Every single team that is top quality plays from the back. So ask yourself, is the right answer to not do so to try and perhaps win a couple games now and keep our backward style, or do we stick to modernising, maybe losing some now, but showing these frauds that no matter what they gotta get better or they’ll be out the door? We are not winning shutting any time soon. Nor getting top 4. It is pointless to sacrifice real change to do marginally better now.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Better not. I am not in a mood to hear them either.
That's worrying. Makes me think back to the instant transformation Poch had on Southampton. They went for laziest to hardest working within no time.
What a load of bollocks
Ofcourse , you are. Congratulations.
You're not in the state for a good discussion. We should stop here.
High line, giving the ball away in our own half, the running was all done by people running backwards
We have the right manager and the wrong virtually everything else,
No question ETH is a capable manager, but he needs to immediately admit he can't fix the players we have and start removing the worst of the rot from the squad.
Play the kids. Recall Henderson. Shoot Maguire and Shaw off in a rocket straight into the sun.
We need drastic changes ASAP.
Play the kids. Recall Henderson. Shoot Maguire and Shaw off in a rocket straight into the sun.
We need drastic changes ASAP.
The fundamental issue on this forum right now is that too many people are focussing on the wrong things when deciding what those goals are. For me, it should all about how he’s driving change, not results.
Conte would have gone ballistic at our transfer dealings and left by Christmas.
There is no budget because we are parking the money for a midfielder who may not even want to come.
There are players like Malacia on the cheap, who probably is not up to the standard we want to achieve yet, but still has a lot of room to improve and he might just grow with the team.
He apparently underestimated the physical part of EPL from these two games. It’s ok. My worry is how quickly he learns and finds the solution.
the whole thing is very complicated and difficult. DDG let the whole team down today. I don’t know if he will still want to transfer our play style. We don’t even have much chance to try it over these two games. Next few games are more difficult than these.
And everyone on this board could of told. You these players wouldn't run. Yet we are seeing them on the teamsheet
ETH massively underestimated the the size of the task with this group of players. The good news is I think it dawned on him after the first 45 today., Lets see where this goes. He needs proper backing from the board but needs to get the recruitment right. Its a tall order we've moved too slowly to overhaul this squad. wish him well choppy seas ahead
He really has to take blame for the transfer strategy so far. Imagine thinking De Jong or Rabiot are the only players out there who’d improve our midfield.
hoping some of his decisions have been to send a message to the board
a real statement would be to play only kids against liverpool but people will say it's no good as they will get thrashed and it won't be good for them but I think they would do better, or try more at least and they would learn from it, also a chance to see who can take a step up
a real statement would be to play only kids against liverpool but people will say it's no good as they will get thrashed and it won't be good for them but I think they would do better, or try more at least and they would learn from it, also a chance to see who can take a step up
Absolute whopper.
SOS OGS.
SOS OGS.
I can't believe people are even discussing whether ETH is good enough after 2 games. Insanity.
Needs the season. The mentality needs fixing. These are mainly better players than Brentford but they can’t regroup or get their heads back in the game if we go 1-0 down and if we concede a quick fire second goal then it’s game over.
Mentality muppets.
Didn't think the red tops cracked United badge would be out so early though.
Mentality muppets.
Didn't think the red tops cracked United badge would be out so early though.
We knew last month he was doomed to fail this squad is worse than it has ever been he needs a hell of a lot more, no matter how good you are/think you are not a manager on this planet would win against an incompetent structure, a greedy ownership and an ill equipped squad that no self respecting quality player would want to join.
In other words its beyond FOOLISH to directly blame him, he is going in to a boxing match blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back.
In other words its beyond FOOLISH to directly blame him, he is going in to a boxing match blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back.
It's two games, yes it's shit but to lose faith in the guy already is pitiful. Support the bloke! The players aint up to it, we know that but he can't buy a new squad in a window and we're going to have some shockers along the way but hopefully he can implement his play style and we'll see younger players brought in along with new signings.
But it's critical and I mean critical that we get four more in this window. If ETH has a relationship with FDJ he should ring him tonight and ask him outright if he's going to come or not and if not move on and get this squad stronger.
But it's critical and I mean critical that we get four more in this window. If ETH has a relationship with FDJ he should ring him tonight and ask him outright if he's going to come or not and if not move on and get this squad stronger.
Has he given a post match interview yet?
I know, at this point it might not even be a discussion by next week
Nice. So relax and calm down. We will get thrashed by Liverpool next week. Don't be part of the journey if you are not patient. It's going to be painful.
He played McFred in first match. Our two de facto DMs. That didn't work. So today he tried one at a time. That didn't work either.
But I agree with you. This is EPL and a top team needs a top CDM. ETH ignored that and here we are.
He’s not going to do it in his first two games though is he
hindsight is wonderful
he also can’t do anything about de gea letting in a soft goal and Eriksen scuffing a pass
De Gea just did, said he cost the team 3 points today
Of course I'd love us to play some modern football. But as a manager you gotta do what you can with what you have first. Anyway you could notice in the second half we stopped trying to play out from the back. He knew he made a mistake.
Tbh I like ETH and I do want him to make it here. But if he keeps making these mistakes he won't last long here.
Unfortunately, if it stays like this I can see us sacking him before the WC and bringing in Poch, another clean slate for the players.
He needs help from others if he is to get the right players in and turn this around fully but also it's a real learning curve to see what the top level requires for ten Hag. I feel a bit for him as everywhere he looks there's poor and soft players and he's trying to be positive and use what he's got and will need so much time to repair and many are unable to be fixed and need shipping out.
Bet that dossier that Ten Hag gave to Murtough and Fletcher didnt once feature the names Arnautovic or Rabiot. Probably not even Martinez. But we all like Plan C's and D's at this club!!
Does ETH still believe what the club have told him ==> that this team is good enough because it was second two seasons ago? I bet he realizes he’s been duped.
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Yep, it's on the cards
Yikes!
Since Mourinho we have been a counter attacking manager. Ole was counter attacking and then Rangnick gave up on pressing after two games when he saw us.
To play attacking possession football we need a different set of players. Having said that i wouldnt be surprized if ETH is sacked before this happens.
To play attacking possession football we need a different set of players. Having said that i wouldnt be surprized if ETH is sacked before this happens.
Most if not all of the United fanbase agrees with you at this point
Should be sacked! Get in Pochettino.
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