Perhaps should have played the team differently... but still, when enough players stop playing or have an off day and the other team is scoring almost every time they take a shot on target, this is the result you get.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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i loved and stuck up for ole more than most maybe, but ten Haag is a different level and what he’s done so far is superb. It does make me sick that he oversaw our biggest ever hiding, both for myself and him but hopefully that’ll just be a footnote in a long successful time here
I went back to the 5 nil thread, and let's just say that certain posters that popped up in here giving ETH shit, were far more sympathetic to Ole. Even though we were in a far worse place back then.
The 7-0 was so obviously a result of mental fragility inflicted long term since SAF left. It's going to take him time to get that out of the team. Some players might be able to adapt, some will have to go.
We've been thrashed too often for it to be just chance.
We've been thrashed too often for it to be just chance.
I like it. Call it as it is and move on
Well done Ten Hag taking the blame with the players and protecting Fernandes as his captain.
I have zero doubt that's a rival fan.
Cant tell the difference nowadays on here
Cant tell the difference nowadays on here
Yeah but the way he was excusing Ole and tearing into ETH, clear he is a hater and is worried abt us under ETH. Why he would post that nonsense is beyond me.
We also got some good results during Ole's tenure, it doesn't change the fact of the matter. Casemiro and Varane were awful, true, but they have a proven track record and one match doesn't change that. The problem with the players I previously managed is that it is an occurring thing with them, not an one off that you can just write off and I fear that with the majority of them its far too late for Ten Hag to instill a winning mentality in them. Even in the last years of Sir Alex tenure, when we had absolute dross of players, they were still going to give it their all because nothing short of a win was acceptable to them. You'll never see a team or even individual players under Sir Alex just give up in the middle of a match.
Glad ETH and Rashford are supporting Bruno in the press conference. Shouldn't have needed to be said but for Nevilles bad mouthing and lies. Hope next time ETH does one of those pitch side interviews and Nevilles there he gives him the cold shoulder or even better calls him out to his face.
Love how classy ETH is. Doesn’t blame the players. He says we’re all in it together. Win and lose together. That’s a proper spirit.
But at the same time, people nowadays are so weird in defending their convictions. There are definitely people who loved Ole that want Ten Hag to fail so as to vindicate their opinion that Ole was helpless and could have won us trophies but for xyz (non-Ole related) reason holding us back.
Boggles the mind.
Best thing we can do is stick together, make result look like a blip or anomaly and carry on what we were doing and improve our away performance and tactics.
There was only one player starting on Sunday I would have changed if in ETH shoes, WB rather than DD, as we know Anfield is a place you have to defend well. Probably the first goal not scored with WB at RB covering his CH. That would have set up 2nd half differently and who knows..
But talking about defending, Shaw faced with excellent wingers such as Saka and Salah goes missing. He was fortunate not to be up against Raphina at Barca.
Strange set up with Bruno etc , didn't help the team on the break. And the substitutions made matters worse.
I have remarked before that many of the players before ETH time have consistently shown brittle mentality. He is not a miracle worker, he is a very competent manager/coach but several players still need changing before there is a consistently mentally strong team. And at this level most of the difference is between the ears.
But talking about defending, Shaw faced with excellent wingers such as Saka and Salah goes missing. He was fortunate not to be up against Raphina at Barca.
Strange set up with Bruno etc , didn't help the team on the break. And the substitutions made matters worse.
I have remarked before that many of the players before ETH time have consistently shown brittle mentality. He is not a miracle worker, he is a very competent manager/coach but several players still need changing before there is a consistently mentally strong team. And at this level most of the difference is between the ears.
Neville's behaviour around our players some times during live games is a disgrace.
I love Neville, but he's beyond shite when we play, always talking penalties, and red cards for stuff that not even close, or he has even seen properly, it's truly bizarre at times. The constant banging into Bruno every game is getting stupid too.
Always passing anything he does as a dive, then the replay would show it wasn't what he claimed, he doesn't even correct the original remark he made.
Would pass of Bruno getting fouled for a penalty as nothing, while when it's the other way against us would claim it's a penalty. It's so strange and hard to deny it.
Even the Shaw tackle that last game, you have thought Shaw kicked him, then replay wasn't even anything in it at all, prob more Nunez lashing out, but Neville was foaming big time.
Has happened so many times as well over the last year or so. I know he's a a huge fan and loves the club, but he's so bad when commentating on us. You just have to listen to carragher, wouldn't mind him being biased like that to be honest.
We can talk about individuals all day, even with DD we could have defended the 1st goal alot better, Fred gets caught in no mans land, loses his marker, then Varane sells himself knowing Gapko is right footed giving him the easiest of tasks.
I just think that game mentally, the team switched off and were not there, it can happen with the number of games we have had.
This team has always struggled mentally coping with hype, after the run, league cup, FA cup last min winner, they thought they are untouchable and we have seen it in the recent years.
Ten Hag needs to change this and make sure the team is switched on at all times.
We're missing a proper striker up front who guarantees goals. Maybe we should look into re-signing Lukaku. Yes, if ETH doesn't see the merit of signing Lukaku then I think we're in trouble.
This post has made my head hurt the most today, well done. I’m assuming it’s a parody, but there’s so many genuinely scary opinions on here after Sunday. Lukaku
Good solid quotes. No throwing anyone under the bus or pointing fingers. Accepting that everyone involved was at fault and that we have to bounce back. That's what you want to hear from your manager.
His post is ridiculous, but people are allowed to have different opinions than you. Do you need a safe space to protect you from his post?
How are these posts allowed
There’s different opinions and then there’s ranting days after the event like an actual child.
Lovely investigation skills
So you took all this from me laughing at how ridiculous that post was, you seem to be taking it as a serious post and he not trolling
Why would he need to be protected from a post he finds funny?
You are the Ben Shapiro of this forum.
You asked how his post was even allowed on the board, ie, it should be removed.So you took all this from me laughing at how ridiculous that post was, you seem to be taking it as a serious post and he not trolling
Thank you.
Do you think ETH shows the players footage of fans reactions to us getting absolutely battered as a way to say, hey, if you're not going to do it for yourself, at least do it for them? Or something along the lines of that...?
I strongly disagree that Sancho is worse technically than Antony. Sancho has elite touch, close control, and vision/passing ability in the final third. He's not explosive/direct enough often times, but there's a reason he put up some of the best production in Europe as a teenager especially from a creative standpoint. I think he needs to be more lethal with his ball striking when presented chances to really go from a luxury player with nice feet to one that can be counted on for consistent production.
Antony lacks the explosive pace of Robben and is also a worse carrier with the ball. He's got nice feet in tight spaces and his generally relentless in his defensive work which helps our shape in and out of possession, but he's essentially a 0 creatively both in passing/crossing ability and just general inventiveness. So you're left with a one footed Right Winger with a nice cut in shot but neither the direct take on ability of Robben nor the creativity of Di Maria with the same one footed profile. His tenacity and defensive work means at his worse he can still be "useful", but it's the profile of a 35m player you'd buy off of Wolves or someone, not an 80m one.
He should show them the Caf, and make them all read their player performance threads. That'll whip them into shape.
Depends how much some of them care. I think the new lads genuinely care about this club and they just had a bit of a wobble.
I just hope that he will get a top striker this summer. Which will end playing Rashford and Bruno out of position.
After 3 days am still fuming at that decision to give Trent an easy ride.
After 3 days am still fuming at that decision to give Trent an easy ride.
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