I did not fundamentally change my statement. It‘s factually incorrect to state we conceded a big amount of goals, because we conceded less than our direct competitors.
I also called you out on purely negative posting, by which I stand as well.
I never said he said that, relax.You implied he said it was a catastrophic number of goals. He didn’t say that. Therefore implying that is dishonest.
The patterns of play are emerging! Love to see it.
Except we're not shit, we're a very expensively assembled side who should be achieving a top 4 finish most seasons with ease, and we absolutely should be dispatching teams like Barnsley. We have some very, very capable players, so when you put a team of this calibre out against a League One side you expect a hammering. I feel for any manager of a big club in this situation because anything less than a resounding win draws criticism, and that's the same all over the world, it isn't exclusive to Ten Hag and Manchester United.A big win against anyone right now is far from predictable as we're shit, to be blunt. You can say we should be beating these teams by a wide margin, which is correct, but the pathetic truth is we've not looked remotely capable of doing so for years. It's not predictable that we'd comfortably beat a league one team, which is terrible, but that's reality of where we are sadly.
Your posts don't come across as someone who was able to just switch off and enjoy a nice relaxing win in the league cup, maybe you did, but your tone suggests overwise.
I never said he said that, relax.
You sound so disappointedGreat win, incredibly predictable though. I have a feeling our next set of games will go exactly as we expect them too also. Not really much to say on tonight's game other than an emphatic win from a side that have a lot more firepower than the other.
?The patterns of play are emerging! Love to see it.
To be fair we’re trying a lot more cutbacks in the last few games than we did last season I think, that can’t be random or a coincidence. It might seem small, but it’s something.
Yeah, the part where I said "Great win" wreaks of disappointment...You sound so disappointed
You don't see patterns of play?
I think we've always had this type of passing game and showed glimpses of it in both seasons, the main difference is that it actually worked yesterday because Barnsley tried to go forward and left space behind. Another factor is that Amad is playing more this season and his style is a bit different. Palace away should be a reasonable test to see if this was a coincidence, they are usually well drilled but aren't as good as they were last season. And then two home games after that should see us picking up more confidence. We should have an decent run until December, then we'll see where we are really at.To be fair we’re trying a lot more cutbacks in the last few games than we did last season I think, that can’t be random or a coincidence. It might seem small, but it’s something.
You don't see patterns of play?
Reeks and yeah, the following sentences say a lot more than that one.Yeah, the part where I said "Great win" wreaks of disappointment...
Just read what you want to read I guess.
Whatever our style of play was last season was utter trash. We looked like we had either not been coached or been coached to play badly.People will see or not see what they want. Its pretty clear we have patterns of play and a style of play. We just haven't always done it to a good standard.
I'm pretty sure Palace would have done similar to a terrible Barnsley side. Saturday will be a marker of whether anything has really changed.
Not what I was referring too to be fair. What exactly do people have to complain about from last night?
So not a league 1 side at home who had just been beaten 3-0 by Stevenage?Is that so? They played a 12th place championship team and scrapped a 2-1 win.
Reeks and yeah, the following sentences say a lot more than that one.
Whatever our style of play was last season was utter trash. We looked like we had either not been coached or been coached to play badly.
The last two games have been a huge improvement though. It was very evident against Southampton. Hope it continues.
Says a lot more about your expectations if you didn't expect United, or any other PL club fielding a full strength team, to beat a bad Barnsley side.Reeks and yeah, the following sentences say a lot more than that one.
If we can start making other teams look like Barnsley, I wood genuinely look forward to this.Caftards will always complain. If ETH comes good it will be comedy gold for years quoting all the people demanding he be sacked.
When was the last time we scored 5 let alone 7, so don't think it was expected of us to beat any team 7-0. I expected us to win 2 or 3-1 so it was refreshing to see a good display.Says a lot more about your expectations if you didn't expect United, or any other PL club fielding a full strength team, to beat a bad Barnsley side.
It's such a pathetic argument to say to anyone that is bothered enough to waste their time posting on here is 'disappointed' (or similar) when we win.Yeah, the part where I said "Great win" wreaks of disappointment...
Just read what you want to read I guess.
Says a lot more about your expectations if you didn't expect United, or any other PL club fielding a full strength team, to beat a bad Barnsley side.
There's a long way to go but I feel like we're really not as bad as the drama queen 80% would have us believe. Yes Arsenal, Liverpool and CIty are in a different league but I don't think fourth is a mad ambition for the season.If we can start making other teams look like Barnsley, I wood genuinely look forward to this.
