Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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Love listening to his interviews. He speaks so well and he knows exactly what’s needed and what he’s talking about. I like how he keeps saying he wants more goals. 3-0 is good but it should have been 4/5 or 6 and he said that’s the next step. To score more goals. What an attacking manager! Can you imagine mourinho saying I want us to score more goals :lol: He’s happy with 1-0s. Goal difference plays a massive part in final standings so that needs to improve.
 
Another good game where we controlled the game and played really nice football. Our patterns of play are really coming along.
 
One noticeable change in our game is the significant amount of dummies by our players. Looks like well rehearsed.
 
It's taken time and lots of money but I'm convinced he's the man to take us back to the top.

He's ticked all the boxes for me so far, he's not allowed himself to be bullied by a superstar and he's not been frightened to drop players if needed.

I just hope he gets us a trophy, I'd love the Europa league myself. Whatever people think of it the trophy still adds to our European silverware and its direct access to pot 1 of the Champions league.
 
I knew it. F... Google lying like that. Anyway Shaw is quality (thanks LVG) and I really hope he is our starting LB for years to come. In all honesty the guy survived a potentially career ending injury that looked even worse than the 08 Eduardo one. Dudu was never the same player after that but Shaw recovered just fine. I guess it helps being a bit bulky sometimes. But this is a ETH thread and to top it off this is clearly the second time he is experimenting. I said he kind of has "shades" of LVG and was pretty much attacked around here (when he played both Shaw and Malacia who are both left footed and natural LBs on two back positions). Now he has put Shaw in a position where he has to play against players like Heskey. ETH obviously doesnt think height is a thing in this league but it is and sooner or later its gonna bite us in the ass.

Before I get crucified around here I do know its his first season and he is working with players he doesnt want or rate so this season I am giving the benefit of the doubt.
He's doing a perfectly good job and you're telling us that you're giving him the benefit of the doubt. How kind.
 
Yeah it says 1,85 m which is ok I guess (he is not short but not imposing either). It just rubs me the wrong way when the manager plays someone out of position rather than playing one of two actual CBs at his disposal.

Maguire and Lindelof were suffering from illness. That being said, Shaw seems a more natural Martinez replacement at LCB with his ability on the ball.
 
You're the one bigging up Fletcher in this technical role so surely you must know what his tasks are?

You have the following as sporting directors:
Michael Edwards
Michael Zorc
Txiki Begiristain
Giuseppe Marotta

Who are vastly more experienced in their roles and you're telling me a club like United won't look for this wealth of experience in such an important role? Hence the question by many, what is Darren Fletcher's credentials in such a position at any elite club and how has he landed in such an important role at the club? What experience does he have?
They aren’t doing the same job. This conversation is literally revisited every 6 months
 
After 10 years, finally we have a "team". We also have a modern attacking football style of play. We now have a system where any player can come in and the style of play will not be affected too much. Like Klopp and Pep where the system is very established.

Gone were the days we always play boring football waiting for a moment of individual brilliance to win a match.
 
It’s time to string a series of wins, in order to show we make the real progress! Let’s say a ten-win stride in the league.
 
This man is no less than a bloody genius



Results aside, looking back to how disjointed we looked last season and the fact that he has only been here for 7 months and had to deal with our top scorer from last year being simultaneously terrible and unprofessional yet has still made us look something like a cohesive, modern football team who can compete with the best is actually world class coaching and management.
 
Maybe, 10 games in a row in the Premier League is a lot (our most ever is 12).

Let's hope so.
That’s the only way to show we can challenge the league title next season. This season by now, the longest win stride is four wins. The loss to Aston Villa disrupted our winning run, a setback. Now, after two wins, need to give it a serious try. It’s time to show the belief, spirit and togetherness of the team.
 
All things considered, he’s been very impressive.
From a disastrous start, to reigniting players who most considered not worthy of the shirt, we are seeing something that we all hadn’t seen for quite a few seasons.
Players playing with heart, desire and passion.
It seems we’re finally gelling into a functional unit and with a
 
Who could realistically come in next month in order to make it deadly
Good question remaining from at least summer 2022. The difference is we don't earn club's big money to do our job scouting, negotiating and making right decisions for everyone inside the team.

Seems like we're more invested in this than procrastinators, running the show. Two windows of not much happening on this front is not normal. The more I think of this, it seems the club's plan was to throw every scoring responsibility on Ronaldo and hope he'll play till his 40s.

I still refuse to believe there's no smart deals left in this window, which didn't even started. If we could let Gakpo go to Pool, the only positive conclusion is that we have someone other in mind. This week looks all about speculations, but when actual window starts something has to happen.

Think this is exactly why many wanted Rangnick to give his transfer ideas to ETH directly along with rest of assessments about United players. Perhaps it would save time to identify which striker fits to United and isn't on steep decline. Still won't be surprised if we'll go the old route and try Benzema who's contract slowly expiring. Asensio or Depay as alternatives. Moukoko could be right for Amad like project - good addition and something different in approach.

Felix so far is a muppet king territory, think won't happen, just like Frenkie. At least yet. :lol:
 
Before I get crucified around here I do know its his first season and he is working with players he doesnt want or rate so this season I am giving the benefit of the doubt.
Very kind of you.

