Another decade of drought ? What are you talking about ?
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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There is no denying that winning the FA cup gives ETH a huge boost.
I will say I've gone from must sack to I'd be okay seeing how he does with the last year of his contract.
His main flaws: Stubbornness, inability to make the right subs/tactical changes and bad talent recognition still remain though.
I will say I've gone from must sack to I'd be okay seeing how he does with the last year of his contract.
His main flaws: Stubbornness, inability to make the right subs/tactical changes and bad talent recognition still remain though.
Good win.
Au revoir Eric
Au revoir Eric
Winning a trophy against Man City ought to be huge for Ten Hag's tenure. That was a full strength Man City side, desperate to win, with Guardiola going ballistic on the touchline - and Erik Ten Hag came out on top.
It doesn't make sense to stick with Ten Hag through a difficult season and then part ways after he's won a cup final no-one gave him a chance of winning. Hasn't he just vindicated the reason why you stuck with him?
To be fair, he generally finished the season on a high note having got players like Lisandro back and decided to play a genuine DM instead of having no midfield presence.
And it makes even less sense to replace a trophy winner with a guy who has finished second in the Championship.
The only way it could be justified is if you were replacing him with a top manager, like Guardiola or Ancelotti, but that is not going to happen and is bad optics anyway. We're choosing from prospects and coaches who are arguably on Mourinho-esque downward spirals.
It's better just to stick with ETH and see where it goes next season.
It doesn't make sense to stick with Ten Hag through a difficult season and then part ways after he's won a cup final no-one gave him a chance of winning. Hasn't he just vindicated the reason why you stuck with him?
To be fair, he generally finished the season on a high note having got players like Lisandro back and decided to play a genuine DM instead of having no midfield presence.
And it makes even less sense to replace a trophy winner with a guy who has finished second in the Championship.
The only way it could be justified is if you were replacing him with a top manager, like Guardiola or Ancelotti, but that is not going to happen and is bad optics anyway. We're choosing from prospects and coaches who are arguably on Mourinho-esque downward spirals.
It's better just to stick with ETH and see where it goes next season.
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as a figure of speech. He reached 3 finals in 2 seasons and won 2 of them. How many has Arteta won in the past few years? And yet he gets the confidence. UTD is one of the hardest if not hardest clubs to manage but he came and did what he promised, win trophies. Now everyone is chanting for him to leave, and then what? Another reset, another project, another process that would need a few years. You will never get your Ferguson if you keep your coaches after 2 season. I can't believe for all the people asking for him to leave after reaching 3 finals in 2 years with this team... seriously
Fanbase is fickle as feck and a lot of people here have a memory of a goldfish. Scamming a win against City doesnt undo his horrible work this season. We ended up with MINUS goal difference (!!!) and have our worst finish ever since I dont know when. Also that CL campaign was disastrous. He got a good send off and its time for us to start a new page. The best analogy is a husband who keeps beating his wife for a whole year but when he brings her to a fancy christmas dinner she decides to stay because of that one moment. That's how dumb the argument of keeping him is. We were playing Ole ball while having 27% possession and I dont see any of his replacement who cannot do that either.
When did we last win this? 16-17? How many have we won since?
That's quite specific.
The way I see it is that football is simply more than just getting trophies, that's why Arteta is getting some peace because despite being trophyless, they're playing well and have improved league wise over the years. I'm sure by next season, if Arteta doesn't deliver a trophy, most gooners would want him out.
Hell, even right now I know many of them who wanna see him sacked.
Very well sumed up. A nice ending to an otherwise abysmal season, but it shouldnt change anything.
We are looking for a manager who can win the big trophies and in that regard i have no confidence in him
The most overrated manager imo. People remember him for that 1 season at Spurs. Since then he was mediocre at best. I rather give ETH another chance
I'd ask whether you have? Other than maybe Rashford (and arguably Casemiro for a month or two), it's clear that all the players have been trying their best out there. There were just being set up to fail in with a formation and tactical playstyle that made it almost impossible for them.
It's absolutely nothing like what happened in the Ole/Rangnick season when the players were just going through the motions.
Preach.
If the club sack ETH then I can see my love for the club hollowing as well. Don’t think Incould get behind that.
His position still feels borderline untenable after a calamity of a season. our worst on record in the premier league era, it just can't be ignored.
Only real positive is the reaction from the players post match puts to bed any rumours of players downing tools for him, they clearly love him.
The FA Cup win and the lack of a standout candidate however, it wouldnt be a shock if he stayed for his remaining year and see how he gets on.
Only real positive is the reaction from the players post match puts to bed any rumours of players downing tools for him, they clearly love him.
