Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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What the feck is Gary Neville talking about Ten Hag turning the team from 'whiners into winners'
 
What the feck is Gary Neville talking about Ten Hag turning the team from 'whiners into winners'
Neville often doesn't know what he talks about. His punditry is awful. Carragher is miles better and I do not say that lightly.
 
What the feck is Gary Neville talking about Ten Hag turning the team from 'whiners into winners'
Seems fairly self explanatory. All they did last season was complain and leak stuff to the press. Some of them anyway.
 
I don't think he's a genius.
Just highly competent, intelligent, motivated, experienced, disciplined, hard working etc.

He's been coaching and managing for 20 years and has arrived here at the perfect time for him and us.

Ajax are a selling club unfortunately so it's hard to build a team but here ha can keep players and sign the likes of Varane and Casemiro

Think your maths is a little off.
 
Tonight is a happy night and I don’t want to reopen old arguments but I hope the last 6 months shows that, with some financial backing, a top level manager does not need years to effect concrete improvements. Erik is admittedly ahead of the schedule most of us envisaged but can we put to bed the myth of the multi-year rebuild which precludes any judgement of progress before some indeterminate time in the future?
 
Tonight is a happy night and I don’t want to reopen old arguments but I hope the last 6 months shows that, with some financial backing, a top level manager does not need years to effect concrete improvements. Erik is admittedly ahead of the schedule most of us envisaged but can we put to bed the myth of the multi-year rebuild which precludes any judgement of progress before some indeterminate time in the future?

Thankfully those mythical 3 year rebuild schedules only exist for ex players and we'll never have another one of those as manager.
 
Tonight is a happy night and I don’t want to reopen old arguments but I hope the last 6 months shows that, with some financial backing, a top level manager does not need years to effect concrete improvements. Erik is admittedly ahead of the schedule most of us envisaged but can we put to bed the myth of the multi-year rebuild which precludes any judgement of progress before some indeterminate time in the future?
There is this thing called 80-20 rule. So with 20% of the effort you get 80% of the results. I think that's were we are now. The next 20% might takes another 80% effort. You still need a good run and some luck (e g. vital players not getting injured) to actually win the title let alone the Champions League.
Let's just enjoy the ride though!
 
Tonight is a happy night and I don’t want to reopen old arguments but I hope the last 6 months shows that, with some financial backing, a top level manager does not need years to effect concrete improvements. Erik is admittedly ahead of the schedule most of us envisaged but can we put to bed the myth of the multi-year rebuild which precludes any judgement of progress before some indeterminate time in the future?
The team he inherited was the result of those rebuilds. I'd say he's continuing that and got very lucky when the Casemiro situation. Any of our post SAF managers would've killed for someone like him.
 
I love the man. What he's done in 6 months is actually incredible. We were all levels of atrocious last season and it was such a MASSIVE job that I didn't expect such progress so soon. He's not put a foot wrong and it is insane.
 
You know you’re doing well if you can make Roy Keane somewhat jovial.

Second half was world class in-game management and perfect use of subs. The game management was akin to a team that does quite well in the Champions League on a regular basis, which bodes well for the future.

And this all after a gruelling game with Barcelona in midweek too.
 
The team he inherited was the result of those rebuilds. I'd say he's continuing that and got very lucky when the Casemiro situation. Any of our post SAF managers would've killed for someone like him.

He got lucky….You are Norwegian I’m guessing….
 
feels like fuking forever since Fergie was the gaffer and you had a manager who you knew woudl drive the team to success just by his sheer desire to be a serial winner

EtH gives you those same vibes....he will make you win becuase he doesn't accept losing. Best winners are the worst losers.
 
Anyone else saw him speaking with southgate in length after collecting the medal, hope he has asked that stupid feck to not call Rashford for meaningless friendlies. A proper 2 week rest would be great for him.
 
The team he inherited was the result of those rebuilds. I'd say he's continuing that and got very lucky when the Casemiro situation. Any of our post SAF managers would've killed for someone like him.
Ridiculous. We looked absolutely shattered at the end of last season.
 
What the feck is Gary Neville talking about Ten Hag turning the team from 'whiners into winners'
I don't disagree with this from Neville, last season you had Ronaldo throwing tantrums, Rashford sulking, Bruno screaming and arguing with our own players. These were all common images under Ole and Ralf. I think people have forgotten just how awful it was.

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The team he inherited was the result of those rebuilds. I'd say he's continuing that and got very lucky when the Casemiro situation. Any of our post SAF managers would've killed for someone like him.
You should probably go back end of last season and read through some post match comments. Also managers post SAF didnt have budget to spend? Or maybe ETH google searches worked better when he typed in 'top midfielders in the world'
 
His in-game management is great, I was a bit worried when he put Mctominay and Sabitzer on but it worked perfectly completely stopped the pressure they were putting us under
 
His in-game management is great, I was a bit worried when he put Mctominay and Sabitzer on but it worked perfectly completely stopped the pressure they were putting us under

Their height also protected us against the long ball/ defending set pieces, which was essentially the only way they were going to score.
 
Seems fairly self explanatory. All they did last season was complain and leak stuff to the press. Some of them anyway.
Yeah but its not this lot of players.

I thought the leaking came from Pogba, Ronaldo and Lingards camp?
 
Hope he’s had some down time tonight to indulge if he is so inclined & truly savor what he has done.
 
The team he inherited was the result of those rebuilds. I'd say he's continuing that and got very lucky when the Casemiro situation. Any of our post SAF managers would've killed for someone like him.
This post basically disqualifies you from commenting on our first and only world class manager, embarrassing.
 
Isn't it 10 years? And only five of them were at the top level. Klopp was way more experienced when he came to Liverpool for example, despite being around the same age.

He had 10 years in coaching and assistants roles. He was Steve McLarens assistant for example.
Then 10 years as a manager.
So he's actually very experienced
 
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