How many clean sheets was it again this season so far?
 
Why do you keep pushing this nonsense self created narrative that the first act of the owners will be to bin off the manager who is (hopefully) the best we've had since Fergie?

Because they often like their own guy
 
Thats the impressive thing for me. We suddenly look like a team that can defend again and it's happened really pretty fast too.
Yeah exactly, and that what weirds me out about that other posters comment. It basically suggests Ten Hag is being naive in his approach to his defensive setup by underestimating the importance of player height, but you'd expect that nativity to play out now more than anything. Things obviously went wrong right at the start of the season but that wasn't because of player height, and since then, it's been mostly quite good.
 
Frankly CL qualification would be a wonderful achievement given I thought there was a betting chance of us being relegated this season, especially at the start.

Well I didn't. I expect utd (after spending tons each year) to at least have a fighting chance for silverware. The transition argument gets used a lot. Teams like Real or Barca or Bayern never are in transition. They always compete and that is a fact.
 
Well I didn't. I expect utd (after spending tons each year) to at least have a fighting chance for silverware. The transition argument gets used a lot. Teams like Real or Barca or Bayern never are in transition. They always compete and that is a fact.
Some sort of cup perhaps, but not the league. That takes time.
 
Can tell he’s a top coach. He’s improved players and put a style of play in place. Wonder how poch would of got on if some fans had there way…
 
I still refuse to believe there's no smart deals left in this window, which didn't even started. If we could let Gakpo go to Pool, the only positive conclusion is that we have someone other in mind. This week looks all about speculations, but when actual window starts something has to happen.
This window started the moment the summer window closed. Every club with a semblance of a proper structure in place has been planning for months.
 
Some sort of cup perhaps, but not the league. That takes time.
Maybe, there are exceptions imo (Leicester, Montpellier, Lille, Monaco, Ipswich Town 1962, Nottingham Forest 1978, Kaiserslautern 1998, Wolfsburg 2009, Stuttgart 2005) I'm sure there are a lot more examples of teams that were never expected to win the championship that won it.

Utd fans need to get rid of that small time mentality. When hundreds of millions are spend, you need to perform.
 
Can tell he’s a top coach. He’s improved players and put a style of play in place. Wonder how poch would of got on if some fans had there way…
I honestly don’t think he’d be half as good. He would divide opinion, whereas ETH seems to lead and bring together
 
Didnt watch the game yesterday but I was taken aback when I saw the defence line up. We literally had one CB and three backs. I know he doesnt rate Maguire (despite obviously playing better for England than us but so does Shaw) but he also has Lindelof (who didnt play the WC and is a CB despite my low opinion about him). Having three short men at the back doesnt seem like a good idea but we were playing Forest so how did we look? Forest had a goal ruled off so we obviously were not bullet proof

I mean, this is a both true and redundant statement. This is the Premier League, the other team is going to have a couple of chances in practically any game.
 
Maybe, there are exceptions imo (Leicester, Montpellier, Lille, Monaco, Ipswich Town 1962, Nottingham Forest 1978, Kaiserslautern 1998, Wolfsburg 2009, Stuttgart 2005) I'm sure there are a lot more examples of teams that were never expected to win the championship that won it.

Utd fans need to get rid of that small time mentality. When hundreds of millions are spend, you need to perform.
Exceptions are quite different from expecting. To expect us to compete for the title this season is delusion.
 
This window started the moment the summer window closed. Every club with a semblance of a proper structure in place has been planning for months.
Spot on. This is why Pool getting interesting players in winter period despite lesser budget, even though signing Darwin should heavily tax them, they still looking for good occasions everytime.

Soon Chelsea definitely will start resupplying their squad. Arsenal's jump could be temporary, but their supporters already pushing their club to spend to boost their title race.

At this point nobody's forcing United to spend heavily, just thoughtfully.
 
Can tell he’s a top coach. He’s improved players and put a style of play in place. Wonder how poch would of got on if some fans had there way…
We'd have been well away from the top 4 race. We've had the rub of the green with cup draws so I feel we'd be in the same position regarding the cups.

We'd have likely ended up with different players transfer wise.
 
I read this quote on a Dutch football site, so I assume this is what he said recently.
Is it a realistic target? Sure but it comes across to me as if we should celebrate that. I remember when everybody laughed at Arsenal fans for being happy with the "4th place trophy". It seems we caught up now.

When Leicester is able to become champions and Newcastle is able to make huge progress without significant signings and Arsenal is able to go from 5th to being leader over the course of a couple of months then a utd manager shouldn't be happy with just 4th place.

What nonsense. First of all, Ten Hag made it clear that nothing short of winning everything is good enough and has begun to instill a culture of winning at MU. That was gone for the last 9 seasons.

Second, Arsenal are in their 3rd or 4th year with Arteta. We are in our 4th Month with Ten Hag.

Is 4th place good enough this year? I sure think so. Our squad is not balanced and we have a new manager.

Look at where Chelsea and Liverpool are in the table. They have won a few things recently haven’t they? We are above them.

To summarize: don’t be a whino.
 
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