Inclined to agree with this. Ole did not have the power as a manager to go against the club. A bigger name manager might have told them where to stick Ronaldo.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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It isn't about the strike rate, it is about the work off the ball. Does Haller press. If Ronaldo just wants to stand about up front, that will not suit ETH, he has to be involved in other aspects of the game.
I'm hoping its the we get closer to Man city over time, there's no reason why we can't
It seems like eth does not yet have the aura to have the pull with players like I think us fans naively thought he would.
Even when mourinho joined us and we couldn't offer champions league football we had players still wanting to come play for him but I'm not getting that at all from ten hag who is settling for Dutch league players and fdj who has shown no desire to come to united and play back under ten hag, as well as so many of our big names wanting away from the club and not interested in his project, I don't think we would have seen this problem if we had hired conte.
Even when mourinho joined us and we couldn't offer champions league football we had players still wanting to come play for him but I'm not getting that at all from ten hag who is settling for Dutch league players and fdj who has shown no desire to come to united and play back under ten hag, as well as so many of our big names wanting away from the club and not interested in his project, I don't think we would have seen this problem if we had hired conte.
You guys need to relook at the CF role and how Haller played for Ajax. CF is not someone who presses, but one who is capable of holding up play, finding good positions to receive the final ball and obviously a good finisher with the feet and head. Thats how Haller played at Ajax.
Pressing is not strongly required for a CF. Its the wingers and midfielders that need to do this more as they cover more spaces. If the formation is using 3 forwards, pressing is necessary as the 3 forwards cover the entire attacking half of the pitch.
Doesn't matter. Ronaldo can't hold the ball up either. The only thing he can do is poach, and he is only going to get worse at that as well.
I did see at least ten Ajax matches last season and saying the CF is not someone who presses is just wrong. The CF is the one that who leads the press, he decides when to press, were to press. He is the key to were team are going press the opposition to play the ball. If they are pressing them to play the ball to the right side or the left side, or into a more centrally trap. Also if you look at the other top teams around Europe most of them has a CF that leads the press, except PSG.
City are better at controlling matches in the EPL than Ajax ever managed under Ten Hag in the Eredivisie.
Ronaldo is basically a poacher these days, haller is better at holding the ball up etc
He's far more knowledgeable about the game than Phelan. I have absolutely no doubt Ten Hag wanted him for his input tactically and about players. Which I think is a good thing, our assistant manager is a better coach than our previous 2 managers. That can only be a positive.
Don't get me wrong Rashford but no one cares what you players think.
That's very not true. Pressing is a collaborative effort. Striker covers angles and pressures both the keeper and the defenders, Haller did it too. You can check their (Haller and Ronaldo) stats too to see the difference.
That’s not how reel mowers work but ok.
One walks around showung no effort.nor interest. The other is our top goal scorer
Please explain to me ETH's technical style and how Ronaldo doesn't fit into that. Thanks.
I think its probably a good idea that we spend the first window getting players the manager knows to help implement his style as quickly as possible, whilst also helping make sure the dressing room becomes his own. If this was a pattern next year, then its probably a worthwhile concern.
Agreed. Short-term (and given we're basically ripping up the main scouting network), no issue at all for me.
I don't think most fans thought many people thought ETH had the same pull as the likes of Pep/Klopp/Jose etc. It's also worth noting that the club is at its lowest ebb in modern history.
Conte would leave us in the similar situation that Jose left us in. Its time for a new start and a patient rebuild. It's about developing and improving players alongside creating a style that's worth being patient for.
We had players whose agents were good at soft soaping Ed Woodward. I doubt Jose had anything to do with it.
I’m yet to be wholly convinced by the new lot, but at least they appear to be trying to act in a professional and football-focused manner.
Not only that, I remember hearing an interview with one of the Dutch journalists around the time we were finalizing EtH, and he said specifically that EtH would want a British assistant, someone who knows the league, the culture of English football, and what is expected. McClaren is that guy. Which rather makes a mockery of what @Number TwentyFive posted above.
I think it'll be hugely helpful. Minimising his role to putting out cones just sounded strange to me.
Also someone earlier said he is a fossil. He's 5 years older than Klopp.
All very harsh.
Cf is the first to press. Making sure there is pressure on the gk, to make him make a mistake and give a big haul forward .
I am not saying that they dont press, i am saying that it is strongly not required. Ronaldo does press the defenders and GK but he cant do it game in, game out. But even then, it is not a big problem for ETH as he can use the wingers and midfielders to provide more pressure. A CF's key need is to be the main finisher, so ETH will use Ronaldo in that manner.
Ronaldo is statistically the least pressing forward in the top leagues and pressing is strongly required in Ten Hag and other modern managers' tactics
MacLaren has a very respectable career as a football manager, English stint aside (tbf, that job was cursed). He's achieved far more in his managerial career than Ole. And the latter was managing us last season!
He's the perfect assistant to ten Hag. Knows him personally, work with him to won a league title in Holland, while also serves as a link to the United golden era.
It's always amazing how few fans are cocksure about the roles and quality of staff when no one attends the training session or have a clue about the trainings.
At least players, we see every week on the pitch. Managers are judged by play style and results. There is nothing to judge coaching staff but for some reason few think they know everything.
I'm worried that Ronaldo officially wants to leave because he has realized there won't be any decent incoming transfers this season. Will this year mainly be to reset and start a progress, and then add missing players next year?
Surely there is better coaches than Steve McClaren?
I think he's past his best and had his day or maybe I'm being harsh, he might be a brilliant number 2 whereas his day as number 1 are long gone. Only time will tell.
I think he's past his best and had his day or maybe I'm being harsh, he might be a brilliant number 2 whereas his day as number 1 are long gone. Only time will tell.
Van Der Gaag is the number two.
If ETH thinks McClaren will be useful then we should trust him on that. He should know a decent coach when he sees one
Makes a mockery of my comments how? Even if he brings in McClaren who knows English football, it only means that he has an assistant who knows English football and can give him advice. ETH still hasnt experienced the Premier League and doesn't know it. ETH clearly said when he met the press that after listening to people then he "would draw his own lines". So no matter how much McClaren knows English football and can give advice ETH would still need to listen. So when ETH has drawn his own line and decided that Martinez is the central defender he brings in, he clearly still haven't clued himself up on what the Premier League it's physical play is about.
Maybe, but he has tons of experience and I believe can give very valuable input to the manager. Therefore, I am happy he is on board
More the fact he's realised he might actually have to run during games now, and won't be able to stand at the half way line waving his arms around and pulling funny faces.
How can he keep his prestine hair if he starts to sweat?
Eriks honeymoon lasted a week at United....the in-fighting and leaks have begun earlier than I thought.
What in fighting?
The leaks are against Ronaldo not ETH. We all know he’ll want him gone - he isn’t an idiot.
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