He needs to speak openly now and be honest about what’s going on this season and how he might be able to improve things. It’s not his style but it’s time. Otherwise he’ll be gone
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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There is no way back from here. However this club isn't even competent enough to sack a badly preforming manager so we will stagger on from one embarrassment to another until CL qualification is mathematically impossible. That's all the Glazers care about. I hope it gets even worse to be honest. We literally have to hit rock bottom before anything meaningful will change.
He won't go after today. Its bitter right now but its the league Cup after all. If we get a drubbing on the weekend then he could be sacked. No obvious ready made replacements on the horizon, that's a huge problem.
At the end of the reigns of the previous manager I always felt that we had hit rock bottom. Now I genuinely believe the worst is yet to come.
Sadly the only thing saving him right now is there's no point Richard Arnold sacking him when he knows he is likely getting the boot himself
ETH trained Antony for 2 years than asked for him specifically, even at the abomination price of 100m euros. Regardless of previous dealings, that alone is sackable offence, Antony is a 15m euros player at best.
I am officially worried we might get relegated (not srs). We are that pathetic. Mind you, that might not be a bad thing for the club. At least the Glazers would be gone.
Look at what Howe is getting out of Lascelles, Schar, Almeron, Joelinton, Murphy, Willock. All players signed by previous managers and who Newcastle fans thought were shite. They you have the local lads like Longstaf. Brilliant job.
This isn't football manager. We only need a new coach to steady the ship until the takeover is over.
Sacking ETH won’t solve anything.
We don’t have the right sort of players to turn this around.
Whoever comes in will struggle with this squad.
We don’t have the right sort of players to turn this around.
Whoever comes in will struggle with this squad.
Sack him.. sack all 1st team players .. maybe keep a few..
Else what's the use ? Will it not be like Ragnicks season ?
Else what's the use ? Will it not be like Ragnicks season ?
Yup. Sadly can't be that simple at this club. Our fans need a dad as well as coach for the team.
It’s not all hindering on these magical press resistant players
the blue print is there for all to see
Sign strong defenders, make yourself hard to beat
The prem is a fast physical league, you need quick physical midfielders.
Bring in wingers who get to the byline and want to create chances
he don’t have any of those things
73% apparently.
United find it impossible to score and impossible to not concede...what a wonderful combination.
Such joy to behold.
Such joy to behold.
Donny wasn't his, to be fair, but, yeah, something doesn't add up with those quotes.
One thing that staggers me is the insistent on that midfield set up. The one sitting and two miles ahead. The man marking etc. why won’t he do something different at least ?
Think it's more a finances thing. They would have to pay him off, then pay another manager. This is all supposed to be Jim's problem now anyway
Roy Keane is an interesting shout. It would certainly separate the strong from the weak minded.
Like he did when he said he can't produce good football with these players?
That's always good for boosting the teams morale isn't it?
I thought he was a manager that goes into very fine details and wants everything to perfection. Steve McClaren was praising him when they first joined. Seen nothing special so far
I don't know what he is even trying to do. You would think that because we are a leaky sieve that he would play both amarbat and caseimro together to anchor that midfield but he just refuses to do that. Mental.
No one who is sane with at least more than a single operating braincell can believe that Rangnick wouldn't have had a better vision of where to spend that 400m. Hell, I'd put money on him making us better with half of that budget when you take ito account the players we would have moved on. I'm sure if we actually listened to him Rashford/Bruno would be on their way out, along with most of the players from that season. He wasn't wrong. We needed an open heart surgery.
Guys, think about what happens next after two 3-0 defeats at OT.
No accountability from top to bottom. It will be a bubble of manager and players going down a rut, and it will go on and on until out of CL and mathematically out of the Top 4.
CEO and everyone down do not care as they will lose their jobs anyway with Sir Jim coming in.
It would take another two year/four transfer windows before you see any change in quality of players.
No accountability from top to bottom. It will be a bubble of manager and players going down a rut, and it will go on and on until out of CL and mathematically out of the Top 4.
CEO and everyone down do not care as they will lose their jobs anyway with Sir Jim coming in.
It would take another two year/four transfer windows before you see any change in quality of players.
We didn't.
Because all it took last season was a couple of injuries and we were right back to the 21/22 form. That was a warning sign along with the general lack of goals.
The point of no return has been reached for him. He’s not going to turn this around. I highly doubt he will get the sack before Christmas but I don’t see the point in dragging this out any longer.
It will. We had a new manager bounce every time we sacked the manager post Moyes.
We’re in relegation form with 8 defeats in 15 games, last time we started a season like that we were relegated in 1973. You don’t just sit there and watch it happen. You react. You sack the manager and get in a caretaker.
Who bloody cares...the list of players that needs binning is getting longer and longer with every passing week.
Same system as my old Sunday League team.
And just like Rashford, win or lose, we're on the booze!
It's getting harder to feel positive about Ten Hag's management. I know there are still players in the first team that are quick to down tools but I expected him to come in and sort those players out and bring a defined style of play. I would say that the influence of Martinez and his drive and passing from defence is being sorely missed but his other signings have made little difference. This isn't to say that I think Hojland won't come good, but there's not enough value from Antony and Mount is just baffling. Onana had a decent showing last time out, but mostly I expect every shot on target with any pace on it to go in right now and its a shock when he saves them.
There is also the same kind of disconnect between what the manager says and what we just saw on the pitch coming from Ten Hag lately. We watched the game, no matter how much you tell us we were unlucky or about the positives you can't fool us. I know it's not clever for the manager to slam the players after every game, but at least stop short of the emperors new clothes rubbish.
There is also the same kind of disconnect between what the manager says and what we just saw on the pitch coming from Ten Hag lately. We watched the game, no matter how much you tell us we were unlucky or about the positives you can't fool us. I know it's not clever for the manager to slam the players after every game, but at least stop short of the emperors new clothes rubbish.
I absolutely agree, of course we will get flamed for this opinion, getting rid of ETH will solve nothing. What we need is to afford to bin the dross regardless and take the hit. Under these vile houses that will ever happen. They will bring in another manage hubs Jim 150 million get top 4 rinse and repeat. I wish they would just feck off ant take their money the greedy parasitic wankers.
He was carried by Bruno, Rashford and Casemiro last season it seems. Their form has fallen off a cliff and we’re a fecking shambles because of it.
Relegation is probably in truth the only way we move forward
He probably wanted Kane and Rice but got Mount and Hojlund, glazernomics will always be a thing as long as they remain here running the club with the handbrake on, at this point I'd take a 0-3 loss every week if it helps speed up their exit, they are the real problem in all of this, not the manager.
What takeover?
That being said, we genuinely played better football and had better results under Rangnick than anything we've seen this season, and that's with half the squad absolutely refusing to play for him. He was a terrible coach, but then what does that say about our current predicament?
His football idea is irrelevant if the players don't perform
Feck sake. I spent all day arguing we shouldn’t keep sacking managers but I m so fecking annoyed with this team. Apart from the odd bright spark we look absolutely shit. How can we be so bad?
By tomorrow I’ll calm down but if he resigned now I’d say yeah Erik, feck off.
By tomorrow I’ll calm down but if he resigned now I’d say yeah Erik, feck off.
Howe is the one that looks like he was doing some actual coaching. ETH looks like a clown compared to him.
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