The FA Cup win and the lack of a standout candidate however, it wouldnt be a shock if he stayed for his remaining year and see how he gets on.
I agree. I would be very disappointed if Ineos sacked him now. We must build on this.
I want Ten Hag to be given another season but I won't complain if he is sacked and the new management want their own guy at the helm. Some of his decisions have been baffling and ultimately might lead to his dismissal. I don't see how sticking to his suicidal setup, conceding heavily and losing far too many games in the process could be considered less demoralizing than changing to a more pragmatic approach when it's not working with the players at his disposal. If he used a similar setup as seen in the last few weeks at a much earlier point in the season do people not think we couldn't have picked up another 10 or 12 points and potentially finished in the CL spots? That might end up being the difference between him being in the job or not.
Yeah much as I want him to be sacked even I will admit there is gonna be uproar if they did after this
Good to see folks enjoying the win 
With all due respect, post like this doesn't explain anything about why the club has been in shambles, the last decade.
The reason why we have been so bad is the lack of structure and vision. That way we haven't recruited talented enough players, managers and people at the club. City fired Manchini even trough he was the one who instilled this so called "winning mentality" at City. Guess what, they didn't suddenly begin to lose again.
Fans are way to emotional and reactionary. That is what the poll shows, it doesn't give any reason towards if we should sack Ten Hag or not.
We have won 3 games in a row and suddenly people changes their minds. Even though we didn't play well in any one of those games. This is the foremost reason why we should sack Ten Hag. He hasn't and can't instill a dominating style that can be successful over time. Sure we can win a cup or two, but is that what you want? I want to win champions leagues and premier leagues. Mourinho won trophies, was it the wrong decision to sack him?
I implore everyone to look at the last two seasons and ask yourself, how likely is it that we will win a prem title with Ten Hag. Because in my world the chances are close to 0.
Super happy with the win yesterday, and the fact that both the men’s and women’s teams won the cup this season.
I think I would like Ten Hag to stay. I can’t see a better option and I don’t think keep changing managers is helpful. Sometimes his substitutions I don’t think benefit the play, also the tactics going into a game, and the apparent lack of changing mid game if they’re not working.
However, yesterday when the players apparently decided they all wanted to put a shift in we beat the best team in the league. The manager was still the same so why hasn’t that happened all season. Most matches I’ve watched it’s been the opposition who’ve put the effort in and that’s been our downfall. If the players can’t be bothered I don’t blame the manager.
I think I would like Ten Hag to stay. I can’t see a better option and I don’t think keep changing managers is helpful. Sometimes his substitutions I don’t think benefit the play, also the tactics going into a game, and the apparent lack of changing mid game if they’re not working.
However, yesterday when the players apparently decided they all wanted to put a shift in we beat the best team in the league. The manager was still the same so why hasn’t that happened all season. Most matches I’ve watched it’s been the opposition who’ve put the effort in and that’s been our downfall. If the players can’t be bothered I don’t blame the manager.
I think we give him another year. This season has been crap but during his 2 years at the club there's one thing he's proving to be quite good at. Reaching finals.
We have the makings of a very young side who are already showing they can perform under pressure on the big stage and I think the club need to decide whether they allow this situation to grow or to potentially disrupt it with a new manager.
We have the makings of a very young side who are already showing they can perform under pressure on the big stage and I think the club need to decide whether they allow this situation to grow or to potentially disrupt it with a new manager.
A decision will be made next week on him. I can see a lot of people being disappointed. I think they may end up giving him another season.
Poch may get something out of this squad. His man management is meant to be one of the best around. McKenna I don’t thinks ready yet. Southgate, absolutely no chance. Potter, don’t think he’s good enough at bigger teams. Tuchel, might win a cup in the first season but then will fall of. De Zerbi, plays good football but to open and will lose us a few games heavily and have results like we’ve seen under ETH.
Everytime I watch interviews with him he seems to say the right things.
Managed to win the last 3 games of the season. A small turn around, against 3 tough teams. If he stays he has to learn and plan for every game.
2 out of 3 finals he’s won which is very good. The first time peps ever lost a domestic final.
Eth spoke very well before and after the game, he was asked difficult questions by Lineker and Shearer and told them straight realy..
Same to the Itv crew as well he was a bit more relaxed with them than the BBC ..
It's all a bit to late though it may seem, winning the FA cup and winning it with a top quality game plan which was stuck to for 97 mins may well save his job. .
Same to the Itv crew as well he was a bit more relaxed with them than the BBC ..
