As I said, after EtH it won’t but they can’t rock up and change an already legally binding contract.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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As I said, after EtH it won’t but they can’t rock up and change an already legally binding contract.
This actually the stupidest thing I've ever read on this site and I've been reading the caf for about 15 years now.
Yesterday was some low moment even in ETH standards..
More shot on targets on us than our ball possession
you can't make this shit up
More shot on targets on us than our ball possession
you can't make this shit upBeen the same for me. A lot of people swept it under the carpet as means of coping and denial, but I just can't. It was a nightmare, and I was shocked to see so many trying to brush it away like it's nothing. The scum humiliated us in the worst way. One of the absolute lowest points in my years of supporting this club. That, and his later admission that he is going for a counterattacking style eroded my belief in him significantly.
I have absolutely no faith in this manager. Needs to go as soon as possible.
The mad part is no one is surprised at this. We have so little goal threat and play a very open style.
Right, these two here are both numbers and one is bigger than the other so obviously I can compare them.ETH: ''Hold my beer''.
It plays and has the capacity of a top 8 side, but was assembled on a league champions budget. The mental acrobatics some of you do to justify keeping a failing manager in his job is astounding.
what the feck is this.
Glad someone said it. Felt very uncomfortable reading it.
Also had a lot of players available in that season. Your obsession with the Ole comparisons are a touch embarrassing now.
It wasn't a much worse team though.
Okay, here's some perspective. We played against City here much the same way we played against them in 19/20, when, like now, we were a team languishing below the top 4 line. Dropped deep, packed the box, went all-out on counters. Because that was the only way we had any chance of beating them. The reason why that was the only way we had any chance of beating them was that they were a much, much better team than us in nearly all facets of the game, but we were very good at counters which was also where they were most vulnerable. Unlike now, we beat them in one of those two games.
The next season, we did not actually play that way against them, and not against any of the other top teams either. We were actually capable of contesting the initiative. Not that it gave us much joy, we mostly drew against top opponents and got fewer points off them than the year before. But that could be seen as progress of sorts. The year after that (Ole/Rangnick) it went completely to bits, and last year it was like two different realities home and away. This season, it's as desperately defensive as it was back in the pre-Bruno part of 19/20, and results-wise worse than ever, with two multi-goal losses.
Does this seem like progress? I agree it's not a surprise, and well reflects what results and performances in general indicate, but what perspective shows us here is that we are not moving in the right direction, and that we are as weak as we have ever been in recent years.
True, in ETH’s defence he’s bought worse players than LVG did.
I am not convinced by him at all but criticizing him for yesterday is stupid. He did the only intelligent thing with the players available and it nearly worked. If Rashford had reacted better he would have had 2 clear cut chances early and then we might have won the game. Once City got their groove we had no chance to do anything.
It was a plan for sure. Spurs played City in the cup and went toe to toe, Ange and his team werent afraid. Sure we couldnt really do that with our defense. But as a plan goes it was the most basic and we had no way of getting a foothold in the game. His subs as ever are woeful, he keep Anand in the window only to let him rot on the bench. Amrabat, who he chased all summer, just awful. His interviews are embarrassing for the club at this point
So how do we explain the fact that Bournemouth were able to play much more bravely and cause way more problems for City?
I never compared them. I’m just asking the poster who said that finishing bottom of our CL group was a sackable offence on its own, if he’d extend that same logic to Sir Alex who did so twice with a much better side. Or do you look at the context (transition and injuries) and allow them to see the job through?
Indeed, some of the posts on here. Park 11 players and its a masterclass??? really? We had lots of experienced defenders, for once a more defensive midfield and we sat incredibly deep. Get some perspective. What is the club reduced to when we play like that and then people find it amazing. This is not Manchester United. Its pathetic, scared tactics
We had 2 shots all game and got dominated in every conceivable metric. It didn't nearly work, nor is it stupid to criticise him since he's responsible for how crap we are
And here it is; these are the metrics we judge our previous managers by, because the club has been so starved of actual success.
Its really embarrassing how low expectations for the club now are. And how many excuses are made
You wouldn’t even see Unai Emery set up that defensively against City. He’s good at saying the principles never change but it’s a different story when he doesn’t have the guts to follow that up consistently. We played counter attacking football under Ole too but this is a different level of hopelessness when the players can’t even break well when they see the ball. Ole was doing it with McFred and Lingard in midfield and Ten Hag can barely get to that level with Casemiro, Mainoo and Bruno.
I’ve said it before but this isn’t a manager that’s even on the level of Moyes or Dyche let alone Pep and Klopp.
Not sure calling something a disaster is a ringing endorsement.
Your obsession with making excuses on the other hand is embarrassing.
Even with full teams he tends to get schooled by the top 6 sides. its just embarrassing now and humiliating for the club. His signings are generally awful,, Onana did well yesterday but Antony still gets on the pitch, he immediately twice lost possession. Just what is Amrabat for? He also signed Casimero whose legs were already gone
His subs this season in general have been awful but that was something indeed. Also bringing on Kambwala a 19 year old centre back for Evans and then moving the entire defence around to play him at right back.
I think this is becoming the only answer. He really isnt good enough, I've felt this since start of season. Our players are better than what we see.
Weed/cannabis is as we know freely available in Holland and I dare say Manchester.
Just how much is our Eric taking?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68464282
Just how much is our Eric taking?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68464282
In no means, I'm I defending some of his tactics with the two 10s.
But I don't think he works on the price we pay for a player. It's like if someone said to you - today do you want to drive a Ferrari or Peugeot to work today, he just wants to win football matches.
As for the tactics vs City, once the second goal went in EtH just opened the game out. I watched the Chealsa game, Jackson is a better centre forward than Rashford is, Haaland was three games into his return and was pretty crap that match.
Sounds like I'm making excuses, I'm not. Just don't like it when people compare things that are not alike.
So a lot of our fans are bastards, hmm well I’m not one of those but I have been called one and far worse.
I do know that a lot of our players are lazy useless “bastards”.
Pep won rock paper scissors 10 times out of 11 before the game against ETH. These statistics are unacceptable. What are INEOs waiting for?
Yes, because Moyes and Dyche together have won more trophies that EtH?
For Armageddon
Like somebody else said yesterday, he's gaslighting the fans with the stuff he comes out with. Not sure who he's trying to kid? INEOS?
I was just thinking that, fans seem to forget that SAF used this tactic even after years building a squad.
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