manager were on the market.
It was the right call to keep him on, if anything just to see if he could build on the FA Cup win.
He hasn't and its time to move him on. Its not a case of "I told you so" like some fans are running with.
INEOS have havn't done anything wrong here in my opinion.
The reality is he was winning things, he was starting to get his own team together, he just had one of the worst injury hit seasons in our clubs history and no other great options for manager were on the market.
It was the right call to keep him on, if anything just to see if he could build on the FA Cup win.
He hasn't and its time to move him on. Its not a case of "I told you so" like some fans are running with.
INEOS have havn't done anything wrong here in my opinion.
Is anyone surprised by the result today?
Maybe we played even worse than expected but 0-3 doesnt even raise an eyebrow these days, business as usual from Ten Hag.
Maybe we played even worse than expected but 0-3 doesnt even raise an eyebrow these days, business as usual from Ten Hag.
Funny thing is, through all of this the last few years, I’ve actually learned that I dislike a lot of our fanbase just as much as the bad managers etc we have had. All equally set us back as a club.
I wonder will we at least get rumours of him having the next two games to save his job tonight.
Yes, the pressing structure was identical. The biggest issue is that Liverpool were miles better at using the high turnovers than we were, and that's been a constant with Ten Hag - we're generally excellent at winning the ball high, and absolutely awful at turning those high turnovers into chances and/or goals.
I do think that we should adopt a more measured approach, but no system will succeed with the kind of basic errors and awful finishing we see from United nowadays.
We finished 8th with a negative GD, of course he should have been sacked.
It was ridiculous that he was allowed to stay because INEOS was afraid to sack him and some supporters was blinded by the cup.
I was an eth apologist for 2 years but this was the straw that broke the camels back. Need to get him out.
What a fantastic birthday for me though
What a fantastic birthday for me though
Totally disagree. I'd take 2nd in PL and no FA Cup over 8th in PL and an FA Cup, every time. Because a team that finishes second is much closer than one that finishes eight to the only thing that really matters, which is a PL title. There are no other fecking (domestic) titles, just consolation prizes.
We all knew Ten Hag would use the red as an excuse.
But did he know that we'd know that?
Going by his judgement of opposition...
no.
But did he know that we'd know that?
Going by his judgement of opposition...
no.
There was more than enough evidence to conclude he wasn't good enough to take United where the new owner claims he wants the club to be.
What we're seeing now is only a continuation of what we were seeing last season, only without the excuse of injuries to hide behind.
They absolutely did make the wrong decision.
Yup, that's been one of most striking things for me, too. I absolutely detest the fan clubs that our failed managers have.
I don’t blame ineos for keeping him at the time (there were no options) but I hope we have a replacement lined up, he’s a dead man walking at this stage .
Hes getting infuriating now.
What is the plan Erik?
What is the plan Erik?
Same
United has lost with 3 goals or more 23 times since Fergie stopped. Fergie lost with 3 goals or more 22 times in his whole United career.
Nonsense.
You can't change your vote.
highly doubt he'll be sacked this early week, it'll probably be after Villa as I can see us losing the next two games. INEOS strike me as cowards unfortunately.
It's wasn't the right decision and many pointed it out back then
It's a one way ticket back to the Eredivisie if he wants to continue as a manager now.
He could feesibly have landed a decent job in the summer if we'd got rid a couple of weeks after the FA Cup final. We did him, and ourselves no favours keeping him.
He could feesibly have landed a decent job in the summer if we'd got rid a couple of weeks after the FA Cup final. We did him, and ourselves no favours keeping him.
He had a -goal difference for Christ sake. Nothing to do with hindsight, it was obvious last season he was useless
It was pretty obvious to many people that our bad results last season weren’t due to injuries and tactics fundamentally. It’s fine if some fans and INEOS didn’t buy into it but it doesn’t mean they can consider themselves blameless. When ETH got a new contract, most opposition fans were pretty happy, which should indicate to a degree why it was a bad decision.
This is what the club does.
I tend to agree. The self righteousness and constant romanticizing is embarrassing
But if the system allows us to concede multiple goals with ease then we’re simply set up wrong. The first rule of football is be hard to beat, not wide open.
We’re easy to play against because we’re always looking to break fast when we win the ball and if you’re an organised team you can easily cut out the passes. I’ve been saying this for weeks, losing the ball near the half way line shouldn’t result in the opposition having an unchallenged shot on goal and scoring, but it does almost every time. There should be loads to do from that position.
It’s a failure of coaching and a flawed system that doesn’t work in this league or Europe.
I suspect that the replacement won't be available yet which is why we stuck with ETH, so we'll end up with whoever's available as a caretaker for now.
Bruno doing so much better
Bruno should never be a captain but giving a cap to Brickhead is an absolute insult, people like Vidic (for example) had to bleed on pitch, put their body on the line to earn it and here some Ole giving to someone who joined day before.
Why even let him take the team to Portugal
I mean, I'm pretty sure they interviewed about 4 options and probably overlooked many others. There are managers at other clubs that are attainable if we pay off their current club. So I'm not buying there were no options.
There may not have been a "perfect" option that ticks every single box, but unless we're getting Pep or Klopp I don't think this mythical perfect manager exists.
Nah this is a load of garbage, plenty of us were screaming from the mountaintops that it was a stupid decision to keep him and had been saying so since last January.
And then we all collectively rolled our eyes with the sentiment shift post cup win. It was embarrassing.
Agreed. I've said a few times that a serious club would bin him by tomorrow afternoon. But, I won't hold out hope.
Find it hilarious how people say there were no options when Liverpool and Chelsea both found a manager without much fuss. As if it’s so difficult to improve on fecking Ten Hag
Yeah give it Ruud to buy ourselves some time and if he wants Ole as assistant then I could live with that
Despite all the shite, the thing that has been annoying me most lately is the pace of the play. It's either snails pace or 100mph, there's no sustained intensity or pressure.
It's all too slow in the build, looking like it's LVG Dutch football numbers again. Then it becomes frantic 100mph when pressing and winning the ball back high. It's not good football to watch, opposition teams just sit back and let you have then hit you on the break.
I've backed him a lot, but I just don't see where he can go from here or if he can turn it around.
It's all too slow in the build, looking like it's LVG Dutch football numbers again. Then it becomes frantic 100mph when pressing and winning the ball back high. It's not good football to watch, opposition teams just sit back and let you have then hit you on the break.
I've backed him a lot, but I just don't see where he can go from here or if he can turn it around.
Stunning really isn't it.
I wouldnt want Pep anywhere near this club no matter how good he is
2 trophies in 2 years, he
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