Is this your first time in this thread ? It would be dead if the regular posters “moved on without the drama”
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Is this your first time in this thread ? It would be dead if the regular posters “moved on without the drama”
Even more bizarre they both think our fans are amazing and show huge support to the club…
Which top manager is available to come to United? Pep is at City. Klopp won't come to United. Alonso is staying at Leverkusen. Those are 3 names I would say would walk into this job at United. I can't think of any other top manager of that pedigree. This is my opinion of course and you're welcome to disagree with it.
So we'll finish 7th or 8th. Our worst league position in PL history or our equal worst league position since Moyes.
We'll likely finish the season with a negative goal difference. When has that ever happened?
If we don't win at Brighton, we'll finish the season with our lowest PL points tally ever. If we win it will be our worst points tally, 2 points more than the Ole/Rangnick disaster season.
But yes, injuries and a dealing with a broken football structure...
We'll likely finish the season with a negative goal difference. When has that ever happened?
If we don't win at Brighton, we'll finish the season with our lowest PL points tally ever. If we win it will be our worst points tally, 2 points more than the Ole/Rangnick disaster season.
But yes, injuries and a dealing with a broken football structure...
No not my first time but saying someone 'is bringing the place down' is a bit over dramatic don't you thinkIs this your first time in this thread ? It would be dead if the regular posters “moved on without the drama”
The last two games, like last season, have shown that Ten Hag was more than capable in setting us up to be more compact and harder to play through. He chose the kamikaze five players press style of football. That's the main reason we are languishing in the table. Just another reason to be annoyed.
Great Post match interview by him following a brilliant rallying cry infront of OT. I've wanted him out for probably a year now but he is certainly fighting his hardest to save his job and that alone is very impressive for me. If we look decent against Brighton and win the FA cup then I will change my vote to keep and I dont care if that comes across as fickle.
Stop @ing me and willingly misinterpreting my posts because you have mod protection.
Is he playing these players and this way because his normal group is out? Or has he genuinely switched things up? If Rashford is fit, Ten Hag plays him which means Amad out. I'd say the same thing for Amrabat if Lisandro was fit. He would move Casemiro back to DM and drop Amrabat. So no, I don't think much has changed with Ten Hag.
More charisma in that speech than in 2 years of pressers
Was it really though? The Amad neglect looks bad but although I thought Amrabat had a good (ish) game you'd have to be blind not to see the problems of his game and I can kind of see why he's not being picked. Two fantastic goal-denying blocks/challenges against two horrible mistakes that could have been very costly and it's not the first time we've seen this (City game for instance). It's just unfortunate that whoever starts in our midfield-Eriksen, McTominay, or Amrabat- always has obvious good and bad points to their game.
I agree.
The feeling I have leaving the ground, win or lose, is always so much more positive than reading the shite that gets regurgitated on here.
Paul Merson said that? The magic man? Well now that's got me thinking
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I was in great spirits until you came along, as you would, doing your thing and conjuring up the specter of another season of Ten Hag
But in honesty, let's enjoy the win and there are plenty of positives today.
Sorry to rain on your parade.I honestly don’t think it would be a bad thing. I think it would be possibly the best thing to do.
I know there’s been a lot wrong and I know it’s not a popular view. But sometimes you get a feeling and I think with another season developing Mainoo, Garnacho and Højlund there might be something in this side.
Injured players returning etc.
If you only got 1/2 you’re doing great.
I think a new manager makes sense if they fit the culture INEOS wants to implement better.
I struggle to name a manager available that I think “yep that’s the one” but I’m not stupid enough to think that means there isn’t one. There could be. Or they could already be at the club.
It is overly dramatic. To be fair , you can’t bring a place down when the place is generally in the gutter
The whole league is full of managers who have performed and managed their team better than Ten Hag has, in regards to resources at hand and in relation to goals and expectations. You don't need Klopp or Pep to not finish fecking last in a CL group containing Kopenhagen and Galatasaray and to end up higher than 8th place in the league.
Yep, why we didn't pull this out against the likes of Bournemouth, Burnely etc. is my question as well. He's said (In that Neville interview) he didn't want to disrupt the progress by switching to another style of play, but that's hardly a reason to turn up our noses at a bit more revenue through getting a CL spot. He's either a bit loony, or knows he's got the job next season and is just taking the piss with our fans/media these days
Meh, we all are fickle from time to time. No harm in just getting behind them all for the last 2 games. Whatever will be will be next season
The person saying it doesn't matter. What he said is all that matters. When Ten Hag comes out to talk to the media, the fanbase starts saying he should be given more time. They ignore what we have seen in 90% of games this season.
I only said that because he’s constantly on the wum, it obviously causes people to bite and then it’s not a matter of opinions or discussion. Just sniping. I’m more than happy with peoples opinions and whatever they think
So Alonso is as good as Klopp and Pep after only one year in management? Did you think the same a year ago?
