Maguire is shit though and not deserving of the honour and privilege of being Man United captain.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Excellent. Also - 13 km is hardly a marathon for these athletes. Even with the heat I doubt they were in ruins.
I truly hope they suffered. That's where I am now.
Should have asked them to walk on burning charcoals. Trial by fire.
Oh good the players are already running their mouth to the media. Start swinging the axe Erik. Will this be his Moyes chips moment.
There's actually nothing about reactions from experts in the article. It's just in Crafton's tweet.
Ten Hag basically selected that FM option of " We are all going to train tomorrow. You don't deserve a rest after that performance". Hope he also threw a water bottle at them for good measure. 
Lazy fecking players. Absolutely hate them. The Brentford players did that during the match, so feck these lot.
these are professional players, they should be able to run 13km easily. I'm 50 and went running last night for 9km, it was hot but I wasn't in ruins.
Feck sport scientists. Football is more of a mental game than anything. The proof is in the pudding. Our players just don't have the mentality even though they play against players worse than them. Speaking of which where is our data scientist guy? any improvements he's made since joining?
13km isn't that far for these guys. They won't have been sprinting it either. As has been said, this is a punishment, not a masterclass in recovery or fitness acquisition.
Exactly it's not exactly high intensity.
Worrying signs tbh. We needed a big clearout this summer to reset the dressing room. That hasn't happened, and here we are. All the shite from last season still present. It doesn't seem like Ten Hag has managed to change the culture and mentality of the squad (which, tbf, is extremely difficult to do, which is why we needed a reset).
I fear our season could derail completely in the coming weeks.
I fear our season could derail completely in the coming weeks.
They should have run it on Saturday afternoon then the thick twats.
I'm telling you, Erik is far better off dropping the players complaining and using the few first teamers who are professional and at least want to try, plus some of the fringe/youth players. Honestly, this is the better option because those feckers are living in a fantasy world where you get paid loads to do feck all work!
It's good that Ten Hag has some balls. It's better than ETH telling them "it's okay, boo hoo, it's okay, you are good players dont worry about the shit results. Take some rest, human needs rest and water. Drink a lot of water".
FFS, couldn't care less about the leaks of what the players want, just get rid of them. I'm so sick of it. It just feels like literally nothing has changed since last year
Tbf we only lost the first 3 games which were all played in August. Won the next 3, which is a very quick turnaround. If you lose too many points in those 12 games stretch mentioned then it will be extremely difficult to have any kind of a good season. So basically if after the Liverpool game you don't start to pick up decent points then I would probably write off this season.
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The punishment for being destroyed and humiliated by Brentford was too punishing for 2022 footballers.All need to grow a fecking spine.
They should do 26 km every day
Selling Garner his first big mistake
Where is Richard Arnold's email address?
We might need to start flooding him with emails and tell the bastard to pull his finger out an help the manager here. Those players are out of order. Really hate them, and it takes a lot for me to hate.
They are going to bring us down to the championship and have no regrets about it. Need the directors to lay down the law. Fecking horrible.
We might need to start flooding him with emails and tell the bastard to pull his finger out an help the manager here. Those players are out of order. Really hate them, and it takes a lot for me to hate.
They are going to bring us down to the championship and have no regrets about it. Need the directors to lay down the law. Fecking horrible.
13km isn’t that much, and I doubt they were doing it at anything resembling a sprint.
I did 10km yesterday, just to get out of the house, and I’m an unfit mess. These lads will have handled the fitness aspect of it just fine. It’s about a symbolic punishment that reinforces a sense of culpability for their performance in their place of work, which was extremely below par.
Well the entire fan base is actually stunned that nobody thought of this idea sooner.
Is the punishment worth it if it negatively effects performance V Liverpool?
How so? I'm sure he'd prefer to sell Mctominay but who is going to buy him? He will get a decent fee for Garner and sign someone that is already better than both those players. As long as they include a buy back, then selling him makes the most sense at this time unfortunately.
Getting this lot to play as a team is ten Hag's biggest challenge.
13K is really nothing. It's just over 10K. The heat isn't ideal but it's really not that strenuous for an athlete.
If he has any sense, the training will be lighter this week.
A message needed to be sent regardless of "sports science".
Yes because they simply don't have a good attitude and will still take it into the Liverpool match. May as well make them suffer as they don't seem like the have any fecking pride and just want to go through their mediocre motions.
I have us (United) coming in at 6th this season. Thats may be optimistic based on the way we are playing at the moment. Hopefully, we have the key components come in within the few weeks that are left of the window.
If we were expecting a top four challenge this season then I would say it's pretty clear our season is already heading straight off the rails. Given how bad things are, it's hard to see how 6th place isn't the limit of our league ambition.
In which case, just embrace that it's gonna happen. League finish doesn't matter, hope we do something in the cups and lets see what actual changes happen in terms of style of play, players being sold, players being dropped, etc.
I'm specifically thinking of Arsenal under Arteta. 8th place finishes, high profile senior players being discarded, captaincy changes, goalkeepers being dropped, bust-ups behind the scenes, bad losses, new players getting opportunities, etc. And whether they finish top four or not this season, they've come out of it a better team. Give me all that chaos but faster and harder.
Why do what the sports scientists recommend to keep the players in peak physical condition if you get the Brentford result again? Nonsense.
Its difficult if you have to run at speed and not at long distance/marathon pace.
A football captain seems to do little on the pitch other than shout heads or tails. They don't make key decisions like rugby or cricket captains. Some football clubs even have a team captain and a club captain. It's not as an important position as made out.Why don't we just forget about having a captain? None of them deserve it anyway. Whoever does well in training and shows a modicum of professionalism can be the captain for the next match. Feck it.
Need the CEO to take charge and lay down the law. These players just want to hang around in mediocrity. No doubt they want DDG to be captain. The guy who can't stop throwing goals into his own net
Depressing stuff.
I doubt Erik didn't just rock up in a bad mood on Sunday and decided to send them on the run. He'd have undoubtedly spoken with his fitness/sports science team before doing it.
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