Or Varane and Wan Bissaka. Both better players than those who started.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Everything went shit after we sold James, and signed Ronaldo.
Lets sell Ronaldo and buy back James.
Lets sell Ronaldo and buy back James.
This squad cant be fixed by replacing 2-3 by 2-3 players, because cnuts are rotten, those remaining, they gonna drag new fecks into their shit, a never ending cycle. 90% of this squad had to be purged, sell, loan, move to reserves as long they are not in the picture, get young hugry on low wages non quality players, at least you might see some fight, they might be easier to coach and they could still lose 4:0 vs Brentford but at least they wouldnt be stealing a living, unlike most of current leechers.
Sadly he wanted to form his own opinion, RR must be crazy, gave clean slate to these feckers and hope he enjoys now performances and results, chicken shit.
Sadly he wanted to form his own opinion, RR must be crazy, gave clean slate to these feckers and hope he enjoys now performances and results, chicken shit.
I don't know what he's been trying but it's clearly not working. That super high line is simply suicidal. We're trying to play a football that we're clearly not capable of.
He doesn't?
He was told what to do by ralf and he's also been told what to do by supporters yet still went into the season with rashford, maguire as captain , shaw, fred and mctom. Anyone on this board could of told him. Ego got in the way. He thought he could change them instead of listening.
Varane — yes, but he has fitness issues. I'd imagine that he's going to be a starter eventually if he keeps fit.
Wan-Bissaka is equally horrible.
Yeah we can appreciate it's not going to be a quick project but there has to be some indication that the project has indeed started.
No it isn't. It is utterly consistent coming off of the back of last season.
He’ll be gone by the time the World Cup starts
What was his options ?
Should of had a new midfield for the start of this season but we didn’t and I think that’s where the problem lies. The past few managers have gone into seasons starting them 2 absolute clowns. If we can see it why can’t the owners?! So frustrating
Some of you need to look back at the early Arteta threads.
I fully expect us to go through what they went through for a year or two. Stick with the guy, get rid of moaners ruthlessly and rebuild.
No player should consider themselves bigger than the club.
I fully expect us to go through what they went through for a year or two. Stick with the guy, get rid of moaners ruthlessly and rebuild.
No player should consider themselves bigger than the club.
Shouldn't be surprised people are using Conte as the next magical fix to it all.
If Conte was managing this team he'd have quit by now.
He had a Spurs team last year that was so frustrating for him that we were making fun of Conte for threatening to quit after they lost to Burnley 1 -0
If Conte is managing United, the ones above him are still bollocking up the transfer window, leaving him with a broken squad.
And then everyone is saying "Should have hired Ten Hag"
Club is dying with people above the manager overseeing it fail. These consistently rubbish performances from bad players are just short glimpses of it.
Expecting 2 maybe 3 panic signings to come in and another worthless season.
I'd stick with Ten Hag though.
If Conte was managing this team he'd have quit by now.
He had a Spurs team last year that was so frustrating for him that we were making fun of Conte for threatening to quit after they lost to Burnley 1 -0
If Conte is managing United, the ones above him are still bollocking up the transfer window, leaving him with a broken squad.
And then everyone is saying "Should have hired Ten Hag"
Club is dying with people above the manager overseeing it fail. These consistently rubbish performances from bad players are just short glimpses of it.
Expecting 2 maybe 3 panic signings to come in and another worthless season.
I'd stick with Ten Hag though.
The fact he looks ready to kill is enough for me. No smiles or "lol whoops" expression. Pure fury at this shite.
I beg to differ. He’s had a bad year no doubt and he may never be the player we need. He’s better than Dalot though and he’ll have a better career.
You think one midfielder fixes that?
Undoubetdly and his transfer targets have indicated as such alongside our first two performances. Hope is he will learn as it is early days and our tranfer activity thus far has been poor.
Arrogance full on display by giving starts to players we know have become completely hopeless (Maguire, Bruno, Dalot, Shaw). I don't know if it would have made a difference but not meeting Ralf was weird at the time.
Maybe he could have emphasized to him how truly shit some of these players truly are.
Was Martinez really that needed instead of midfielders ?
Maybe he could have emphasized to him how truly shit some of these players truly are.
Was Martinez really that needed instead of midfielders ?
He’s being let down by the players and the infrastructure around him, but I do fear he’s another massively naive Dutch league coach who thinks he can come to the Premier League and easily adapt his tactics to a side who have never played anything close to Ajax Cruijffian philosophy football (since well LVG I guess).
Squad selection, transfer targets… it’s not looking good brev.
Squad selection, transfer targets… it’s not looking good brev.
Exactly. Calm the feck down . It will get better.We spent the summer saying "things might get worse before they get better" and "give ETH time".
We are 1 and a half games in (yes terrible performances) and people are calling him De Boar and saying he needs to go
I changed that to ‘midfield’
The club are going to go full on PR offensive and start blaming Ralf for all this when we get smashed off the dippers
Can already see the guys patience is wearing thin with some of these absolute clowns.
Need to stop pointing fingers at managers and realise we’ve got a rancid playing group.
Need to stop pointing fingers at managers and realise we’ve got a rancid playing group.
Yep, Arsenal is the parallel at this point. Calm heads and patience needs to win the day.
What exactly is the blame?
Agree, we need a whole new spine also
Another lad with a God complex humbly learning that he cannot turn shit into strawberry smoothie.
Very worrying. He was supposed to be a meticulous manager and yet he’s missed things that everyone and their blind gran can see.
Yes they are options. After last season he should have not bothered with dalot and maguire or Shaw. Forget them
Still, a blunder maintaining Maguire as captain and pursuing on fdj.
Can't blame 100% on him, mostly the players let him down (as usual).
Can't blame 100% on him, mostly the players let him down (as usual).
ETH is on the slippery slop. If he continues to think that Rashford, Bruno, McTominay, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, DDG, VDB maybe Sancho is good enough to play then all hope is lost. He will be finding a new job pretty soon.
Again, a genuine question, what should he do? He clearly wasn't given the funds for a proper rebuild and no one have been offering Maguire, Shaw and McTominay lucrative contracts trying to steal them away from us.
If he looks equally clueless at the second half of the season, without any youngsters introduces in the squad etc., you can certainly blame him for failing. At this point he's been given a toxic unmotivated and mostly mediocre squad in the worst mental state imaginable.
I worry that after giving every single post-Fergie manager too much time, we're going to give the one manager who actually needs it none
He will seriously test my trust in him if after seeing EPL intensity and quality first hand now he will continue to pursue the players from feckin Erdvise like Gapko or whatever.
Same question as with Rangnick, why is he still persisting with some of these players.
Giving the players a clean slate could cost him his job.
Giving the players a clean slate could cost him his job.
His tactical setup and shape on the pitch is shit and we talked about that multiple times in the previous pages.
He's got everything wrong so far since he joined United.
Still backing ETH. Squad is the problem. Needs time and different players. Glazers aren't gonna do what it takes though.
Arteta was backed massively over some big decisions — Ozil, Aubameyang, Saliba (initially), Guendouzi etc. — will the club give ten Hag the same sort of backing if he wants to bin De Gea, Rashford, Maguire?
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