And we are now the joke for oppo fans.
There's a huge difference between players being actively put up for sale and us just being open to receiving offers. The latter means that IF a club comes in and gives us a good offer we'll think about it, but there's no real intention to sell them. In other words, exactly how it should be.
That's the part they like to leave out. The season Arteta finally committed serious money to players was the season they started improving significantly (Start of 21/22 season) and they have improved steadily every year since. Ten Hag blew £400m in his first two seasons and the team has never looked worse in the post Fergie era. Its not even a remotely comparable situation. He was backed financially more than any manager post-Fergie, effectively given the keys to the entire football side of the business and he STILL failed woefully. Pep and Klopp aside, nobody else in Europe has as much power over football decision making as he did.
We've 'sacked' players multiple times. The vast majority of the players in the squad have only played for one or two Utd managers (not counting interims). There's barely any players left that also played under Mourinho and especially LVG.
Yes, he did.
That's such a crazy idea to me. Why not sack every group of players whenever a team doesn't perform? Palace should have got rid of the players instead of replacing Hodgson with Glasner. Sometimes a manager just isn't up to the job for whatever reason. Why some people are having such a hard time accepting that with regard to ten Hag is bizarre.
Well Tuchel did the same and better by winning Big Ears with Chelsea and I wouldn't want him anywhere near United .
Are they being set up to fail? Or are they just not good enough to implement the managers style. Don’t forget under the last couple of managers we’ve been built to counter attack. That’s all we’ve ever done and been good at. We’ve never had to press or anything which is what ETH clearly wants. Did Klopp set Liverpool up to fail in his few few seasons? He had to get rid of and buy players. Obviously ETH has made massive mistakes in the transfer market and underestimated the premier league by signing players like Antony but that’s only because the clueless people who was running the show allowed him to. That won’t be the case anymore. We’ll be signing players now that are properly scouted and not just managers favourites.
True, but we’re talking about a manager that’s been sacked 3 times. Why would anyone go near him?
Well the point was Managers and Coaches get fired even after winning major trophies all the time , So Ten Hag getting stay of execution because he won a minor trophy and made it to some finals when it's clear as day it's not working anymore isn't the most prudent strategy and belies logic .
Fair point. And I think he’s done whether we win the FA cup or not. But Ratcliffe saying that all the managers have failed in a bad environment makes me think he’s giving him another year under his leadership.
Good point. You can look at it either way. Some managers would adjust or some would try to coach the players to play a certain way. I don’t think Guardiola changed his style in his first year at city, he might not have been able to play it due to not having the right players.
This is what is now angering the masses; familiarity is breeding contempt and things are getting sourer by the day.
Playing a defence that sits deep, an attack that pushes high, and a one man midfield is almost the definition of being set up to fail. It doesn't matter what players we have, it's not going to work. If you think otherwise, point out any successful teams that play close to that way (it's basically the exact opposite of every decent team of modern times which seek to crush the play into as small a space as possible when out of possession). It was blatantly obvious it was going to ripped apart as soon as we saw it in pre-season and the first couple of weeks of the season. ETH hasn't changed anything all season, and therefore it's continued to happen all season.
YeahHis not wrong. His talking about a lot of people in this thread. Guess they are pissed off about that
Both need to go. It isn't keep one or the other. The manager isn't doing his job and wasted a lot of resources given to him. He can complain about not having the players but when you buy Anthony for that colossal fee and get so little back, that is sack worthy alone.
Was thinking the same, especially when reading through the comments on his character following that tweet!His not wrong. His talking about a lot of people in this thread. Guess they are pissed off about that
Stop with the same narrative!! Both should be sacked
Agree, just pointing out that we will have a worse season than we had with rangnick.
Whatever happened to The Glaziers, perfect bile conductors!