When was the last time we scored 5 let alone 7, so don't think it was expected of us to beat any team 7-0. I expected us to win 2 or 3-1 so it was refreshing to see a good display.
Who said anything about expecting us to win 7-0? I said I expected us to win by a margin, as in a scoreline like 3-0. We were clinical but Barnsley gave us time and space in their entire half. The result wasn't expected, but the beating a League One team convincingly isn't a surprise folks.I don't think I've ever expected us to beat a side 7-0.
I fully expected us to beat Southampton and Barnsley, but not by an aggregate score of 10-0.
Who said anything about expecting us to win 7-0? I said I expected us to win by a margin, as in a scoreline like 3-0. We were clinical but Barnsley gave us time and space in their entire half. The result wasn't expected, but the beating a League One team convincingly isn't a surprise folks.
I expected us to win but based on the last 18 months, we pretty much never do total domination and we’ve played some abysmal teams in that time. So no, nothing about yesterday was predictable. Loved it.Says a lot more about your expectations if you didn't expect United, or any other PL club fielding a full strength team, to beat a bad Barnsley side.
No I did notYou described a 7-0 win as "incredibly predictable".
Take a day off.
No I did not
Great win, incredibly predictable though.
So playing our reserve GK, 3rd and 4th choice CBs, a kid at LB who as far as I know has never played there before, a new player making his debut as a starter is a full strength team these days?Says a lot more about your expectations if you didn't expect United, or any other PL club fielding a full strength team, to beat a bad Barnsley side.
So playing our reserve GK, 3rd and 4th choice CBs, a kid at LB who as far as I know has never played there before, a new player making his debut as a starter is a full strength team these days?
Yes, the "win" - was - "predictable". I'm not sure why that statement is blowing your mind. Find the quote where I said "winning 7-0" was a predictable result and I hated it.Err...
Except we're not shit, we're a very expensively assembled side who should be achieving a top 4 finish most seasons with ease, and we absolutely should be dispatching teams like Barnsley. We have some very, very capable players, so when you put a team of this calibre out against a League One side you expect a hammering. I feel for any manager of a big club in this situation because anything less than a resounding win draws criticism, and that's the same all over the world, it isn't exclusive to Ten Hag and Manchester United.
We have though, the reason Ten Hag is still here is because we occasionally look like we have our shit together, but as I said, it's predictably against teams that are way off our level. As soon as we come up against a team that is organised and knows how to play against us we look all at sea.
I enjoyed the game last night, I enjoyed it as much as anyone could watching your team score 7 pretty routine goals against a League One side who couldn't get close to our players in the final 3rd, it could have been 10 or more. But lets face it, it's job done stuff, not lap of honour for a famous win stuff, so if it seems like I'm disappointed, I'm not, it's just tick the box and move on to the next game. It's not even a Ten Hag thing, we beat Southampton under Ole 9-0. We enjoyed it, we expected a win, we moved on right away, same for this game.
If we manage to batter Palace this weekend I'll be pleasantly surprised, because this is the type of game we usually struggle in. There's no suggestion we've turned a corner yet so I can't relax going into games because our performances are predictable based on who the opposition are. So until that changes, it feels very much like business as usual for United and Ten Hag.
No you're right, I'm not sure how a combined defence worth £135m could possible have held their own against the mighty BarnsleySo playing our reserve GK, 3rd and 4th choice CBs, a kid at LB who as far as I know has never played there before, a new player making his debut as a starter is a full strength team these days?
Except I did none of thisHe just wants to be miserable about Manchester United until Ten Hag is sacked.
By no stretch of the imagination is Bayindir in goal, a centre-back pairing of Maguire and Evans, Collyer at left-back, a midfield containing Casemiro and Eriksen, and an attack starting with Antony on the right and Rashford as the centre-forward our "full-strength" team.
He's also outright denying that he called a 7-0 win "incredibly predictable", even though it's right there for everyone to see.
All you can do is call it out when you see it, I'm awaiting a response from another poster about Zirkzee, apparently he passes the but doesn't run forward afterwardsHe just wants to be miserable about Manchester United until Ten Hag is sacked.
By no stretch of the imagination is Bayindir in goal, a centre-back pairing of Maguire and Evans, Collyer at left-back, a midfield containing Casemiro and Eriksen, and an attack starting with Antony on the right and Rashford as the centre-forward our "full-strength" team.
He's also outright denying that he called a 7-0 win "incredibly predictable", even though it's right there for everyone to see.