Of course it would
There's plenty to criticise recently without making up stupid statements like this.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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Of course it would
There's plenty to criticise recently without making up stupid statements like this.
Hags, it's Tottenham.
Im not sure it would, newly promoted Leicester managed to get a draw at home to Spurs so the only acceptable outcome for us should be a win.
I think Spurs will surprise a few with how much better they are than us.
Because you see teams with first year managers absolutely drilling average and poor sides, while our 3rd year manager talks about the "process" after going toe to toe against the same sides.
But hey our fanbase wrote a fecking petition to keep him and blamed the Glazers for why he was a shit manager.
Hey, there was no one out there that's an obvious upgrade on Ten Hag though!
Season is getting very serious very quickly.
There are no excuses; Chelsea, Newcastle and Villa are all either getting their act together or are actually flying and that's before we talk about the top of the table.
The season absolutely cannot be written off nor should it be acceptable to have the aforementioned leave us in the dust, especially Chelsea who were expected to have a worse time of it than we're seeing.
Huge pressure game tomorrow, outside of talk about styles and tactics. For now, points are everything to keep us in the pack.
There are no excuses; Chelsea, Newcastle and Villa are all either getting their act together or are actually flying and that's before we talk about the top of the table.
The season absolutely cannot be written off nor should it be acceptable to have the aforementioned leave us in the dust, especially Chelsea who were expected to have a worse time of it than we're seeing.
Huge pressure game tomorrow, outside of talk about styles and tactics. For now, points are everything to keep us in the pack.
The more you watch other teams the more you realize how far behind we are.
It’s kind of crazy for me to think that I enjoyed watching us the most when Ole was at the wheel and I was desperate to see him leave towards the end of his United managerial career.
Our lack of progress since has been frightening.
Our lack of progress since has been frightening.
The manager but also the players he's bought. Miles away.
Its a first season honeymoon period. Tell me how ten hags first season went.
Ange is currently playing better football than we have this season? Nah, not for me. Wasn't great vs Brentford, wasn't good vs Arsenal. Skimmed it against an easier tie in Europe. Played a shit game vs Coventry.
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Using your own logic, ETH’s first season must have just been a honeymoon period then.
Every manager has a honeymoon period. That's my point. It's included and not limited to United managers.
My point was just that we can't conclude Chelsea have sorted all their issues out.
If its fear of failure football again tomorrow there has to be repercussions enough is enough.
But we definitely can conclude Ten Hag is not good enough and should be replaced.
What are reasons that he should be given more time? I dont see any
The simple reason is that a decision was made in summer to continue with him, and now the season has only started. I'm sure the new executives and DoF will assess his performance soberly in relation to the goals and expectations envisioned for this season, so it is not like he is safe whatever he does in the coming weeks. But it is still not really the time to make that judgement now.
We will win this tomorrow fairly easily…..a few goals, Ange moans after and we slowly progress until the next hiccup.
Well so far from the Ten Hag in crowd we’ve seen “injuries, rebuild, squad not good enough, system needs to click, xg, there’s no other good managers, we just need to finish our chances, Chelsea haven’t sorted all their issues out”.
Yet to see any actual reasons rather than excuses yet though.
If Moyesie had one, it lasted 2 games.
After 2 full seasons and spent so much money, this are only excuses indeed
Once you are too far away from too 4 you wont make it. Another season without CL would be bad. So if he does jot win the next games he is out, irrespective how early in the season
Damn it. I forgot about the “Ineos almost sacked him but didn’t sack him therefore they backed him therefore they can’t sack him yet because it’s too early even though we’re in his third season so we have to wait till our season’s completely fecked, probably by Christmas” one.
I knew there was a key one I was missing.
You just can't predict how the Spurs game will go, we could just as easily win 2-0 than we could lose 0-4, the only guarantee is we won't score many goals and Ten Hag will get the subs wrong.
If it's a disaster tomorrow then Ten Hag is really on the rack this coming week.
If it's a disaster tomorrow then Ten Hag is really on the rack this coming week.
There's a case to be made that we've actually regressed.
You can.
Well if you bucket every piece of context as just some excuse it becomes a pointless debate.
Ah yes, our manager is shit because of “context”. That’s a great new catch-all one to excuse our failures with.
The squad is young is the latest (it's not compared to others though).
Desperately needs a convincing performance and a win. Against a more attacking opponent, it's not impossible either. You just never know with this team and manager.
You can't seem to post without constant hyperbole can you? It's like reading the script of an Indian TV seriel.
Classic
The day can’t come soon enough.
Don’t worry - you’re not the only one here that struggles to identify sarcasm. It can afflict us all.
I can sense sarcasm. It's clear you weren't being sarcastic, unless you wanted to defeat your own argument.
In fairness, I don’t think that will surprise many of us? The ETHFC might pretend to be shocked, but will point to Luke Shaw not been available.
The petty back and forths filling up pages; what on earth do you get from it?
That’s very obviously sarcasm. I don’t actually think that “context” is a great new excuse for our failures under Ten Hag. I actually think it’s just another incredibly weak excuse in a very long line of weak excuses.
My other post listing the reasons to “keep Ten Hag” was definitely tongue in cheek, but was absolutely based on the very real parade of excuses that have been routinely trotted out by you and many others on these pages.
Crazy how Slot and Maresca don’t need 3 years
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