Sounds like a replica of last season. No other club aspiring to be back at the top table would put up with his performances in the last 18 months. He’s diabolical.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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Wouldn't it be funny if both us and City got relegated together in the same season?
There is no progress with him. This is it.
We’re constantly being sold reasons why we Are still playing poorly and the results Are terrible
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“We need better defenders”
“We need a nr 6”
“we have a lot of injuries”
“We need ugarte”
Etc
Now we just need Bruno to come back to form..
Yeah, like we’re always just one tweek away from being a strong side
We will always chase this false hope one last fix with ten hag in charge
We’re constantly being sold reasons why we Are still playing poorly and the results Are terrible
.
“We need better defenders”
“We need a nr 6”
“we have a lot of injuries”
“We need ugarte”
Etc
Now we just need Bruno to come back to form..
Yeah, like we’re always just one tweek away from being a strong side
We will always chase this false hope one last fix with ten hag in charge
The 7-0. Worst day ever as a United fan.
There was never a 7-1. We did not even score.
What’s mad about that is it still looks awful and yet it’s one of the best case scenarios.
Another one that will start coming up soon is how he was right in not wanting Ugarte and how INEOS have let him down by bringing a player against his wishes. You just know 100% this will come.
The reaction to Palace game was hilarious. We drew against a team that has been struggling and is yet to win a game this season, a week after they nearly lost to Leicester (who scored 2 as opposed to 0) at home, and by just looking at people's reactions you'd have thought we just thumped Arsenal 3-0 at Emirates.
A fluke like that would be an existential threat to this club. Said manager would be allowed to relegate us down into the Championship - no questions asked.
My brain read the quote. I guess its a mental defence to not remember that result.
I think among people who are happy with him to stay there are only two groups remaining. People who have invested so much of their personal stock in him, on this forum and elsewhere, that they feel as if they are somehow obliged to stand by him (even if it appears to defy common sense), and the second group which are people who are hinging on that tiny little chance that he turns things around (how unlikely it may seem) and it will make them look like geniuses and proper top fans for standing by their manager in times of adversity (it's basically a 100/1 bet at this point, but one that would grant you ultimate bragging rights should things unravel the right way). Both these groups are never going to turn around and stop supporting him.
Everyone else seems to have already moved to 'Sack' part of the floor, even those who stood by him last year citing 'unprecedented historical injury crisis' as the only reason for our underperformance.
Everyone else seems to have already moved to 'Sack' part of the floor, even those who stood by him last year citing 'unprecedented historical injury crisis' as the only reason for our underperformance.
My favourite one is “at least we’re not conceding 25 shots per game this season.” In to his third season and having spent hundreds of millions of pounds and the best thing people can say as a measure of progress is that we’re no longer almost getting smashed every game.
I don’t see the ping in persisting with him for another game. He’s beyond useless and incapable of coaching a consistent winning team. He lacks class and is far too cautious for a team that wish to finish top 4.
I don’t see how Wilcos, Ashworth and Co are looking at this and see anything that looks acceptable.
I don’t see how Wilcos, Ashworth and Co are looking at this and see anything that looks acceptable.
This. The worst part though is that I think a new group is starting to grow. The group that just accept things and think "it is was it is".
We haven't been ruthless. Barring Moyes, who shouldn't have been hired in the first place, we have given managers far too much time and wasted the potential of the players we've had in the squad. We need to clear out managers much faster, you can't expect players to give up 3 years of their careers because you don't want to be perceived as a sacking club.
Not sure this years recruit can be attributed to him, but regardless he can't set up a team to score goals. And makes diabolical changes every week. I think we are wasting time with him.
Knee jerk? Seriously?
Knee jerk is getting excited because of three decent performances against Southampton (one of the worst teams in the league), Barnsley (a League One team) and Palace (who have started the season terribly). Those three games along with this match against Twente is almost certainly the easiest four game stretch we'll have all season, and we still managed to only win two of them. While there was some improvement there and I was curious whether it would continue, at the moment those three games were the exception so it's the exact opposite of being knee jerk to hold Ten Hag at fault when things go bad again.
Exactly
We created feck all yesterday
The biggest reason we need to get the next manager right next summer is because we have the chance to properly sort out our midfield.
Eriksen and Casemiro will almost certainly be gone next season. There’s an outside chance maybe Fernandes too if he continues to stink up the entire year.
Give the keys to someone who will prioritise some proper central midfielders.
Eriksen and Casemiro will almost certainly be gone next season. There’s an outside chance maybe Fernandes too if he continues to stink up the entire year.
