Eric Bailly

He needs a commanding leader next to him and he would be very content in his performances. He looked good under Ole for a game or two then got suspended, injured and eventually the permanent bench. Still I'd be sick if Jones is still at the club and we sell Bailly that would be a disgrace
 
kouroux said:
You're right, at the end of the day it's about what a player prioritizes. Many of our players are comfortable earning good wages while not playing much every season.
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This is a problem when you think about it. It can't help the culture within the playing staff. I think the club needs to get these guys out the door even if it means taking a financial hit.
 
passing-wind said:
He needs a commanding leader next to him and he would be very content in his performances. He looked good under Ole for a game or two then got suspended, injured and eventually the permanent bench. Still I'd be sick if Jones is still at the club and we sell Bailly that would be a disgrace
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Jones will play decent 7 games out of 10. Bailly is a complete liabaility. One is more useful to us that the other. It's not Eric
 
SteveW said:
This is a problem when you think about it. It can't help the culture within the playing staff. I think the club needs to get these guys out the door even if it means taking a financial hit.
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It's a big problem when the players in question are young enough to be starting elsewhere. If an old timer does that, it makes more sense.
 
kouroux said:
It's a big problem when the players in question are young enough to be starting elsewhere. If an old timer does that, it makes more sense.
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Definitely. I think every player in a squad needs to have something to prove. The ones who don't weaken the collective. I'm hopeful that this is the summer we finally get rid of some of these lads. Ole keeps taking about having the right sort of characters. I'd like to think the club will finally listen.
 
Ever since some poster here mentioned that he seems to get shorter as he jumps, I’ve never felt the same about him since.
 
passing-wind said:
He needs a commanding leader next to him and he would be very content in his performances. He looked good under Ole for a game or two then got suspended, injured and eventually the permanent bench. Still I'd be sick if Jones is still at the club and we sell Bailly that would be a disgrace
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Another one of those players who needs a better player alongside them to make them look good!!

He didn’t look good under OGS. At least Jones has put some decent performances down the years, Bailly looks like a rabbit in the headlights, he’s 25 he’s not a youngester.

Jones isint good enough, but he’s a hell of a lot better than Bailly and Rojo. These two should be straight out the door, so prepared to be sick.
 
VorZakone said:
Where'd it go wrong? He looked pretty decent in 16/17 and we were all confident he'd be a mainstay for 7+ years.
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He looked excellent early on - he had pace, physicality, appeared to be a very strong tackler and he was quite decent on the ball too. His reading of the game looked slightly inconsistent and his heading wasn't terrific but at the age of 23(?), we felt we had a gem on your hands and that the weak areas would improve over time.

Instead, those weaknesses particularly the position, awareness etc have just completely deteriorated/been exposed since and we're now left with a strong tackler who relied almost entirely on hisbphtsifalt attributes.

It's a shame. He could have improved his defensive game and plugged the holes but he's clearly been completely unable to and instead regressed since he joined us. Suffice to say that whether it's Mourinho or Ole, neither manager has been able to have any faith in Bailly.
 
He got a nasty head injury during national team break, and now people are moaning about him not being good enough since he hasnt played since then.

Fact, Bailly will be our starting CB next season alongside Lindelof
 
Am i the only one that hope's we don't sign bang average koulibaly a few good games in serie a shown up against arsenal overated and overhyped by modern day money men 150 million i'd laugh at that one if i was woodward is he really that much of a step up from bailly
 
Allas8 said:
He got a nasty head injury during national team break, and now people are moaning about him not being good enough since he hasnt played since then.

Fact, Bailly will be our starting CB next season alongside Lindelof
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Was this head injury 2.5 years ago?

Love it when people state facts, that aren’t facts. Your opinion is that he will be a starter next year. God help us if you’re right! He may be at the club because we can’t find anyone to buy him, but highly unlikely he will be anywhere near the first team. I imagine we will buy at least one new CB that will go stratinght into the starting 11.
 
I'm sure the club have considered many options, but I really want to hear that Rio is coming in to coach our CBs

The guy is so passionate about united- as seen by the footage of him going mental when we scor3d the 3rd goal in Paris

He also is the calmest CB we have had.

Surely he can help players like Eric improve.
 
