We win comfortably away from home 3-0 and you're unhappy, I think you need to find another sport to follow because you are not going to be happy following any football team
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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Can’t press with Eriksen and Mainoo, on top of that ETH can’t coach
I haven't read the post but Il guess you complained about him anyway, even in the context of today's game?
We are going nowhere under ETH after spending 600 millions.
If you are Ok with losing 3-0 at home against Pool, we agree to disagree.
We are boring as feck to watch also. We finished 8th last year and it’s the same old sh*t. We are just wasting time.
It’s not about being ‘ok’ with losing, it’s that you seem so unhappy we’ve won. Any 0-3 win away from home is not ‘standards dropping’, think what you want of ETH but they came out guns blazing, as is usually the case away from home, and then we got a hold of the game and got a good win and performance from the team.
ETH needs to solve 2 basic things to have a future here.
1. Improve our chance creation by 30-40%
2. Stop our players from making stupid mistakes(Case against pool as a reference point)
Just by doing these 2 things, we are basically guranteed top4. If he fails to address these 2 things, he will not survive this season.
1. Improve our chance creation by 30-40%
2. Stop our players from making stupid mistakes(Case against pool as a reference point)
Just by doing these 2 things, we are basically guranteed top4. If he fails to address these 2 things, he will not survive this season.
It's definitely a personnel issue. The idea pressing player is young, fast, fit, willing, technically good and injury resistant. How many of our players are all six?
Well, Dalot had a bad first half. Rashford did score though, so maybe you overreact a bit?
How many of our players meet half that criteria never mind all of them!
It wasn't just that though I feel. Our attack was so ineffectual that when we committed lots of players forward against Liverpool we did very little with it. This high risk-high reward football he wants is really high risk and with no reward. Given our situation I really don't mind us being a little bit more conservative for a while, just to get some results and the confidence flowing.
Not even the first, this season were only behind Pool and City for xG. Creation isn’t an issue, finishing has been awful.
The latter part of the first half, Southampton wasn‘t pressed in any sort of coordinated way and totally played around and through us. What the feck were we doing?
We pressed high the rest of the game and controlled them.
It was ineffective but that's not why we lost that game
Funny because we were most vulnerable when we did not press high. You either commit to the press or sit off in a compact shape. For 30 minutes, we did neither.
We were busy scoring 2 goals in the latter part of the first half!
Plenty of shots on target today. We did make a big mistake: the Dalot tackle.
After we got overrun. The saved penalty got us back on track.
It was very concerning: against a good team you concede 1-3 goals in that period. Game over.
I will yeah.
Yeah let's also ignore zirkzee failed to put away a tap in before too
On the field today... Mainoo Dalot De Ligt Martinez Zirkzee Ugarte (hopefully) Garnacho
So seven out of ten outfield. Not terrible but not great.
One big improvement from last season has been the shots faced…Coaches are doing something right, long may it continue.
Ugarte should help that statistic as well.
Ugarte should help that statistic as well.
I don’t know mate. I don’t have any coaching badges, don’t like to pretend I do, and didn’t listen to the team talk. I just enjoy watching, for better or worse.
Is it possible we just took a while to get going, have low confidence / nerves / were outplayed for 20 minutes?
Still chuckling at the “end of days” proclamations in the pre-match thread if I’m honest!
Really good win and performance that. Buzzing after today.
Fitness levels.
Why are our players never fully match fit at the start of each of ETH seasons?
Why isn't he getting them match fit during the summer. They are only now starting to look match fit in my opinion.
Why are our players never fully match fit at the start of each of ETH seasons?
Why isn't he getting them match fit during the summer. They are only now starting to look match fit in my opinion.
Did you think to look at our preseason squad before committing this to the internet?
Yeah I'm aware they all came back at various different times. Maybe we should have been using the lads who'd had more action during the summer then instead of throwing the likes of Martinez and Bruno into action without enough game time.
Like who?
Yeah come on, it's only like his third season guys.
I'm asking about this season
Ah, new season new excuses.
Ok you answer then. Who from the preseason squad should be playing ahead of the players who came back late?
Miss me with that shit, as a club we are paying our manager and trainers big money. They have a squad and an expensive one at that.
Ok no logic and reason, just whining like a little baby
Don't know why people are complaining about the pressing, you have to alter your approach to the game as it changes.
It was clear as day to drop off, stay compact and not chase them with Eriksen and Mainoo midfield was the better option. Once that was sorted out Southampton couldn't do a thing, their best chances came when Utd got stretched and they isolated Dalot at left back. Onana's save, the de Ligt clearance and Dalot giving away a penalty.
They never got a sniff after that.
Second half was a professional performance, just controlling the game and seein it out, while still creating 2 or 3 more scoring opportunities.
It was clear as day to drop off, stay compact and not chase them with Eriksen and Mainoo midfield was the better option. Once that was sorted out Southampton couldn't do a thing, their best chances came when Utd got stretched and they isolated Dalot at left back. Onana's save, the de Ligt clearance and Dalot giving away a penalty.
They never got a sniff after that.
Second half was a professional performance, just controlling the game and seein it out, while still creating 2 or 3 more scoring opportunities.
Think you're confusing fitness with confidence levels. Every team including the mighty city have started the season with players at various levels of fitness. This isn't something new.
Sure big man, enjoy mediocrity because I dont.
Eriksen was back earlier than others for one.
I get what you are saying, feels a bit like you're on my case but I suppose you are right. Still think our fitness levels arent good enough at the start of each season.
Well obviously Maguire and Evans should be starting, Collyer with Casemiro in midfield and Wheatly up front, first sub on is Antony unless he starts as a 10
Well yes but last season we pressed regardless of that. ETH has picked up some Wembley pragmatism it seems. We were told that the price of backsliding would be that we would never get where we are going. That's the concern. I'm not ETH in because he wins games. He doesn't. I support him because he's building towards a better style of play.
Enjoy not using your brain
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