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Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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It's just rumours then, as was reported with Poch it was up in the air with what was happening to him right up until the day before he went, and this could still be the case with Ten Hag, the FA Cup game and the meetings that will probably happen afterwards might genuinely still mean things aren't decided yet.
It'd be stupid of us to not have options lined if he does go, and I'd also think it's quite hard to stop people from talking to the media as well.
Yeah because I'm sure the players aren't speculating either
He's a strange one.
I think that's incredibly naive.
Would make more sense to privately tell them. Bayern ended up looking like foolsYeah because I'm sure the players aren't speculating either
Not too late to get McKenna or Tuchel in before the Cup final
Bayern did it mid-season. Different scenario.
The moment you contact the representatives of managers, you lose control of the information. There is too many outsiders involved.
And Erik has been a lot worse yet we should give him more time and more money than any manager ever.
Posted this in November, Muppetiers called this way back, fair play to them.
29:00 in this video.
Firing LVG was a mistake? Not for my sleep patterns it wasn’t!
Too much potential to increase the profile of their client too. "Look guys, this man is wanted by both Chelsea and Man Utd" is a bit of PR too good to pass up.
Whacked out interpretation of the current situation:
Ten Hag is staying. He and INEOS are on the same page. The rumors swirling round give hope to those players downing tools but want to show any incoming manager that they can still do a job. Reality is that they are in the shop window during the FA Cup final and their false hopes drive up their values on the market.
4D chess for the win.
Ten Hag is staying. He and INEOS are on the same page. The rumors swirling round give hope to those players downing tools but want to show any incoming manager that they can still do a job. Reality is that they are in the shop window during the FA Cup final and their false hopes drive up their values on the market.
4D chess for the win.
Yep. This clear leaking of stuff to the press stinks.
It's a massive negative already against INEOS.
Why are you convinced this is coming from United's end?
As much as I'd like to satisfy curiosity, I don't see any benefit to announcing his sacking just before the cup final. By not saying anything at least it gives him the chance to focus on the game, rather than answer questions about the dismal season and how much he's responsible for.
It's one report on Sky and then a load of gossip of different names that would always happen when the biggest club in the country comes 8th. Even if any of it is true it would be impossible to stop some gossip coming out once there are multiple parties involved, this doesn't seem like the type of thing we had under Woodward where every journalist would have the same story simultaneously and it was clear they'd all been tipped off.
Maybe, but it seems a bit daft to say we have handled things badly on the back of a few new manager stories, it's clear we're going to be linked to everyone at the moment.
it was Potter for a while, then Southgate, Tuchel a couple of weeks ago, Poch for 48 hours, and now Mckenna.
The only thing Ineos have done is say nothing about Ten Hag, which they've done all the way through.
You have no idea who is responsible for any information that gets leaked
We are pressing high but it is shambolic and lacking coordination. Plus combining a high press with a low block means a huge vacuum in the middle that teams have been using to hurt us.
More chance creation? Do you have stats to back up this claim? We must be really poor finishers given how low scoring we have been this season.
According to premierleague.com, we created 84 big chances last season vs 60 this season.
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_created?se=489
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_created?se=578
Early in the season, I was backing Ten Hag to turn it around (we were abysmal from the go) but over time I've totally turned against him. It's been unwatchable. Even with injuries, we should be putting away teams like Burnley with ease, instead we looked their equals.
I find it amusing that the wording in all the reports is along the lines of "if United sack Ten Hag", as if the decision hasn't already been made
Ah this argument never gets old. You're right, how can we possibly expect a professional manager to do anything with players another manager before him signed? I mean it's not like Emery was able to get Gerrards relegation fodder into the top 4, Villa had to sell absolutely everyone and buy new players before he was able to do that.
As per, it's absolute bollocks and wild that people are still using this excuse to absolve Ten Hag for his many shortcomings.
If your puzzle can't be completed without signing De Jong or having a fit left footed CB then your puzzle is fecking dogshit and belongs in the bin.
Was gonna comment on this also. Every single story in the last 24 hours is "<insert name> is in the lead for the United job, (should Ten Hag leave)". It's clear they know already.
Clearly the decision has been made
I think it's more the media hedging their bets as usual. If ETH stays then they can say "well we did say IF"
I think this is a good and realistic shortlist. My preference would probably be 1. Tuchel, 2. Poch, 3. McKenna, 4. Frank, but I see upside for all of them. The latter 2 carry a lot more risk imo.
Ten Hag to be sacked, if Ten Hag leaves at the end of the season.
Yeah it is clear that Ten Hag is gone. This doesn't happen if they plan on keeping him. And they surely aren't putting it all on the cup final performance against man city one way or another
Yeah it's pretty obvious the decision to sack Ten Hag has already been made and they're just not announcing it yet for obvious reasons.
It's absolutely the correct decision as well, as it should not be made based on a one-off game where everything can happen. Win or not, Hag isn't good enough to take us forward.
It's absolutely the correct decision as well, as it should not be made based on a one-off game where everything can happen. Win or not, Hag isn't good enough to take us forward.
They're in the mud, it's the sacking they have the issue with, nothing else.
In the scenario that Mckenna goes to Chelsea if we don't get him, then McKenna goes top of the list IMO.
If McKenna goes to Brighton ahead of Chelsea, then Tuchel is top for me. No interest in Frank or Pochettino. It is Tuchel or McKenna, but only Tuchel if McKenna takes the development route.
Also no coincidence of those 4 names 2 are out of contract and 2 are cheap buyouts.
Frank though. You seen the way that guy gives you the side eye?
No not at all.
He's 100% gone. Too many reputable reports now, and the shortlist is actually realistic as opposed to a few months back. Potter and Southgate ffs.
They know he's gone: https://onefootball.com/en/news/man...r-what-theyve-seen-behind-the-scenes-39334795Yeah because I'm sure the players aren't speculating either
Can you imagine not extending the current managers contract, saying for months you'll assess him at the end of the season, then 3 days before a cup final it's revealed you've spoken to at least 5 different managers as "contingencies".
And then you end up keeping the current guy? He'd be the most undermined guy on the planet.
And then you end up keeping the current guy? He'd be the most undermined guy on the planet.
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