Here's another dose of reality for you.
We've played 17 games and lost 9. Now, is that realistic enough or do I add in the goal difference?
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We've played 17 games and lost 9. Now, is that realistic enough or do I add in the goal difference?
We were 7th, he was sacked after 5 defeats.
ETH had us down at 12-13th, and now at 8th, also with 5 defeats.
The fallacy in your argument is you are importing said hypothetical tactician in for just this game alone without the said tactician having the weight and burden of
Numerous injuries
Howlers from experienced players he should be relying on
Ref and VAR seeming to have something against you personally
And most importantly, a crisis of lack of confidence
You guys are just addressing symptoms and shadows instead of treating the disease and looking at things holistically
Cheers to you o ye rational fan
We've been a laughing stock for years.
We ain’t losing to Luton that’s for sure
Moyes had charisma?
he was so far out of his depth, he was dead before he started.
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I'm scratching my head and wondering the same
You're embarrassing yourself (although that doesn't seem to phase you, as you keep doing it time and time again).
OGS was a clown but we barely improved after he was sacked and still finished 6th and our fans were more than displeased.
Arteta finished 8th twice and then proceeded to bottle 4th to Spuds. If we allow this kind of nonsense at our club, we deserve to keep getting bantered, as delusional takes like yours blind the fanbase to how much of a shit show we're seeing develop in real time.
But hey ho, at least you might get your wish and we finish mid-table this season, so we're truly set on the path of finishing 5th in two years' time
Two bottles of your fave beer mate!
Saying this on the night where the striker he bought scored two goals is just..
Notwithstanding the fact that Kane could just be another Casemiro signing you lot will be begging to leave the club in just a season
Or the more realistic option of Kane not improving us much in the circumstances we find ourself especially today where the problem wasn't in scoring goals but defending them
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You could almost say that our manager should have set us differently, right "bro"?
Varane seems to want out almost as much as Sancho. With the rest I think it's somewhere between 'they don't care' and 'mere lack of confidence. I think there are a number who would like to think they're still committed to him and working for him, but unconsciously register the fact that they're not being held accountable. They don't have to stay switched on, because the manager isn't going to be ruthless enough, whilst they can point to, say, decent running stats or attempts to do other things the manager has asked them to do in order to claim they're team players. These are players who need to be completely focused and straining every sinew because they're not naturally good enough to coast at 80%, particularly since they're not in a side that can carry them (since at least 40% of the players at any time are in a similar situation)... but they allow themselves to tune out anyway because what are the consequences. The manager makes excuses for his set-up and for the players, a significant sub-set of fans cover for the manager by heaping everything at either insufficient quality or a terrible board (both of those are true as far as they go, but don't tell the whole story - managers have got more consistently fluent football and results out of 'weaker' players).
Dalot is one example - another is Scott, who failed to transition the ball properly on about 5 occasions when he found himself in a bit of space having been picked out with a decent ball from out of defence. Amrabat arguably is another in terms of not moving the ball quickly enough and allowing himself to be crowded out and turned over too often. But this is a manager who will continue to play them even though he has youth players with excellent technical abilities and dynamism knocking at his door.
In my opinion (similar to a good number of other posters here), the sooner we realize that ETH is at most a B/B+ grade manager who's thrived in more conducive environments with established set-ups and got to 3rd through a combination of the last juices of Casemiro's top-class career and a well-managed Rashford purple streak (which he has every 2 or 3 seasons) along with other sides being in transition - a manager who needs to be managed properly from have in terms of squad development (as well as playing a more minor role in recruitment), or moved on - the better.
That's one area in which I will also criticize him
He has every reason to rage at the officials but he's just being a softie, feck that shii
No. I meant we are not playing as a top team as of this moment
Same as we were not a top team as of the two home defeats at the beginning of last season but after the Liverpool win, we all know how the season went
Fergie lost to Pep the two times they met and he lost 6-1 to a City team sans Pep
Imagine the two combined, can you tell me the frequency of loss Fergie will receive from current Pep based on the above please?
I’ve not topped up my ignore list in a while and tonight has really helped highlight the thickest of the thick cnuts on the forum, so in that sense I’m grateful.
My God! You ended them all with cold undiluted facts.. using their own god (Fergie) at the same time, brilliant!
I wish we could pin this your post to every new page from now on till this hullabaloo blows over for reals
I hope he sticks with todays attack next game.
You know there's specific places (hotels) for this activity you're performing in a public space? We don't all need to see it.
Another post to be pinned. Just beautiful
That's nonsensical, if being a top team is periodic to how a team performs throughout parts of a season then there's a glaring issue that your sentiment doesn't cover for which is consistency. United finished 3rd last season, invested on top of that milestone and despite injuries haven't been able to rejuvenate good performances which is compounding the poor results.
If a team is a top team when it suits, than you can't hold the players or manager under any accountability, the agents of the players and manager can impose a pendulum effect theory into their contracts absolving them of any reasonable review. Ridiculous.
Exactly.. the problem we have is that of the mind and that is not so easy to fix even after 18months
He needs more time, I swear he does
0-3 vs City
0-3 vs Newcastle
1-0 vs Fulham
3-4 vs Copenhagen
how much goodwill did the injury time escape vs Fulham buy?
0-3 vs Newcastle
1-0 vs Fulham
3-4 vs Copenhagen
how much goodwill did the injury time escape vs Fulham buy?
I don't pray but if I did then it would be to thank God you are far away from the helms of my club's affairs
More time and another £400m so we can lose 5 games out of 6 in the Europa league group stage in a couple years.
We were really good before the red. Probably the most control we've had over a game all season. Can't blame Ten Hag for tonight imo.
Compare ETH's first 18 months to Fergie'e first 18 months if you want to actually be fair
Who would you keep and who would you sack?
Will you still say that if he’s lost 15 or 16 matches before Xmas ?
Compare my posts to yours, even you would pray to have my level of comprehension and articulation
At least Fergie was making changes behind the scenes and creating a new culture. Ten Hag is torpedoing our season with his stubborn refusal to change his shite tactics
Yeah, just beautiful. You do realise we were playing FC Copenhagen don't you. Their entire Market value is worth less than what we usually pay for one player. We spent 200m on players this summer, they spent 20m. We were leading 2-0 when we went a man down, yet managed to lose 4-3. Beautiful.
And see what he ended up doing at the end
And here come the Scouser allegations for not moaning like you lot
Your posts lack objectivity but they are hilariously deluded. I think the optimism is admirable to some degree but you have to weigh up both sides of things even with your level of buoyancy.
Are you from the same planet as majority of our fans? I think not!
VAR and red card aside, United should've been able to hold on to the lead after Bruno converted his penalty. We're sorely lacking in organization and composure in all areas of the field.
To add insult to injury, Compahagen weren't that good. We simply gifted them three points and there's no excuse. Ten Hag has to take the barage of just criticism coming his way on the chin and look forward. The Luton game could be a watershed momentt
To add insult to injury, Compahagen weren't that good. We simply gifted them three points and there's no excuse. Ten Hag has to take the barage of just criticism coming his way on the chin and look forward. The Luton game could be a watershed momentt
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