And of course even if that were true, we don't need to hire one of the worlds top 3 coaches to improve upon this season realistically. Beyond those 3, Arteta, Ancelotti and maybe 1-2 others. United can hire any manager in world football.
And if the thought process for any top club was ''Well Pep and Klopp aren't available, we might as well just keep our current manager.'' Very few top clubs would have changed manager over the last decade or so.
I was impressed by his speech too, I will change my vote to stay if we put in a great effort in the fa cup, I doubt we will win but if we play really well and also against Brighton.
I can't disagree with your post. Its tough times as a United fan. Its our worst season since Fergie and no one can disregard the fact. I don't envy our new execs and technical director but I'm sure whatever the case (Ten Hag In/Ten Hag Out) they will sort out the mess. I don't know the answers and can only offer my opinion but I remain hopeful things will start clicking for us. Be it next season or 3 years from now. The very least we can do is remain optimistic if only the fact we've recruited guys who know how a football club should run.
I've said it before in this forum, its going to get worse before it gets good again.
Thats your opinion.
We’ll find out what his everything means next weekend. He said the players will give everything to bring the trophy back to OT. Let’s see
He will but whether he does or not remains to be seen. Probably a 3-1 scoreline again. We always fear that there gonna absolutely annihilate us but ETH always plays compact against them. It’s all about how good our counter attacking is on the day.
He said that last year as well, and nothing changed.
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No shame in it.
Everyone loves a fighter and an underdog.
I do think he’s just too cocksure for him to be leaving right now. So we may aswell get used to it and strap ourselves in.
I haven’t tagged you? What did you mean by “Arsenitis” then?
Genuinely thought you either meant people are being arsey as in rude or that we have low standards?
As for “mod protection”
if you call mods not allowing posters to resort to name calling and attacking a poster not the post then that’s just them doing the job correctly.If you two foot a player and get a red card you can’t complain about the referee.
Fan standards have little to no bearing on our performance. Nor do they on the managerial position too. I don’t believe my personal views will keep Ten Hag in a job anymore or than yours will see him out of one.
It is.
I will be more optimistic in that I think next season will surely be better. Even if Ten Hag stays on it will not be as bad as this season, that much I will give him. So yeah, let's win the cup and move on from this nightmare.
He didn’t promise a win, he promised that the players would give everything, and they did. We played a close game vs. City in the final last season.
Just wondering why Amrabat didn't start With Mainoo more all season. Yes he's limited but hes comfortable enough with the ball at his feet instead of scott passing it sideways and backwards. Its pretty embaressing that Diallo has matched Anthonys record for the season in todays game. Garnacho at 19 looked absolutely gassed tonight after all the games he's played. Wouldn't be worried about Garnacho, he looked fatigued from kick off. Hopefully Ten Hag give him a rest till the final.
There are options I agree. Unsure who would come in and be able to move us into that top 4 bracket in the league. Really i'm not sure who I'd get in thats why I don't envy the position that Berrada and co are in at this moment. They have big decisions to make.
Just my opinion mate. I just want to see the club do well for a change and I hope our fortunes change for the better come next season regardless of who's in the hot seat.
I'm on the fence for giving Ten Hag one more season. That may be a very unpopular view on this forum but with Wilcox, Berrada and hopefully Ashworth behind him, they will start working on a new and exciting team. These guys are a major upgrade over the previous regime.
If the fact I spelled it with a capital letter does not make it obvious... but I'll humour you.
I mean the pathetic standards that have set in since Ferguson retired and that's getting worse because we have a whole new generation of fans that have been groomed to tolerate this bullshit, just like Arsenal with their pathetic celebrating of bottling the league two years in a row.
Having said that, maybe our fanbase was always this low-effort and only Fergie pushed the club to greatness beyond soap opera storylines (albeit great for the museum tour).
A top organisation (or even country) has its standards set from the bottom up and hence why Madrid are such a machine and why United are... for a lack of a better description pathetic (same as the UK at the moment).
I enjoyed the win today, but we are still 8th, with minus 3 goal difference, after spending 400 million. The win today proves that the main reason we are 8th is ETH, not the injuries, not the players, it was ETH that messed up our season. And the reason he messed up is that he is not a good manager, actually he is the worst manager we had in the past 30 years and that's why we will finish in the worst position of the past 30 years.
Family of reds! HAG in. The whole lot.
how anyone can argue any of this defies belief - bloke has delieverd a season that at any serious club would not have been tolerated , now he is out here giving trump like rallies hoping we simply forget the rubbish he has delivered week in week out ....eth is cooked
Amad's performance alone shows how poor a manager Ten Hag has been for is. It's shocking Ten Hag couldn't see what a talent Amad is and ignored him for Antony week in week out.
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