It's all a bit to late though it may seem, winning the FA cup and winning it with a top quality game plan which was stuck to for 97 mins may well save his job. .
Can someone post and pin the coventry match highlights. People apparently have the memory of a gold fish. We would not even be in the final if not for a minor offside.
The decision has already been made
Two trophies in two years should never be understated considering where the team has been. There are only about a handful of them available, and I believe management is also about being able to rally the team to turn up when it matters. This style of play crusade these days irks me so much.
He had an unequivocally good first season, and we have had way too many injuries this season for the 8th place finish to be considered a decent gauge. The best performing teams in each season usually have one thing in common — not many injuries to the key players over the course of the season. How many games in the last two seasons were Arsenal missing a significant number of key players? If the injuries, one way or the other decide to pile up next season, they will struggle too.
With changes supposedly being made behind the scenes, we should stick with him. There is no reason to make a change considering how uninspiring the other options are. The players are playing for him, he has had one decent season and another one you cannot realistically judge, and he has trophies in him. Sacking him would just be making a change for the sake of it.
He had an unequivocally good first season, and we have had way too many injuries this season for the 8th place finish to be considered a decent gauge. The best performing teams in each season usually have one thing in common — not many injuries to the key players over the course of the season. How many games in the last two seasons were Arsenal missing a significant number of key players? If the injuries, one way or the other decide to pile up next season, they will struggle too.
With changes supposedly being made behind the scenes, we should stick with him. There is no reason to make a change considering how uninspiring the other options are. The players are playing for him, he has had one decent season and another one you cannot realistically judge, and he has trophies in him. Sacking him would just be making a change for the sake of it.
Yep. Outside of England, the German cups he lost were on pens and the Copa Del Rey went to extra time. Beating this side in 90 minutes is very impressive.
Thank god the owners aren’t as reactionary as the fans and Ed Woodward. We would literally be repeating poor decisions over and over again.
Lovely final. Thank you Erik for the knockout trophies. Good luck at your new club.
Lovely final. Thank you Erik for the knockout trophies. Good luck at your new club.
Eth just doesn’t affect the game from the touchline at all unfortunately.
Even yesterday, when everything was under control and Doku started giving AWB a run around, any decent coach would have made a change or instructed a tweak. Instead he just stood there clueless on how to respond.
The amount of space and time we gave Doku really gave me a headache. But not to our coach who is a professional and was looking at it from much closer. How does this happen?
Even yesterday, when everything was under control and Doku started giving AWB a run around, any decent coach would have made a change or instructed a tweak. Instead he just stood there clueless on how to respond.
The amount of space and time we gave Doku really gave me a headache. But not to our coach who is a professional and was looking at it from much closer. How does this happen?
Yeah, if the refs ignored offside we wouldn’t even be in the final.
3 finals in two year with this team? We've had a better team than everyone we have faced on the way to each final, apart from Liverpool. Although even they were hit by injuries and playing a number of players from their youth team. It's annoying to see people discredit our players so much, the quality of the players in individual moments has saved this season from being even worse. And on top of that we've got Bruno who is creating more chances than anybody else in the game. Imagine how shite our whole gameplan would look if we took even just his individual brilliance out
Lots of hurt ManUtd fans that are sad we won.
You just have to accept that it is another trophy. 2 in 2 years. Despite having injuries destroying us during season, media having their ABU agenda and VAR and referees giving some wierd decision where we could have 20+ more points.
You just have to accept that it is another trophy. 2 in 2 years. Despite having injuries destroying us during season, media having their ABU agenda and VAR and referees giving some wierd decision where we could have 20+ more points.
I would like to him to have one more year and that's it. I'm not talking about trophies but I would like to see some real progress. After the next season though if he does not manage good enough it must be 100% goodbye in my opinion.
Yesterday was amazing. Into Europa and kicking out some rivals is great fun. But it’s been a terrible season and his team selections and tactics are a huge part of that. I think now is time to part ways and he can be proud of himself and the team for ending it on a high note.
If he does stay I’ll certainly back him but if he fails in the league again there will be no patience afforded and both he and INEOS will be in the firing line.
If he does stay I’ll certainly back him but if he fails in the league again there will be no patience afforded and both he and INEOS will be in the firing line.
The alternatives don’t look promising do they.. Tuchel’s the only one you’d see as an upgrade based on trophies alone, but you know he’ll be gone in 2-3 seasons from United. I’m not so sure he’ll deliver the big trophies during that tenure with this young team.
I think the manager rightly should get the sack for those performances in the PL, but due to the lack of any good alternatives maybe we should give him his last chance.
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Tuchel will deliver nothing with this team, like all of them on the list.
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