SteveW said:
I'm curious about Sanchez. He strikes me as the type that will move for playing time.
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I have no doubt Sanchez would be willing to take a decent pay cut for playing time. The problem is that 'decent' may not be enough. He may likely have to take an absolutely massive pay cut to move to another team. At this stage I doubt anybody would even offer him a third what he makes here, maybe not even a quarter.

I'm guessing that if we do want to sell him we'll have to subsidise his wage quite heavily.
 
His biggest issue is being injury prone. His stand out asset was his athleticism and when you find out he’s basically as tough as glass and he starts realising how vulnerable he is - that aura of confidence he had diminished and he’s never been the same player since. The brain farts he make is a lack of confidence mixed with laziness - he seems to lack the same hunger he had when he first joined almost as if the injuries have ruined his passion for the game. He was a hard man defender in the making but can’t stay fit for more than two games in a row.

In order to iron out his kinks he needed to play non stop football as a starter and mature but the stop and start nature of his career has meant he’s regressed.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
He was crap long before that. I don’t understand your point. He’s a walking disaster, it’s not like his poor form is recent is it!
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United don't develop players then throw them aside, his only 25 years old and the fact that he started against PSG should show how high Solskjaer rates him. He got the correct mold as a CB, and as a reminder, Rio Ferdinand didn't start looking like a world class defender until he turned 25 either
 
I would look to get rid of Bailly.
The guy is made of glass. Has potential, skill, athleticism & charisma but unfortunately his body breaks down way too quickly, even for football
We need someone like him to have way more gametime. Simple as that
 
Months ago, I said give Lindelof a run and he'd be a very good CB. Feel the same about Bailly - nothing will convince me that Jones and Smalling are better than him
 
He’s tough, not awful with the ball, and very athletic.

But at times he’s utter brainless. I don’t think he can be trusted. Maybe if we had a Rio, an experienced head to talk him through games, but Smalling, Lindelof or Jones aren’t that.

Phil Jones mk2.
 
Allas8 said:
United don't develop players then throw them aside, his only 25 years old and the fact that he started against PSG should show how high Solskjaer rates him. He got the correct mold as a CB, and as a reminder, Rio Ferdinand didn't start looking like a world class defender until he turned 25 either
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When he got hooked before half time? Great example.

Are you old enough to have lived through Rio Ferdinand’s development? I remember seeing him as a 17 year old, and it was plain to see he was an incredible talent. Bailly will never be World Class. Ferdinand was in the England team at 18 impressing at a World Cup aged 22. Where he held the British record transfer fee for a defender. He then captained Leeds to a CL 1/4 final, before being transferred to Utd for a world record fee.

Whether you or anyone thinks Rio was WC at a certain age, it was absoubtly clear he would be one of the world’s best defenders at an early age.

Bailly isint fit to lace his boots. If, and it’s a big if he sorts himself out, Bailly may become a solid centre back, but I have no doubt that he will never be anywhere near one of the best CB’s. The two players are incomparable.
 
Bwuk said:
He’s tough, not awful with the ball, and very athletic.

But at times he’s utter brainless. I don’t think he can be trusted. Maybe if we had a Rio, an experienced head to talk him through games, but Smalling, Lindelof or Jones aren’t that.

Phil Jones mk2.
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Thats a bit harsh on Jones, but at the same time Jones is slightly older so its not the end of the world that hes better.
 
This is terrifying.

Please let him have one of his good days
 
VeevaVee said:
Him and Lindelof should be good together, that's if Bailly was as good as he was meant to be. Get shut before we have another pointless bit part player around for 10 years.
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We shall see today against Chelsea.
 
He’s either having a worldie, or he’s scoring an own goal or making a mistake. There’s no in between with Eric
 
This is the problem with too many of our centre backs . They just cant last 90 mins without getting injured and you waste a sub on them every time they play
 
We have three centre-backs (Rojo, Jones and Bailly) who make outrageously dangerous tackles. It's quite impressive we've collected so many of them.
 
And there comes an injury for him. Doesn't look good. Hope he recovers soon.
 
Bailly brings injuries upon himself by continuously over committing and throwing himself into challenges too aggressively!
 
What a shame, we actually looked better with him than Smalling or Jones the last 8 or so games.
 
He'll be impossible to shift now as that looked a ligament injury
 
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