Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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Nagelsmann and Amorim literally sitting by their phones waiting for Liverpool to call.

But nah some would have us waste another season with the fraud who sets his team up to concede 31 shots against a dismal Brentford side
 
Losing can be excused. Not being able to coach your players the basics of defending, attacking and everything in between after several years at the helm and hundreds of millions spent is not.

He has to go. If we still serve up these disastrous performances where the players obviously don’t know what to do years into his rein, it means there’s something fundamentally wrong with his coaching.
 
So so bad, gotta laugh to keep me from crying :lol:
This was beyond unprofessional, I would sack EtH for this performance alone. We had absolutely no clue on how to deal with Brentford’s direct play. Pressing was non existent, midfield as always out of shape, frantic last ditch defending and poor finishing saved us a battering.
EtH’s stubbornness is infuriating.
 
lsd said:
I mean I was delighted when we scored but when they equalised I just had to go yeah that's justice that's the least Brentford deserved.

Luckily we didn't play the second period of extra time and just played the first
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Of course, we were shite.
 
First few games of the season, we were overreacting. The signs have been there from the start. We the fans have invented excuse after excuse. The reality is we are dross and ETH is as culpable as anyone
 
As an overall performance, that might have been worse than the 7-0.

It never took more than 2-3 easy passes under little pressure to get into our box. On the rare occasions we actually had the ball in their half, they could literally just punt it ANYWHERE into our half of the pitch and they have a 2v2 counter situation. If they could finish, they'd have scored double figures.

And of course, it wasn't even that much worse than the shite we've been seeing most weeks.
 
KjaAnd said:
Losing can be excused. Not being able to coach your players the basics of defending, attacking and everything in between after several years at the helm and hundreds of millions spent is not.

He has to go. If we still serve up these disastrous performances where the players obviously don’t know what to do years into his rein, it means there’s something fundamentally wrong with his coaching.
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I agree with what you’re saying but you’re going on like he’s been here for 5 years. He’s not even completed 2 seasons yet :lol:
 
We almost robbed them blind.

Funnily enough the data actually shows we should be swapping places with Chelsea.
 
There's nothing there. Even if we can't appoint first choice until after summer, get someone in the interim to fire a bit of life into us as we finish this season.
 
I still think he’s a great coach. What we saw at Ajax was everything we wanted, he ticked every box.

Yet currently we’re playing like a bunch of individuals that met for the first time in the tunnel.
 
The Liverpool game bought him one last bit of time, but in the cold hard light of day we're back remembering that we're stuck in 6th and won't catch the likes of Villa and Tottenham.

It was a hard rule of miss 4th and you're out in the last few years. To be missing 5th and still not get an itchy trigger figure is not good.

Still plenty of games to slip up in to come too.
 
KjaAnd said:
Losing can be excused. Not being able to coach your players the basics of defending, attacking and everything in between after several years at the helm and hundreds of millions spent is not.

He has to go. If we still serve up these disastrous performances where the players obviously don’t know what to do years into his rein, it means there’s something fundamentally wrong with his coaching.
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Several?
 
Regardless of what happens this season I don’t think he goes. Can we really afford 2 lots of competition? He’s out of contract at the end of next season anyway so assess over the next 6 months and then make a decision. With inspiring replacements like Southgate and O’Neill mooted I’d rather stick for the timebeing and hope we can get some consistency of selection, as more than anything this is what ETH needs - his core group to be available and not sat on the treatment table like they’ve been for the majority of the season
 
2 man midfield said:
I still think he’s a great coach. What we saw at Ajax was everything we wanted, he ticked every box.

Yet currently we’re playing like a bunch of individuals that met for the first time in the tunnel.
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Great coaches can do more than just win at Ajax.
 
He took the whole United way and transitional football too far. Now we just spend much of the game trying to force play, losing the ball and conceding shots
 
I have lost patience with him now. His game management is awful.

As long as we don’t end up with that waistcoat wearing, Ready Salted crisps eating, bangers and mash, missionary love making, 4-4-2 playing, national anthem listening, well done steak eating, Earl Grey tea drinking, Eastenders watching, Saturday night takeaway, Werther’s Original sucking cornflake tart then I’ll be happy.
 
I used to think it didn't matter if a manager didn't have personality, it's about what his team does on the pitch.

But I think that's bullshit now. You put a charisma black hole on the sideline, that's what's gonna be produced on the pitch. Same with Southgate and England.
 
2 man midfield said:
I still think he’s a great coach. What we saw at Ajax was everything we wanted, he ticked every box.

Yet currently we’re playing like a bunch of individuals that met for the first time in the tunnel.
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The entire United experience is a bit too much for him, even with half his Ajax side now playing for him at United.
 
We got put to the sword by a team who lost 14 of their last 18 games whilst playing a suicidal style of play, which we've seen all season. Clear as day he isn't the right man for the job now, we just have to hope the alternative isn't Southgate.
 
I don't understand him. He goes into Carrington every day and, despite all evidence to the contrary, thinks what he's got United on the right track. Any sensible manager would look at a team conceding 20+ shots a match and do something to change the tactics, but he just keeps plowing straight ahead without a thought of changing.
 
I'd definitely take a massive gamble on Potter next season over continuing with this travesty.
 
simonhch said:
A team has to be good at something. Whether it’s dominating possession, pressing relentlessly, transitioning seamlessly, defending like stalwarts. Great teams are good at more than one thing. We aren’t good at anything. We are okay, at a few things, but bring nothing exceptional to the table in any department. With the amount of money, talent and time that has been supplied to the coach, that is just unacceptable.
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Pretty much where I'm at having watched this season. The injuries have certainly been bad and had a huge affect on results. But we can't defend with any structure and we're shit going forward. The team just doesn't look coached, we look as bad or worse than we did under Ole and Ralf in 21/22.

We continue give the opposition 20-30 shots at our goal every game. The fact the manager is either oblivious to this, doesn’t care, or doesn't know how to stop it happening is both alarming and maddening.
 
2 man midfield said:
I still think he’s a great coach. What we saw at Ajax was everything we wanted, he ticked every box.

Yet currently we’re playing like a bunch of individuals that met for the first time in the tunnel.
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He was never a great coach. He looked promising at Ajax at most and I thought so too. Turns out this is too big for him
 
Sir Matt said:
I don't understand him. He goes into Carrington every day and, despite all evidence to the contrary, thinks what he's got United on the right track. Any sensible manager would look at a team conceding 20+ shots a match and do something to change the tactics, but he just keeps plowing straight ahead without a thought of changing.
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He has all the arrogance of LVG with none of the tactical acumen.
 
2 man midfield said:
I still think he’s a great coach. What we saw at Ajax was everything we wanted, he ticked every box.

Yet currently we’re playing like a bunch of individuals that met for the first time in the tunnel.
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Could that just be the ajax environment, style. They are a winning club with a style of play. We are a banter club for 10plus yrs. No style, is erik the man to turn a club and team around. I don't think so
 
Felt like he knows it’s coming to an end tonight. Players just weren’t arsed and there was no gameplan (as per), or the players had no interest in carrying it out, if there was one. All the noise over the international break has got to him and the players, I think. They know he hasn’t done enough. That’s also top 4/5 done now, you’d say, so there is a very good chance this is the last 8 weeks for ETH. That performance, like most this season, was woeful. In fact, that was our worst performance of the season and that’s saying something.
 
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