Give the keys to someone who will prioritise some proper central midfielders.
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Agree, but Mainoo, Ugarte, Mount isn't an awful midfield.
Bruno will get ETH the sack and hopefully the new manager gets rid of him.
What’s mad about that is it still looks awful and yet it’s one of the best case scenarios.
The whole situation is just bleak.
Not to defend the result but losing at OT to them was much much worse. We’ve had some real lows these last few years.
How about 'on xG we should have drawn to Liverpool' and 'we almost drew at Brighton' trophies?
He's lost the dressing room hasn't he. Explains all our miserable second half performances of late and how the subs make things worse.
The 3-0 and 5-0 at OT, and 7-0 and 4-0 at Anfield were all basically equally bad in my view. The 3-0 this year could have easily been a 5-0 if they cared, and 5-0 could have been a 10-0 if they cared.
Sure, but nowadays I don't feel that surprised. The 7-0 was when I still had hopes. A couple of weeks ago we all already did know what was coming.
Yeah I completely agree with this. In the first half Rashford had their full back and being honest everyone else in their side on toast, they couldn't handle him. So what did we do? Sent everything down the middle, for Bruno to dangerously lose possession over and over again.
There was a point second half when Rashford was standing on the touchline watching us play the same (uncontested) triangle on the centre circle. After a full minute -I- was furious so god only knows what he was thinking. We seemed to ignore our wide players as much as possible and be allergic to getting it into the box. Fair enough if that's your orders but our players actually looked sharp last night, if they were instructed to play quicker and get to the byline more often to get it in there we could easily have smashed Twente, they didn't look comfortable at all.
My eyes bleeds and cries at the same time reading those results...
I don't think he's lost the dressing room at all. Second half performances are largely due to him being completely incapable of impacting the game in a positive way, all he can do is either sit idle or make changes that make us worse. In the meantime most other managers at this level are typically quite good at reading the game and reacting to what's going on the pitch, which is the reason why we pretty much always look worse as the game goes (was also the case last year where we conceded a massive number of late goals, which all his fans simply attributed to bad luck - it wasn't).
Last weekend, we were all over them in the first half, Glasner makes two HT subs, then makes further tweaks in the second half and they were actually the ones closer to winning it in the last 30. It happens virtually every game. Happened last night as well, come the end of the game it was Twente that looked closer to creating something (while still not really getting close to scoring).
It's like he's not watching the game or not paying attention.
In what sense was it meaningless. We’re already out of title race and way off the pace for top 4. So I think we’d be mad to not take winning the Europa league as a route to the Champions League seriously.
His in game management is comparable to Ole's at this point. Absolutely dogcrap.
Sure it must have been said multiple times - but only reason he is not being sacked is because he's the 5th-6th manager in the last decade. If this was 2 years ago, he would have been a gonner long time ago.
Sure it must have been said multiple times - but only reason he is not being sacked is because he's the 5th-6th manager in the last decade. If this was 2 years ago, he would have been a gonner long time ago.
I don't think so; the players are going by his instructions... which is the problem.
Second halves are worse than the first because the opposition manager takes stock and adapts, leaving our manager in the wilderness more often than not.
He rarely tweaks anything for the better or reacts well to the opposition switching things up. It's like he has a set script for the match, and that is problematic.
Edit: I see @Sarni has beat me to the punch.
Don't disagree with any of that. Unfortunately like Moyes and Ole, Ten Hag is showing all the symptoms of someone out of their depth. Neither LVG or Mourinho were similarly out of their depth. It just didn't work with them.
So it is critical that the next appointment has to be the right one. City, the Gooners and even Liverpool are away in the distance.
Who, I don't know. But he is out there somewhere.
Do I have confidence we will find him.... not at all sure.
"Meaningless game" apparently, I guess that was the attitude the players had and why we got the post match comments from Eriksen on the dressing room feeling that FC Twente "wanted it more".
Whilst the Europa League shouldn't be seen as a priority in comparison to the league. It is a competition along with the likes of the League Cup and FA Cup we have a chance of winning. It will take a miracle and multiple collapses for us to get anywhere near winning the league and you could argue top 4 all together.
No game should be considered "Meaningless" at ANY club.
Whilst the Europa League shouldn't be seen as a priority in comparison to the league. It is a competition along with the likes of the League Cup and FA Cup we have a chance of winning. It will take a miracle and multiple collapses for us to get anywhere near winning the league and you could argue top 4 all together.
No game should be considered "Meaningless" at ANY club.
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